Kirby Jackson Posted September 3, 2015 Author Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) The exception that proves the ruleHa ha, it was sarcasm. People always complain that "we let all of our good players go" and almost all of the guys that go, get worse. Marshawn is the exception (and there were other reasons that he left) Byrd is the rule. Edited September 3, 2015 by Kirby Jackson
plenzmd1 Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 Ha ha, it was sarcasm. People always complain that "we let all of our good players go" and almost all of the guys that go, get worse. Marshawn is the exception (and there were other reasons that he left) Byrd is the rule. Antoine and Fat Pat may argue with this.
Gordio Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 Remember how bent out of shape everyone was when the Bills didn't re-sign him? Not everybody, go back & look at those old threads. Some people were saying it was a good move by the bills.
Homey D. Clown Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 I figured that you guys would be interested in following this saga here: http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/new-orleans-saints/is-jarius-byrd-medically-cleared-but-refusing-to-play/58516826/ I was not surprised too much that, when he left the team, the Bills defense improved. While he made some great plays at times, I think he was never quite the talent everyone made him out to be.
Gugny Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 I was not surprised too much that, when he left the team, the Bills defense improved. While he made some great plays at times, I think he was never quite the talent everyone made him out to be. Same exact thing can be said (and be accurate) about Alonso. The Whaley criticisms are ridiculous.
TSOL Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 I was not surprised too much that, when he left the team, the Bills defense improved. While he made some great plays at times, I think he was never quite the talent everyone made him out to be. Looking back, he was a smart and talented player, but kind of a "me first" player. Always looking for the big int, but was never a big hitter or anything awesome like that. Here as a Bill though, the guy sure could jump a route.
Rob's House Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 Same exact thing can be said (and be accurate) about Alonso. The Whaley criticisms are ridiculous. Both were a liability against the run.
Kirby Jackson Posted September 3, 2015 Author Posted September 3, 2015 Antoine and Fat Pat may argue with this. Again, you can include London Fletcher as well. Go back to the start of free agency and look at every guy that the Bills let go and tell me what percentage were better on their next team? Pat and Fletcher were more cap casualties as the elected to pay Schobel of the 3. I will bet that no more than 20% were better at their next stop and if you were to take out guys cut strictly for cap reasons the number is about half of that. Somehow the narrative on here is that the Bills let every good player go. In fact, someone on here a month ago said that they let 99% of their good players go. The reality is the Bills have probably been right about 4 out 5. I was not surprised too much that, when he left the team, the Bills defense improved. While he made some great plays at times, I think he was never quite the talent everyone made him out to be. Agreed, he was a ballhawk but could not support the run and was soft. He had some ability but not a lot of heart.
Canadian Bills Fan Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 I just read an article about Byrd and it also mentioned that Spiller has yet to play in a preseason game and hasnt practiced in weeks I did not know that CBF
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 Both were a liability against the run. I didn't remember that of Byrd... Thought he played run and pursuit angles pretty well. Maybe he didn't come down quickly, but do free safeties normally?
billsfan89 Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 The Bills ended up making the right call on Byrd. Good thing they are not saddled with that contract for a player that got hurt year 1 in a big contract and might be retiring year 2.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 I just read an article about Byrd and it also mentioned that Spiller has yet to play in a preseason game and hasnt practiced in weeks I did not know that CBF I think spiller is a guy you keep on the shelf until game day. He doesn't run too many fancy plays or pick up blitzes. You either sweep left, sweep right or toss a swing/screen. In all cases you just want him to run downfield as fast as he can.
Saxum Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 Remember how bent out of shape everyone was when the Bills didn't re-sign him? No. Many were against the signing with some saying the Bills should do everything they can to put him on PUP list and do what they can to prevent him from acquiring year of service. I just remember you not knowing what the word everyone means. I can't understand why some Bills fans feel the need to bash Byrd. He played well for us. Whaley obviously made the right call in not re-signing him. It's a business and he's looking out for his own well being. No he didn't for a part of his career; he objected to being tagged and then basically did not play his final year. If he did not like the contract the NFLPA negotiated he should have taken NFLPA to court and get compensation there rather than sitting out.
NoSaint Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 I'll take my medicine here and say I was pro Byrd- tearing a meniscus is a real injury here but if he's medically cleared and not playing its not ok.
boyst Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 I was pro byrd, too. I'll take my medicine here and say I was pro Byrd- tearing a meniscus is a real injury here but if he's medically cleared and not playing its not ok. A miniscus doesn't take 11+ months to heal.
LB3 Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 No. Many were against the signing with some saying the Bills should do everything they can to put him on PUP list and do what they can to prevent him from acquiring year of service. I just remember you not knowing what the word everyone means. No he didn't for a part of his career; he objected to being tagged and then basically did not play his final year. If he did not like the contract the NFLPA negotiated he should have taken NFLPA to court and get compensation there rather than sitting out. He played in 11 games his final year here IIRC.
TSOL Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 I was pro Byrd as well. He was a flashy player that made the opposing teams QB nervous.
NoSaint Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) I was pro byrd, too. A miniscus doesn't take 11+ months to heal. oh i know, unless there were some crazy complications. but it doesnt seem the case. i wont knock him for missed time last year. this year though -- if its all mental, its a big issue. Edited September 3, 2015 by NoSaint
Webster Guy Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 That dude won the lottery his rookie year with all those tipped passes falling into his hands, some of them skill related but the other half dumb luck as evidenced by the rest of his career after that lucky first year. Sucks for the Saints. They now have CJ and Byrd and all of their ailments. I'm praying CJ gets healthy this season and gives them their money's worth, they're great fans and Spiller is a great dude.
Gugny Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 That dude won the lottery his rookie year with all those tipped passes falling into his hands, some of them skill related but the other half dumb luck as evidenced by the rest of his career after that lucky first year. Sucks for the Saints. They now have CJ and Byrd and all of their ailments. I'm praying CJ gets healthy this season and gives them their money's worth, they're great fans and Spiller is a great dude. Well said. I couldn't agree more.
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