Uffalo Ills Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 We will miss you Freddy. FredEx always delivers
Gugny Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 That is BS....that is total friggen BS I'm sorry you disagree. But backup QBs who've never been part of a Bills team that's gone to the post-season don't scream "Wall of Fame," to me. I love Fred as much as everyone else. But come on.
Charles Romes Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 Fred had many strengths still at an advanced age. But he was not going to play 16 games. Also, for how good he was at finding the tiny hole one first and second down he was never that great on shirts yardage 3rd and 4th down. Never could figure that one out.
eball Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 I was thinking 3rd down situations from a pass catching standpoint, and in all honesty he is still probably the best on the team in that aspect. Best pass blocking back aside from Shady, and probably comparable. Look back over the last five years, and the Bills have fielded some of the very worst offensive lines in the league. No RB on the Buffalo Bills was good in third and short over that time. Yet Freddy almost always found a hole when Lynch & Spiller could not. 6 RB's still on the roster, and I see only one even close to as good as Fred. Sorry, still don't get it Bryce Brown Boobie Dixon Bronson Hill LeSean McCoy Karlos Williams Cierre Wood Hill and Wood will play 60 minutes this Thursday night and then never be heard from again. The other four will be on the final 53 and one of them (Brown?) likely inactive on most gamedays unless somebody gets hurt.
bladiebla Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 Clearly? Did you see Karlos in that 1st game? The kid runs possessed...I don't think it's clear at all... The Bills are just loaded at RB and Freddie is the oldest...Can he still play? Absolutely...It's not like this was an easy decision for the Bills...But I doubt they thought Williams would look as good as he has...And Boobie is a ST's animal...Fred just got squeezed out...I hate it too...But I don't think it's going to make any difference on the field... Sure Williams has looked the deal. But he hasn't shown the other traits the Fred has. And Fred always makes a difference when on the field, don't you dare question that. I rather have one more year of Fred then 2 more years of Brown welll that trade certainly didn't work out let's just cut our losses.
K-9 Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 I think that he is a WOF player. If Phil Hansen is up there, Fred Jackson will be. Freddy is a lock. GO BILLS!!!
Bookie Man Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 !@#$ you Whaley, and !@#$ you Ryan. Can't wait to see Fred in a Cheats jersey, leading them to victory at the Ralph with Janeane at the helm. I see you support his family jewels, but seriously?
NoSaint Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 I think that he is a WOF player. If Phil Hansen is up there, Fred Jackson will be. i think hes exactly the type of guy that should be celebrated on the wall, personally. the type that arent going to get the national accolades of the HOF, but are all time great bills are my favorite to see there.
BuffaloBillsForever Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 this might literally be the best optics imaginable. they gave him a full shot to make the team, and let him go at first cuts when they felt he didnt. what more could you ask for? Where I disagree is I don't think he was ever going to make the team based on the speculation months and months ago.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 Fred can't play anymore. Any random RB off the street can perform better than him. I know most of you can't admit this to yourselves because you are too emotional and/or you aren't capable of evaluating football talent - but it's obvious. Wish him the best, though. This is just as much crap as the people who insist he's still the #2 back on this team despite the obvious fact that he's been cut because the coaches don't see it that way. No, "any random RB off the street" can't outperform Fred. However, given a hard choice between keeping a fast, talented young player and a talented player at the end of his career, if you're building for the long term success of the team, the decision is obvious.
thebandit27 Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 The "taking the playbook to NE" angle is way overplayed. Fred has as many offseasons in Roman's offense as an undrafted rookie will have in NE's.
A Dog Named Kelso Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 And this is how you tell who is a Bills' fan versus who is not. Thurman Thomas - released at 34 and signed with Miami Emmitt Smith - released at 34 and signed with Arizona Guys get released when they get old. It happens. Let's remember that Fred was an undrafted FA that worked his way from the world league to the practice squad, then onto a roster where he was productive for 10 years. Good for him. Let's also remember that he was never more than a solid, productive guy. We did not just release a HOFer. This move will very likely not mean the difference between the playoffs and not making them. Mostly, if this move makes you cheer for NE over the Bills, then go do it even if Fred doesn't sign there, because you aren't a Bills' fan. Yes, I mean it. They went on to start for other teams. No one is saying that Fred is the starter but he can be a solid contributor and would hardly be the reason the Bill's lose a game. If another team picks him up and he plays a good role there is no reason he couldn't do that on this team for another season.
Kelly the Dog Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 So I get why they released him, but I can't see why they kept him around in the offseason when they were thinking about releasing him. Oh wait... Any chance they wanted to wait to drop him until AFTER they hit the season ticket record??? How about after they got a chance to see if he could still run and not get hurt and see the other players they may keep if they don't keep him?
A Dog Named Kelso Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 I was thinking 3rd down situations from a pass catching standpoint, and in all honesty he is still probably the best on the team in that aspect. Best pass blocking back aside from Shady, and probably comparable. Look back over the last five years, and the Bills have fielded some of the very worst offensive lines in the league. No RB on the Buffalo Bills was good in third and short over that time. Yet Freddy almost always found a hole when Lynch & Spiller could not. 6 RB's still on the roster, and I see only one even close to as good as Fred. Sorry, still don't get it Bryce Brown Boobie Dixon Bronson Hill LeSean McCoy Karlos Williams Cierre Wood Best 53 man roster my A$$.
eball Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 Why does everyone automatically assume this was an ugly divorce and Fred will want to "stick it" to the Bills? If he was treated with respect and given a fair opportunity throughout TC (despite getting injured -- again) why would he want to share secrets or harbor ill will?
Freddie's Dead Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 No way is he WOF worthy Career Bills numbers for FJ, 3rd in rushing, 16th in receiving (2nd behind Thurman for RB's), 8th in TD's (4th for RB's). You're just wrong.
dave mcbride Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 (I posted this in the other thread too.) I just did a little work on Fred vs. the Pats. In his 14 games against them, he has been quite productive: 177 carries for 785 yards (4.43 ypc) 41 catches for 433 yards (10.56 ypc) 5 TDs Over a 16 game season, that translates into 897 rushing yards and 47 catches for 495 yards - 87 ypg (and 6 TDs). If you take away his 2007 season, in which had only 11 touches in two games, his yards per reception in the subsequent 12 games goes up to 11.16 (extraordinarily high for a RB), and his prorated rushing/receiving yards go up to 1008/551 over a 16 game season (97.4 yards from scrimmage per game). I'm guessing Belichick is aware of how well Fred has played against him. That said, he's not a sentimentalist.
Bookie Man Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 And I hate to be that guy but, who's the handcuff to McCoy? Brown or Williams?
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