Kelly the Dog Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 Still going with the passing play...... Bold. Marrone would be thinking, "They'll never expect it! Throw it!"
Best Player Available Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 fred taking physical according toRapport. he calls Lynch/Fred possibly the best 1-2 punch in the NFL.
dave mcbride Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) Do you understand that virtually no one thinks differently? I think everyone agrees with that. That doesn't mean there isn't a time when he is no longer effective and worth a roster spot considering 20 different factors. It's debatable whether that time has arrived or not.I mostly root for laundry, but there are a few players that I have grown to like and root for (I assume most nfl players are borderline sociopaths and wouldn't want to know them). Fred is one of the few, and it takes a tin ear to think that cutting him can be pawned off as "part of the biz" of football. He is beloved in Buffalo, far more than Thomas, Reed, and Smith were when they were cut (none of whom were lovable). Also, the Bills didn't have to do it. He is likely still a better player than both Dixon (who had a significant injury, btw!) and the guy the head coach dogged publicly all spring (Brown). Basically, I see no downside to keeping him. None. Throw the fans a bone, for chrissake. The Bills weren't going to lose more games with Jackson on the roster, and they aren't going to win more with Dixon and/or Brown. It's done, of course, and it's time to move on. But it was a stupid move. The apologists for the brain trust will surely rationalize away, but I have little interest in their views on this issue. Edited September 1, 2015 by dave mcbride
Rob's House Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 Do all you guys criticizing fans for being upset because Fred "wasn't that good" understand WHY people like him? They don't like him because he was born with Bo Jackson's ridiculous power/speed combo or Barry Sanders elusiveness. He wasn't an amazing athlete that dazzled fans with his talent. That wasn't the attraction. They love him because he's an everyman who made himself into a guy who competed with and won jobs from guys who were brought in to be better. To take his job. For years the Bills were infatuated with drafting RBs high in the draft. They kept brining in first round guys and Jackson kept sending them packing. How? Hard work, perseverance, determination. Every ounce of his being was put into making himself a better player than the high profile picks. He became a back who could, literally, do it all. He rounded out his game in a way that superstar guys rarely do. What Fred Jackson did transcends sports, he became a guy every human being could look at and admire because he's who we all aspire to be. He made himself the best he could possibly be. He couldn't compete with any of those guys athletically, but he did everything else in his power to hold onto his dream of being an NFL running back. If you don't admire a guy like Fred and root for him no matter the jersey then you're not a human being I'd care to know. What he said.
NoSaint Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) fred taking physical according toRapport. he calls Lynch/Fred possibly the best 1-2 punch in the NFL.To be fair, marshawn and you might be a top 10 pair. For Fred's sake this is where we hope he passes and doesn't have any lingering issues. Edited September 1, 2015 by NoSaint
Best Player Available Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 To be fair, marshawn and you might be a top 10 pair. For Fred's sake this is where we hope he passes and doesn't have any lingering issues. i was thinking top 3 pair, but won't argue here.
R2ITRich Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) Do all you guys criticizing fans for being upset because Fred "wasn't that good" understand WHY people like him? They don't like him because he was born with Bo Jackson's ridiculous power/speed combo or Barry Sanders elusiveness. He wasn't an amazing athlete that dazzled fans with his talent. That wasn't the attraction. They love him because he's an everyman who made himself into a guy who competed with and won jobs from guys who were brought in to be better. To take his job. For years the Bills were infatuated with drafting RBs high in the draft. They kept brining in first round guys and Jackson kept sending them packing. How? Hard work, perseverance, determination. Every ounce of his being was put into making himself a better player than the high profile picks. He became a back who could, literally, do it all. He rounded out his game in a way that superstar guys rarely do. What Fred Jackson did transcends sports, he became a guy every human being could look at and admire because he's who we all aspire to be. He made himself the best he could possibly be. He couldn't compete with any of those guys athletically, but he did everything else in his power to hold onto his dream of being an NFL running back. If you don't admire a guy like Fred and root for him no matter the jersey then you're not a human being I'd care to know. Most intelligent response I've read in a long time in this Bills Forum. Thank You. Edited September 1, 2015 by R2ITRich
CSBill Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) Couldn't agree more. The reaction to him getting cut is absolutely ridiculous. 34 year old back with one one thousand yard season and no playoff appearances in ten years. Not to mention all the good things that have happened this offseason alone like hiring Rex and probably more importantly getting Roman. Getting Shady and Charles Clay. Fixing the miserable guard situation. Getting QB play that has exceeded expectations by far. Having an offensive line coach who actually knows how to teach guys to block not to mention an owner who will spend any amount to give this team the resources its needs across the board to get a championship. Let's also not forget that we aren't part of the LA conversation as this team is going nowhere for the next fifty years. And I'm supposed to be pouting like a #@$%$# five year old cause Fred got cut. The glass isn't even half full for some of you. It's shattered and your on your way to the ER with a severed artery and about five minutes to live. Get a friggin grip. said the 13 post "fan" Do all you guys criticizing fans for being upset because Fred "wasn't that good" understand WHY people like him? They don't like him because he was born with Bo Jackson's ridiculous power/speed combo or Barry Sanders elusiveness. He wasn't an amazing athlete that dazzled fans with his talent. That wasn't the attraction. They love him because he's an everyman who made himself into a guy who competed with and won jobs from guys who were brought in to be better. To take his job. For years the Bills were infatuated with drafting RBs high in the draft. They kept brining in first round guys and Jackson kept sending them packing. How? Hard work, perseverance, determination. Every ounce of his being was put into making himself a better player than the high profile picks. He became a back who could, literally, do it all. He rounded out his game in a way that superstar guys rarely do. What Fred Jackson did transcends sports, he became a guy every human being could look at and admire because he's who we all aspire to be. He made himself the best he could possibly be. He couldn't compete with any of those guys athletically, but he did everything else in his power to hold onto his dream of being an NFL running back. If you don't admire a guy like Fred and root for him no matter the jersey then you're not a human being I'd care to know. this! Edited September 1, 2015 by CSBill
Haslett_Stomp Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 Do all you guys criticizing fans for being upset because Fred "wasn't that good" understand WHY people like him? They don't like him because he was born with Bo Jackson's ridiculous power/speed combo or Barry Sanders elusiveness. He wasn't an amazing athlete that dazzled fans with his talent. That wasn't the attraction. They love him because he's an everyman who made himself into a guy who competed with and won jobs from guys who were brought in to be better. To take his job. For years the Bills were infatuated with drafting RBs high in the draft. They kept brining in first round guys and Jackson kept sending them packing. How? Hard work, perseverance, determination. Every ounce of his being was put into making himself a better player than the high profile picks. He became a back who could, literally, do it all. He rounded out his game in a way that superstar guys rarely do. What Fred Jackson did transcends sports, he became a guy every human being could look at and admire because he's who we all aspire to be. He made himself the best he could possibly be. He couldn't compete with any of those guys athletically, but he did everything else in his power to hold onto his dream of being an NFL running back. If you don't admire a guy like Fred and root for him no matter the jersey then you're not a human being I'd care to know. Amen brother, well said indeed.
YoloinOhio Posted September 2, 2015 Author Posted September 2, 2015 Marrone would be thinking, "They'll never expect it! Throw it!"sadly yes
Kelly the Dog Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 I mostly root for laundry, but there are a few players that I have grown to like and root for (I assume most nfl players are borderline sociopaths and wouldn't want to know them). Fred is one of the few, and it takes a tin ear to think that cutting him can be pawned off as "part of the biz" of football. He is beloved in Buffalo, far more than Thomas, Reed, and Smith were when they were cut (none of whom were lovable). Also, the Bills didn't have to do it. He is likely still a better player than both Dixon (who had a significant injury, btw!) and the guy the head coach dogged publicly all spring (Brown). Basically, I see no downside to keeping him. None. Throw the fans a bone, for chrissake. The Bills weren't going to lose more games with Jackson on the roster, and they aren't going to win more with Dixon and/or Brown. It's done, of course, and it's time to move on. But it was a stupid move. The apologists for the brain trust will surely rationalize away, but I have little interest in their views on this issue. I understand all that and agree, but that is not what we were talking about here. I was saying that even the people who are saying he wasn't any good anymore or who needs him or he was the fifth best guy we have ALL still also agree that he is a great guy and tremendous story and great ambassador for the Bills.
MDH Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 I mostly root for laundry, but there are a few players that I have grown to like and root for (I assume most nfl players are borderline sociopaths and wouldn't want to know them). Fred is one of the few, and it takes a tin ear to think that cutting him can be pawned off as "part of the biz" of football. He is beloved in Buffalo, far more than Thomas, Reed, and Smith were when they were cut (none of whom were lovable). Also, the Bills didn't have to do it. He is likely still a better player than both Dixon (who had a significant injury, btw!) and the guy the head coach dogged publicly all spring (Brown). Basically, I see no downside to keeping him. None. Throw the fans a bone, for chrissake. The Bills weren't going to lose more games with Jackson on the roster, and they aren't going to win more with Dixon and/or Brown. It's done, of course, and it's time to move on. But it was a stupid move. The apologists for the brain trust will surely rationalize away, but I have little interest in their views on this issue.
blzrul Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 The word from Seattle (as of this moment....sports news hasn't come on yet)...Pete Carroll still insisting it's a visit, not a signing. They have salary cap issues, and I wonder what they'll offer Fred, IF they make an offer. And interestingly enough, or perhaps not, the Seahawk fan base isn't particularly excited - of course most of them are so new to football they never heard of Fred before today and don't know Lynch came here from Buffalo. So it's not a done deal. I hate the Seahawks and root for them to lose, it would be hard if Fred were part of the team.
YoloinOhio Posted September 2, 2015 Author Posted September 2, 2015 fred taking physical according toRapport. he calls Lynch/Fred possibly the best 1-2 punch in the NFL.still gotta go with Murray/Mathews (Sproles)
yungmack Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 Hitler learns of Fred being cut. (Captioning NSFW - language) http://captiongenerator.com/57177/Hitler-Finds-Out-The-Bills-Cut-Fred-Jackson I never thought I'd say this but...I agree with Hitler.
Ouijaman Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 Do all you guys criticizing fans for being upset because Fred "wasn't that good" understand WHY people like him? They don't like him because he was born with Bo Jackson's ridiculous power/speed combo or Barry Sanders elusiveness. He wasn't an amazing athlete that dazzled fans with his talent. That wasn't the attraction. They love him because he's an everyman who made himself into a guy who competed with and won jobs from guys who were brought in to be better. To take his job. For years the Bills were infatuated with drafting RBs high in the draft. They kept brining in first round guys and Jackson kept sending them packing. How? Hard work, perseverance, determination. Every ounce of his being was put into making himself a better player than the high profile picks. He became a back who could, literally, do it all. He rounded out his game in a way that superstar guys rarely do. What Fred Jackson did transcends sports, he became a guy every human being could look at and admire because he's who we all aspire to be. He made himself the best he could possibly be. He couldn't compete with any of those guys athletically, but he did everything else in his power to hold onto his dream of being an NFL running back. If you don't admire a guy like Fred and root for him no matter the jersey then you're not a human being I'd care to know. Eloquently put. Thank you.
BADOLBILZ Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 Do all you guys criticizing fans for being upset because Fred "wasn't that good" understand WHY people like him? They don't like him because he was born with Bo Jackson's ridiculous power/speed combo or Barry Sanders elusiveness. He wasn't an amazing athlete that dazzled fans with his talent. That wasn't the attraction. They love him because he's an everyman who made himself into a guy who competed with and won jobs from guys who were brought in to be better. To take his job. For years the Bills were infatuated with drafting RBs high in the draft. They kept brining in first round guys and Jackson kept sending them packing. How? Hard work, perseverance, determination. Every ounce of his being was put into making himself a better player than the high profile picks. He became a back who could, literally, do it all. He rounded out his game in a way that superstar guys rarely do. What Fred Jackson did transcends sports, he became a guy every human being could look at and admire because he's who we all aspire to be. He made himself the best he could possibly be. He couldn't compete with any of those guys athletically, but he did everything else in his power to hold onto his dream of being an NFL running back. If you don't admire a guy like Fred and root for him no matter the jersey then you're not a human being I'd care to know. Eloquence! I mostly root for laundry, but there are a few players that I have grown to like and root for (I assume most nfl players are borderline sociopaths and wouldn't want to know them). Fred is one of the few, and it takes a tin ear to think that cutting him can be pawned off as "part of the biz" of football. He is beloved in Buffalo, far more than Thomas, Reed, and Smith were when they were cut (none of whom were lovable). Also, the Bills didn't have to do it. He is likely still a better player than both Dixon (who had a significant injury, btw!) and the guy the head coach dogged publicly all spring (Brown). Basically, I see no downside to keeping him. None. Throw the fans a bone, for chrissake. The Bills weren't going to lose more games with Jackson on the roster, and they aren't going to win more with Dixon and/or Brown. It's done, of course, and it's time to move on. But it was a stupid move. The apologists for the brain trust will surely rationalize away, but I have little interest in their views on this issue. YES! Couple of fantastic takes on Fred from dave and MDH Don't become Fredderall! Hate the Seahawks.
Matt in KC Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 Do all you guys criticizing fans for being upset because Fred "wasn't that good" understand WHY people like him? They don't like him because he was born with Bo Jackson's ridiculous power/speed combo or Barry Sanders elusiveness. He wasn't an amazing athlete that dazzled fans with his talent. That wasn't the attraction. They love him because he's an everyman who made himself into a guy who competed with and won jobs from guys who were brought in to be better. To take his job. For years the Bills were infatuated with drafting RBs high in the draft. They kept brining in first round guys and Jackson kept sending them packing. How? Hard work, perseverance, determination. Every ounce of his being was put into making himself a better player than the high profile picks. He became a back who could, literally, do it all. He rounded out his game in a way that superstar guys rarely do. What Fred Jackson did transcends sports, he became a guy every human being could look at and admire because he's who we all aspire to be. He made himself the best he could possibly be. He couldn't compete with any of those guys athletically, but he did everything else in his power to hold onto his dream of being an NFL running back. If you don't admire a guy like Fred and root for him no matter the jersey then you're not a human being I'd care to know. I'm with you. Well put!I never thought I'd say this but...I agree with Hitler.Me too.
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 fred taking physical according toRapport. he calls Lynch/Fred possibly the best 1-2 punch in the NFL. Well to be fair they had to invest a fourth round draft pick to end up with those two.
streetcarp77 Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 I get it. Almost every Bills fan loved Fred. He was one of my favorites through a decade of yuck. But the bleeding hearts already...stop. Nobody is bigger than what's best for the team. Some have said they hope he wins the SB this year if he goes to Seattle? Why? I wish him well, but I'm always for the Buffalo Bills to win. For the fans, for the region, for the team. Good luck Fred. Thanks for your efforts. Now let's go Buffalo!! We want the Superbowl!
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