"If we rescued the banks, we can save refugees" Merkel

[B-Man]

Once again gentlemen ........................it is calm and satisfying over here in the "no direct response to children like Gator" zone.

 

I have not asked him a question or responded to his drivel since November 2013.....................I know that you guys like playing with him, but seriously its not worth the effort.

 

 

Like you, I will laugh and comment on his replies, but ask him a question, or for an explanation of his tripe..................Lord no.

 

 

 

 

 

Now ..............back to the thread..........This "harsh rhetoric is sure to get out the "fainting couches" for our Lefties.

 

 

Let us stop pretending that the Iraq War was the Worst Thing Ever................Well, defining 'us' as 'some of YOU,' of course.

by Moe Lane

 

 

This is a pet peeve of mine, and it got triggered by this otherwise not-as-bad-as-it-could-have been article on Obama’s Syria debacle (the NYT prefers the term ‘nightmare’):

American interventionism can have terrible consequences, as the Iraq war has demonstrated. But American non-interventionism can be equally devastating, as Syria illustrates.

Stop. Freeze-frame. Rewind. Look at those two sentences. Also look at that word ‘equally,’ which means that the author of this piece wants his readers to conclude that there are two separate military situations here, each one of which was, well, equally disastrous.

 

But that’s not even remotely true. We have one situation here. To wit: from 2001 to 2003 the United States did some long overdue corrective actions in the Middle East. First, we went into Afghanistan and broke the neck of the regime that hosted the group that attacked us on 9/11. Then we went into Iraq and broke the neck of the regime that had been an active danger to the entire region for the previous two, three decades – and that we had unfinished business with, too. Kind of important, that. After all of that we had an insurgency develop – which is something that happens when you occupy nation-states – and then we proceeded to beat that insurgency without resorting to the usual rule of slaughtering the population*.

 

In short, we had a rather unremarkable brush war. People didn’t want to say things like that at the time, because while it was still going on there were plenty of raw nerves going around because of the casualty lists. Which is something that the antiwar movement took full, and quite malignant, advantage of; but contrary to modern sensibilities you can’t always change something by changing its name. The truth of it is, under George W Bush we won the wars. And under Barack Obama we deliberately lost them again. Letting Syria disintegrate was a conscious choice. Letting Libya disintegrate was a conscious choice. Letting Islamic State put together a proto-Dark Empire** from the ruins was a conscious choice. Rewarding the Iranians for supporting terrorism in Iraq was a conscious choice. Deciding that the Kurds didn’t need our support was a conscious choice. All of these things were deliberately done, and I will leave it up to history to decide if they were done through malice, incompetence, or a devil’s mixture of the two.

 

But again: let us stop pretending that what happened today is equally as bad as what happened between 2001 and 2009 – or, or that matter, that it is separate from what happened then. No. What’s happened since then is worse, and it all happened because the people running this country are incompetent at waging wars. I know that saying this will upset people; which is a shame, because apparently poison gas attacks against civilian targets apparently don’t.

 

http://www.redstate.com/2015/09/11/iraq-afghanistan-syria-debacle-barack-obama-george-w-bush/

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited September 12, 2015 by B-Man

[Chef Jim]

Oh cute, look at all the less than half wits getting together to attack me! Lol, you three are are pathetic little nimrods. I apologize for cutting you clowns down to size time and again. It's just so easy!

 

Wow, great one! You go and get started on a constitutional amendment for us so you feel ok with using paper money, because you actually think it's illegal now. What an idiot you are.

 

Hey kiddo...why so angry?? So what Sally won't go with you to the harvest ball. Buck up. There are more fish in the sea.

[/dev/null]

That's just not true. You are a complete clown. A worthless poster

[B-Man]

http://pllqt.it/fwyXQx

 

 

So the first modern experiment with open borders by an industrialized nation lasted....10 days or so.

 

 

The New York Times

Germany Orders Curbs at Border in Migrant Crisis

The move was seen as a strong sign that Germany was growing weary of shouldering so much of the burden for Europe’s largest humanitarian crisis in decades.

 

 

 

Denmark Says No: Will Not Take Any More Middle Eastern Refugees: http://trib.al/SNOLHsq

 

 

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[Ozymandius]

[DC Tom]

 

Funny...but stupid.

[LeviF]

http://pllqt.it/fwyXQx

 

 

So the first modern experiment with open borders by an industrialized nation lasted....10 days or so.

 

 

The New York Times

Germany Orders Curbs at Border in Migrant Crisis

The move was seen as a strong sign that Germany was growing weary of shouldering so much of the burden for Europe’s largest humanitarian crisis in decades.

 

 

 

Denmark Says No: Will Not Take Any More Middle Eastern Refugees: http://trib.al/SNOLHsq

 

 

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It's too late. Europe doesn't have the stones to let "refugees" sit in the no-man's-land between Serbia and Hungary in the winter. Back to square one and Merkel will shove her head back up her ass after this brief extraction.

 

On a lighter note: who would have guessed that Hungarians would be the last rational actors in Europe?

[ALF]

Syrian President Bashar Assad on Wednesday blamed Europe for the crisis, saying it's a direct result of the West's support for extremists in Syria over the past four years.

In an interview with Russian media, Assad accused Europe of supporting "terrorism" and providing "protection for terrorists, calling them moderates."

http://www.aol.com/article/2015/09/16/hungary-asks-serbia-to-crack-down-on-migrants-attacking-hungaria/21236844/

Destroying a country to save it still does not work. ( Syria )

Edited September 16, 2015 by ALF

[Dante]

 

Syrian President Bashar Assad on Wednesday blamed Europe for the crisis, saying it's a direct result of the West's support for extremists in Syria over the past four years.

In an interview with Russian media, Assad accused Europe of supporting "terrorism" and providing "protection for terrorists, calling them moderates."

http://www.aol.com/article/2015/09/16/hungary-asks-serbia-to-crack-down-on-migrants-attacking-hungaria/21236844/

Destroying a country to save it still does not work. ( Syria )

 

Assad is dead on.

[B-Man]

UNEXPECTEDLY!............................ Cascading Border Closures Rock Europe.

 

 

 

FROM “LET THEM IN” TO “GOOD FENCES MAKE GOOD NEIGHBORS” IN RECORD TIME:

 

E.U. nations pull welcome mats for migrants, imposing new restrictions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Croatian buses deposit hundreds of migrants at the Hungarian border

http://bit.ly/1iUGa74

Edited September 18, 2015 by B-Man

[IDBillzFan]

UNEXPECTEDLY!............................ Cascading Border Closures Rock Europe.

 

The world sure looks a lot messier when the US leads from behind.

[Chef Jim]

 

The world sure looks a lot messier when the US leads from behind.

 

Actually that whole "we should be more like Europe" thing is starting to make sense.

[B-Man]

Visit Munich Oktoberfest, while you still can ...........Calls to ban “intolerant and anti-Islamic” festival

[TakeYouToTasker]

Visit Munich Oktoberfest, while you still can ...........Calls to ban intolerant and anti-Islamic festival

Fake.

[Chef Jim]

Visit Munich Oktoberfest, while you still can ...........Calls to ban “intolerant and anti-Islamic” festival

 

Well according to the comments section the online petition was a joke.

[B-Man]

Fake.

 

good catch. TYTT

 

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[Chef Jim]

Fake.

 

However this appears to be real.

 

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Trains-carrying-migrants-may-avoid-Oktoberfest-6513940.php

[IDBillzFan]

Fake.

 

Yet, still, remarkably, believable.

 

You know most SoProgs are standing around thinking, "Y'know, I know the story was fake, but they have a point."

[Chef Jim]

 

Yet, still, remarkably, believable.

 

You know most SoProgs are standing around thinking, "Y'know, I know the story was fake, but they have a point."

 

That's why the "fake" petition had 500 signatures before it was taken down.

[/dev/null]

 

Well according to the comments section the online petition was a joke.

 

My favorite from the comment section

 

Ragspierre | September 18, 2015 at 10:43 am

 

In Texas, we celebrate Oktoberfest in many places.

 

And we carry guns. “Ja, ja, ja, ja…”