RevWarRifleman Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/180108-warning-conspiracy-theory-read-at-your-own-risk-qbs/page-7 WHAT IF...indeed! I hope he blows the top off the place! Ham, the grassy knoll in Dallas, 1963. Was there a second assassin behind that fence? The whole free world wants to know. Boom! Grassy knoll? No, no I don't know anything about that...I swear! Yeh, that's what all you lousy G-men say.
Solomon Grundy Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 Schopp didn't like the Carolina game with EJ at QB in 2013. 293 yards and a game winning TD.
Bangarang Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 This was a shocking turn of events. I did not see this coming.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 Was waiting for someone to say it......LOL Not only Leroi.... It is difficult to keep up with the whole thread and I shilled about 15 pages... Where's Fire Chan ???
Mister Defense Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 Just got home and saw this. Wow. Really surprising. Looking forward to reading all about this and the reactions. Could the conspiracy theorists be right!? Nah, but extremely interesting....
Kelly the Dog Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 Schopp didn't like the Carolina game with EJ at QB in 2013. 293 yards and a game winning TD. Well, in Schopp's defense it was a good Bills win, so it doesn't fit his preferred narrative of bitching.
OhDozeBills Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 Everyone has a theory on the QB situation. My thought is they honestly still don't know who the starter will be. Tyrod has been a nice surprise, and while EJ hasn't been as consistent in OTA's a and practices, he's played well in preseason games and is the only QB with a TD (2). Cassel is who everyone thought he would be...consistently average with the most NFL experience. There's really a case to be made for all 3 QB's and I think the coaches are going back and forth with who they want as the starter. I do think EJ was the clear #3 until he lead the drive to win against CLE and now the coaches want to see what he can do with 1st team in a game. Is it possible that EJ is a better game player than in practice? I do think he has improved this year and whoever is our starter will be better than what we had last year because of GRo's system and added offensive weapons. The only other scenario I see is they have fielded calls from teams interested in trading for EJ and want to showcase him against a 1st team D. I'm not buying some of the things I've been hearing tho: 1. Rex wants to be true to his word that the QB competition will be fair and this makes him look good to the players and fans. 2. Rex doesn't want to rip his hand to Indy on who the starter will be week one and starting EJ will confuse things IMO, the competition is still going and EJ has shown enough where they want to give him a shot with the ones and see what he can do. I do like EJ, but from what I've seen out of Tyrod I would say he is my front runner...for now.
metzelaars_lives Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 (edited) Not only Leroi.... It is difficult to keep up with the whole thread and I shilled about 15 pages... Where's Fire Chan ??? I came back to check in and I'm a little disappointed in you. I thought you weren't doing victory laps. There is no need for anyone, including FireChan, to come on here and concede anything. For all we know, every QB is gonna play 2-3 series- all with the ones- and the order doesn't mean anything. Believe me, if somehow EJ Manuel starts against the Colts, you will have your day. This is not it. Edited August 27, 2015 by metzelaars_lives
Rubes Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 Man, if there's one thing you can say about this, it's really !@#$ed with a lot of people's heads. This is kinda fun.
CSBill Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 I think I have broken the code, explained in detail below. QB starters Scrimmage - EJ Carolina - Cassel Browns - Tyrod Pittsburgh - EJ . . . . . Lions - Cassel - - - - - Indianapolis - Tyrod this!
John from Riverside Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 Well, in Schopp's defense it was a good Bills win, so it doesn't fit his preferred narrative of bitching. You gotta love Schoop (well actually I dont but) His sliding scale of QB play is really interesting.......
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 I came back to check in and I'm a little disappointed in you. I thought you weren't doing victory laps. There is no need for anyone, including FireChan, to come on here and concede anything. For all we know, every QB is gonna play 2-3 series- all with the ones- and the order doesn't mean anything. Believe me, if somehow EJ Manuel starts against the Colts, you will have your day. This is not it. in 15 + posts in the past 2 hours you select the one I troll on.
metzelaars_lives Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 (edited) You already took a victory lap though. You lost it for a couple days. You might not have made a prediction about who will start, but you have 100% ruled EJ out already. This was from 2 days ago. That is a post from someone who thinks EJ has 0% chance. Rational people don't attack others just because they think differently. You called someone insane for thinking EJ is in the lead. It's not very likely, but insane? You're a better poster than this. I've already stated that was not a victory lap. That was merely my sarcastic reaction to everyone's overreaction to the first preseason in game in which he was OK. But yeah, I don't think it's happening for the guy. I'm on record as saying it's not happening so I'll own that. He's not starting week 1 unless he plays the game of his life and both Taylor and Cassel implode. You can take that to the bank. You really think that if they're all "meh" on Saturday that EJ will start week 1? Well that's what the dude implied by saying he's in the lead. That is not the case, I can assure you. He needs to step up. I hope he does, contrary to the opinion expressed in many posts in this thread that I am rooting against him or I will be upset if he does well, etc. I'm a Bills fan man. Just like you. I've been to at least one home Bills game every year since 1985 and I've lived in Denver for the last 13 years. My family had seasons from 86-95 and I went to every playoff game in that span. I haven't not watched a Bills game since- I have no idea, the mid 80's? I've been to over ten Bills road games. I've never rooted against one Bills player ever. I just want to win man. I promise. Edited August 27, 2015 by metzelaars_lives
Prickly Pete Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 (edited) Well, either you do or ya don't. Ya know, 50-50. Yeah, man. Like 25% of my gut tells me it's EJM, but then 35% of my gut says to me "no way, it's Cassel". And then outta nowhere, I get this feeling way deep down that says "hey man, get real...it's Tyrod". And get this, that feeling was 40%! Edited August 27, 2015 by HoF Watkins
vincec Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 Good move by Ryan. EJ has the most upside of the three if he can win the job so it doesn't make sense not to give him a chance to prove it with the ones. I think the QB that looks the best Saturday will be the starter. It's a dead even competition at this point, IMO.
The Wiz Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 Tyrod has a very strong arm. We shouldn't lump him in with MC in terms of arm strength.don't think he was comparing arms there. TT has a much better arm than Cassel.
Fadingpain Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 3 plays define his camp in entirety. Love it. No, those were just the 3 jewels in his crown of mediocrity. (Even if it was a hospitality tent the poster was referencing and not a "concession stand"). Well, he did look nice in that game winning drive against...players who will not be playing in the NFL in a few weeks. You know, like me. I bet EJ would complete a lot of passes on me too.
jeffismagic Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 Ham, the grassy knoll in Dallas, 1963. Was there a second assassin behind that fence? The whole free world wants to know. Yeh, that's what all you lousy G-men say. Bill Belichick was opening his umbrella on a sunny day.
John from Riverside Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 I dont see the need for anybody to be conceding right or wrong here We have NO idea what Rex Ryan's motives are in starting EJ the next game......it might mean something...it might mean he is trying to showcase him for a trade....it might mean that they are rethinking his 3rd string QB status Just dont know yet By the way...in the end IMO its still gonna be Tyrod Taylor
PolishDave Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 (edited) One thing that crossed my mind - when Rex said "Now nobody can say they didn't get a fair chance." Think about that. What does that say about what his mindset was about EJ when he made the decision to start him in this game? I have a feeling that EJ is going to have to "really impress" in order for it to change whatever fate Rex had in mind for him. Edited August 27, 2015 by PolishDave
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