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In looking at the link they provided of the full PFF top 10 Quarterback rankings I'm seeing far greater injustices than Tannehill ahead of Luck. Roethlisberger and Rivers ahead of Brady and Manning? I'd like to see how good big Ben would be without Antonio Brown.

 

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/08/27/ranking-the-nfls-top-10-qbs/

 

Uh...Ben won 2 Superbowls without Antonio Brown.

 

Brown was a 6th-round pick; I'd say there's a far greater argument that Ben makes Brown than vice versa.

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Uh...Ben won 2 Superbowls without Antonio Brown.

 

Brown was a 6th-round pick; I'd say there's a far greater argument that Ben makes Brown than vice versa.

Someone could also ask Mike Wallace about leaving Ben.

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Tannehill's voice is much better than Luck's. Listening to Andrew is like fingernails on a chalkboard. He sounds like he's constantly gargling. It's brutal.

 

 

But man that Luck can sure grow a beard

 

 

 

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Tannehill's voice is much better than Luck's. Listening to Andrew is like fingernails on a chalkboard. He sounds like he's constantly gargling. It's brutal.

He looks and sounds like he is the runt of a family of giants.

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This is so ridiculous and moot, that only ESPN could be behind it. Who has the better supporting cast. Who has a schedule of opponents that can more be taken advantage by the possessed talent and skill set. Whose skill set best fits what the team is trying to do?

 

ESPN tries to boil things down to the lowest common denominator for the pleabians that watch their shows

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Uh...Ben won 2 Superbowls without Antonio Brown.

 

Brown was a 6th-round pick; I'd say there's a far greater argument that Ben makes Brown than vice versa.

By this logic Eli should be top 5 as well. I think it's pretty clear the Steelers won those Superbowls mostly because of their defense.

 

And being a 6th round pick means Brown isn't great? Dude is a beast.

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Luck is already great but he is not flawless. He is a gifted runner. But he throws INT's. He is closer to Roethlisberger or even Jim Kelly than he is Rodgers, Brady, or Manning at this point.

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Luck is already great but he is not flawless. He is a gifted runner. But he throws INT's. He is closer to Roethlisberger or even Jim Kelly than he is Rodgers, Brady, or Manning at this point.

Guy's a force, doesn't let the mistakes bury him. One of the things that makes him special. What he's done in his first 3 years with that talent depleted roster is amazing. Give him Wallace like tannehill had and it would ha e been a much different story Edited by JTSP
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Guy's a force, doesn't let the mistakes bury him. One of the things that makes him special. What he's done in his first 3 years with that talent depleted roster is amazing. Give him Wallace like tannehill had and it would ha e been a much different story

 

TY Hilton's better than Wallace in my opinion.

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Another example of why advanced analytics doesn't work for football?

 

Yep. PFF's QB rating system is clearly flawed if it has Tannehill ahead of Luck.

 

I'm not a big fan of ESPN's QBR system either.

This is so ridiculous and moot, that only ESPN could be behind it. Who has the better supporting cast. Who has a schedule of opponents that can more be taken advantage by the possessed talent and skill set. Whose skill set best fits what the team is trying to do?

 

ESPN tries to boil things down to the lowest common denominator for the pleabians that watch their shows

 

I'm not sure why this misunderstanding continues. ESPN did NOT conclude Tannehill is better than Luck. James Walker of ESPN wrote an article commenting on PFF's ranking system which had Tannehill ahead of Luck. Walker disagreed with the ranking.

 

ESPN itself uses the QBR system which does indeed rank Luck ahead of Tannehill though not by much - 61.5 versus 58.0.

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr

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