Maddog69 Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 I'd be shocked. We gave up a 5th and a 7th in a trade for him. Maybe a trade to get something, even a 7th back. But with no veteran on team, it just wouldn't make sense. Technically Tyrod is a veteran. Hes been in the league 5 years. And EJ is going into his 3rd.
Fan in Chicago Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 That kind of thinking gets you in trouble. You can't make the right move because (insert reason here.) They traded for Cassel to make sure they had a contingency plan. Plans change. Sure plans change. But given our past history with disasters at the QB position, I would at least be assured of a firm floor and hence err on the side of having one too many QBs. Simms doesn't give that vet presence and no I don't think TT or EJ are 'vet' enough.
Jamie Nails Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 Why not trade Cassell on friday to the sea chickens along with a 4Th. rounder for #22? Because this isn't madden and there are salary implications. Pick them up after they are cut and they come cheaper and without compensation to former team.
Fan in Chicago Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 agreed - i just meant in the keep 2 instead of 3 sense. if EJ played his way firmly into the second slot its crazy to keep cassell, regardless of whether you count simms on the PS as "3" I disagree. I think we need insurance on the insurance simply to protect against any double disasters.
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 Not sure why anyone is really worried about the Pats* signing Cassel. I doubt he'd start over Garappolo and then Marcia comes back. I'm not sure "picking his brain" is worth the asking price for NE*. I'll just drop this thought here, as it has no other real place. It was gratifying to see EJ respond to not getting the starting gig the way he has---and the way I expected him to: Professional and Hopeful. It's odd to think many wanted the Bills to get Ryan Mallet--who still has done nothing in the NFL and looks to be, in most ways, worse than EJ. Mallet responded to being passed over for the #2 slot by complaining publicly, then "oversleeping" and missing practice the next day. I'd be mighty mad if that QB was still on a team I rooted for. Nice call. LOL Marcia
Fan in Chicago Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 My take as well. E.J. is still developing whereas Cassel is a finished product (pun intended)... Nice !
PromoTheRobot Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 This applies to Brandon, Whaley, and Rex equally. And I'm totally fine with it. The local media, however, can't stand it. If this really happens and the Bills cut Cassel I can't wait to troll poor old Vic Carucci -- he was banking his reputation on Cassel as the starter. Same playing time as Roethlisberger, and practice.
Kelly the Dog Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 This applies to Brandon, Whaley, and Rex equally. And I'm totally fine with it. The local media, however, can't stand it. If this really happens and the Bills cut Cassel I can't wait to troll poor old Vic Carucci -- he was banking his reputation on Cassel as the starter. Yep. Although I think all three guys are different. I don't believe a word Brandon says as gospel but I believe he is great at his job. I believe most of what Whaley says but he is often very diplomatic and won't say the truth... But won't say things that aren't true very much either. I think Rex just loves to talk and give his opinions and doesn't care if he is wrong sometimes.
PromoTheRobot Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 Sure plans change. But given our past history with disasters at the QB position, I would at least be assured of a firm floor and hence err on the side of having one too many QBs. Simms doesn't give that vet presence and no I don't think TT or EJ are 'vet' enough.I'm sure Whaley still has Orton on speed dial.
NoSaint Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 I disagree. I think we need insurance on the insurance simply to protect against any double disasters. why dont we go after $5m players that would require 2 injuries to take even a single rep at every position? It simply makes no sense. As has been discussed many a time, we are a roster that will have high paid cornerstone players, and cycle out overpaid mid tier vets whenever possible. cassell is the textbook of that if hes #3.
YoloinOhio Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 @ChrisTrapasso: #Bills will likely have plenty of room for big re-signings ahead. FJax then Cassel/Harvin/Leo/Lawson/Urbik would free $25.6M on '16 cap.
LeGOATski Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 @ChrisTrapasso: #Bills will likely have plenty of room for big re-signings ahead. FJax then Cassel/Harvin/Leo/Lawson/Urbik would free $25.6M on '16 cap. Chris Trapasso needs to chill out.
John from Riverside Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 That kind of thinking gets you in trouble. You can't make the right move because (insert reason here.) They traded for Cassel to make sure they had a contingency plan. Plans change. Thats right NOBODY expected EJ Manuel to look this good
stony Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 It's a bold strategy, let's see if it pays off for them.
Dr. Who Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 I'll just drop this thought here, as it has no other real place. It was gratifying to see EJ respond to not getting the starting gig the way he has---and the way I expected him to: Professional and Hopeful. It's odd to think many wanted the Bills to get Ryan Mallet--who still has done nothing in the NFL and looks to be, in most ways, worse than EJ. Mallet responded to being passed over for the #2 slot by complaining publicly, then "oversleeping" and missing practice the next day. I'd be mighty mad if that QB was still on a team I rooted for. EJ had nothing to do with when he was drafted. (I was okay with the pick, btw.) All he has done is work hard and now we discover with competent coaching an improved qb. He responded with grace to the Tyrod choice and the kind of commitment to renewed effort that is admirable. And yet some refuse to credit his improved play and hint that he is not the best choice to keep if we are only keeping 2 qbs. I surmise and hope that OBD is not as foolish and intransigent as those who continue to badmouth or snidely dismiss EJ.
Maddog69 Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 @ChrisTrapasso: #Bills will likely have plenty of room for big re-signings ahead. FJax then Cassel/Harvin/Leo/Lawson/Urbik would free $25.6M on '16 cap. @ChrisTrapasso: #Bills will likely have plenty of room for big re-signings ahead. FJax then Cassel/Harvin/Leo/Lawson/Urbik would free $25.6M on '16 cap. I think he meant that those contracts would likely be off the books heading into 2016. I don't think he expects them all to be cut/traded now.
Fan in Chicago Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 why dont we go after $5m players that would require 2 injuries to take even a single rep at every position? It simply makes no sense. As has been discussed many a time, we are a roster that will have high paid cornerstone players, and cycle out overpaid mid tier vets whenever possible. cassell is the textbook of that if hes #3. I agree with that philosophy for other positions on the team. I am advocating extra insurance as both TT and EJ don't have a large enough body of in-game experience.
YoloinOhio Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) By Leo does he mean Leodis? I was under the impression McKelvin had another couple years on his contract. yes. I think he means he would be cut after the season along with the others who wouldn't be re-signed. Replaced with drafted players. Edited September 1, 2015 by YoloinOhio
Mr. WEO Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 Rex said 3 QB's...TT, EJ, and Simms...It really wouldn't surprise me either way. I think he meant Geno, Vick and Tebow...
Wraith Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 I think he meant that those contracts would likely be off the books heading into 2016. I don't think he expects them all to be cut/traded now. Yup. Still an odd statement because a few of them are likely to be valuable contributors who the Bills would like to resign (I'm thinking Harvin and Lawson, for example).
Recommended Posts