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Anyone basing a QB argument on pre-season statistics should consider the following:

 

Link to the NFL passing stats: http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?seasonType=PRE&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=PASSING_PASSER_RATING&tabSeq=0&season=2015&Submit=Go&experience=&archive=false&statisticCategory=PASSING&conference=null&qualified=false

 

 

Stat#1: Here are your leaders in passing yardage so far this pre-season (EJ Manuel is #25)

 

 

Rk Player Team Pos Comp Att Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Int 1st 1st% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck Rate 1 Landry Jones PIT QB 49 97 50.5 32.3 500 5.2 166.7 3 2 23 23.7 54 7 1 6 67.4 2 Jimmy Garoppolo NE QB 48 63 76.2 31.5 428 6.8 214.0 1 2 25 39.7 24T 4 0 7 85.9 3 Ryan Nassib NYG QB 27 53 50.9 26.5 296 5.6 148.0 1 0 15 28.3 28 3 0 1 74.1 4 Matt Barkley PHI QB 18 34 52.9 17.0 278 8.2 139.0 0 1 11 32.4 40 6 1 1 68.0 5 Brock Osweiler DEN QB 22 36 61.1 18.0 272 7.6 136.0 2 1 13 36.1 57T 1 1 1 91.4 6 Chase Daniel KC QB 25 33 75.8 16.5 271 8.2 135.5 4 0 16 48.5 33 4 0 1 139.0 7 Tom Savage HOU QB 23 38 60.5 19.0 265 7.0 132.5 1 0 14 36.8 31 4 0 3 90.4 8 Matt Schaub BAL QB 22 36 61.1 18.0 249 6.9 124.5 1 1 9 25.0 45T 3 1 2 79.5 9 Case Keenum STL QB 19 33 57.6 16.5 247 7.5 123.5 1 0 9 27.3 80T 3 1 1 91.4 10 Bryn Renner BAL QB 21 35 60.0 17.5 246 7.0 123.0 2 1 16 45.7 28T 3 0 1 88.5 11 Kirk Cousins WAS QB 20 26 76.9 13.0 245 9.4 122.5 1 0 14 53.8 28 4 0 1 118.3 12 Joe Webb CAR QB 20 32 62.5 16.0 238 7.4 119.0 2 0 10 31.3 42T 2 1 3 106.0 13 Mike Glennon TB QB 20 33 60.6 16.5 227 6.9 113.5 1 0 13 39.4 26 4 0 3 91.4 14 Jameis Winston TB QB 17 32 53.1 16.0 221 6.9 110.5 0 1 10 31.3 40 2 1 3 62.1 15 Zach Mettenberger TEN QB 15 20 75.0 10.0 220 11.0 110.0 2 1 11 55.0 40 4 1 0 122.9 16 Teddy Bridgewater MIN QB 22 28 78.6 9.3 219 7.8 73.0 1 0 13 46.4 26 3 0 0 111.2 17 Bryce Petty NYJ QB 22 37 59.5 18.5 218 5.9 109.0 1 0 9 24.3 46 2 1 3 85.2 18 Blake Bortles JAC QB 19 31 61.3 15.5 216 7.0 108.0 0 0 10 32.3 36 3 0 2 82.2 19 Dan Orlovsky DET QB 18 28 64.3 14.0 214 7.6 107.0 3 0 11 39.3 36 3 0 2 123.2 20 Scott Tolzien GB QB 21 35 60.0 17.5 209 6.0 104.5 2 0 10 28.6 26T 2 0 2 96.0 21 Jimmy Clausen CHI QB 23 36 63.9 18.0 205 5.7 102.5 1 1 12 33.3 15 0 0 1 76.7 22 Ryan Griffin NO QB 16 25 64.0 12.5 197 7.9 98.5 1 0 7 28.0 31 5 0 0 101.6 23 R.J. Archer SEA QB 20 34 58.8 17.0 193 5.7 96.5 1 0 10 29.4 25 2 0 6 84.6 24 Dustin Vaughan DAL QB 19 34 55.9 17.0 190 5.6 95.0 0 2 10 29.4 21 5 0 4 47.4 25 EJ Manuel BUF QB 13 22 59.1 11.0 188 8.5 94.0 2 0 8 36.4 51T 2 1 4 117.2 26 Shaun Hill MIN QB 19 26 73.1 13.0 186 7.2 93.0 3 1 10 38.5 39 2 0 1 115.2 27 T.J. Yates ATL QB 17 30 56.7 15.0 183 6.1 91.5 0 2 9 30.0 31 2 0 2 46.9 28 Trevor Siemian DEN QB 12 16 75.0 8.0 179 11.2 89.5 1 0 6 37.5 41 3 1 1 132.0

 

Stat #2: ahh, but what about QB rating?! EJ has been LIGHTS OUT this pre-season!

 

Well, he's ranked #16! Behind the likes of Alex "trick shot QB" Tanney, Chase Daniel, Trevor Siemian, Dan Orlovsky and Mike Kafka. Imagine an alternate universe where those are your highest rated QBs! That's the pre-season!

 

Rk Player Team Pos Comp Att Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Int 1st 1st% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck Rate 1 Drew Brees NO QB 8 10 80.0 10.0 159 15.9 159.0 2 0 8 80.0 45T 2 1 0 158.3 1 Matt Ryan ATL QB 10 11 90.9 5.5 161 14.6 80.5 2 0 8 72.7 60 2 1 0 158.3 3 Matthew Stafford DET QB 8 10 80.0 5.0 135 13.5 67.5 1 0 6 60.0 35T 3 0 1 152.1 4 Ben Roethlisberger PIT QB 14 17 82.4 8.5 159 9.4 79.5 2 0 8 47.1 44T 2 1 1 144.9 5 Alex Tanney TEN QB 10 12 83.3 6.0 143 11.9 71.5 1 0 4 33.3 56T 2 1 1 144.1 6 Chase Daniel KC QB 25 33 75.8 16.5 271 8.2 135.5 4 0 16 48.5 33 4 0 1 139.0 7 Carson Palmer ARI QB 7 11 63.6 5.5 165 15.0 82.5 1 0 5 45.5 57 2 2 2 137.5 8 Trevor Siemian DEN QB 12 16 75.0 8.0 179 11.2 89.5 1 0 6 37.5 41 3 1 1 132.0 9 Colt McCoy WAS QB 9 12 75.0 6.0 113 9.4 56.5 1 0 6 50.0 23 1 0 0 131.6 10 Luke McCown NO QB 11 16 68.8 8.0 124 7.8 62.0 2 0 6 37.5 36 2 0 0 131.2 11 Ryan Tannehill MIA QB 18 22 81.8 11.0 158 7.2 79.0 2 0 9 40.9 36 1 0 1 126.9 12 Dan Orlovsky DET QB 18 28 64.3 14.0 214 7.6 107.0 3 0 11 39.3 36 3 0 2 123.2 13 Zach Mettenberger TEN QB 15 20 75.0 10.0 220 11.0 110.0 2 1 11 55.0 40 4 1 0 122.9 14 Mike Kafka MIN QB 9 12 75.0 6.0 75 6.3 37.5 1 0 4 33.3 34T 1 0 0 118.4 15 Kirk Cousins WAS QB 20 26 76.9 13.0 245 9.4 122.5 1 0 14 53.8 28 4 0 1 118.3 16 EJ Manuel BUF QB 13 22 59.1 11.0 188 8.5 94.0 2 0 8 36.4 51T 2 1 4 117.2 17 Brett Hundley GB QB 7 11 63.6 5.5 79 7.2 39.5 1 0 2 18.2 31 1 0 3 115.3 18 Shaun Hill MIN QB 19 26 73.1 13.0 186 7.2 93.0 3 1 10 38.5 39 2 0 1 115.2 19 Blaine Gabbert SF QB 14 17 82.4 8.5 107 6.3 53.5 1 0 3 17.6 25 1 0 3 112.5

 

Stat #3: Okay, but you just don't understand football! EJ has been dropping BOMBZ on opposing defenses!

 

Sure, he's done okay! But nothing compared to the cannon arms on Case Keenum, Alex Tanney and Sean Mannion! He IS ahead of guys like Brees and Luck, though! lol

 

Rk Player Team Pos Comp Att Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Int 1st 1st% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck Rate 1 Case Keenum STL QB 19 33 57.6 16.5 247 7.5 123.5 1 0 9 27.3 80T 3 1 1 91.4 2 Matt Ryan ATL QB 10 11 90.9 5.5 161 14.6 80.5 2 0 8 72.7 60 2 1 0 158.3 3 Brian Hoyer HOU QB 9 15 60.0 7.5 119 7.9 59.5 1 0 5 33.3 58T 1 1 2 107.4 4 Brock Osweiler DEN QB 22 36 61.1 18.0 272 7.6 136.0 2 1 13 36.1 57T 1 1 1 91.4 4 Carson Palmer ARI QB 7 11 63.6 5.5 165 15.0 82.5 1 0 5 45.5 57 2 2 2 137.5 6 Josh Freeman MIA QB 6 21 28.6 10.5 132 6.3 66.0 1 2 5 23.8 56T 2 1 0 29.6 6 Alex Tanney TEN QB 10 12 83.3 6.0 143 11.9 71.5 1 0 4 33.3 56T 2 1 1 144.1 8 Landry Jones PIT QB 49 97 50.5 32.3 500 5.2 166.7 3 2 23 23.7 54 7 1 6 67.4 8 Sean Mannion STL QB 14 20 70.0 10.0 146 7.3 73.0 1 0 5 25.0 54T 1 1 0 107.5 10 EJ Manuel BUF QB 13 22 59.1 11.0 188 8.5 94.0 2 0 8 36.4 51T 2 1 4 117.2 11 Bryce Petty NYJ QB 22 37 59.5 18.5 218 5.9 109.0 1 0 9 24.3 46 2 1 3 85.2 12 Drew Brees NO QB 8 10 80.0 10.0 159 15.9 159.0 2 0 8 80.0 45T 2 1 0 158.3 12 Andrew Luck IND QB 10 15 66.7 7.5 114 7.6 57.0 0 0 6 40.0 45 1 1 1 89.3

 

Stat #4: Yeah? Well EJ has been tossing TDs left and right!

 

Well, he's doing pretty well here, as he is only behind Chase Daniel, Shaun Hill, Landry Jones, and Dan Orlovsky! That's not bad company to be in! :)

 

Rk Player Team Pos Comp Att Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Int 1st 1st% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck Rate 1 Chase Daniel KC QB 25 33 75.8 16.5 271 8.2 135.5 4 0 16 48.5 33 4 0 1 139.0 2 Shaun Hill MIN QB 19 26 73.1 13.0 186 7.2 93.0 3 1 10 38.5 39 2 0 1 115.2 2 Landry Jones PIT QB 49 97 50.5 32.3 500 5.2 166.7 3 2 23 23.7 54 7 1 6 67.4 2 Dan Orlovsky DET QB 18 28 64.3 14.0 214 7.6 107.0 3 0 11 39.3 36 3 0 2 123.2 5 Drew Brees NO QB 8 10 80.0 10.0 159 15.9 159.0 2 0 8 80.0 45T 2 1 0 158.3 5 EJ Manuel BUF QB 13 22 59.1 11.0 188 8.5 94.0 2 0 8 36.4 51T 2 1 4 117.2 5 Luke McCown NO QB 11 16 68.8 8.0 124 7.8 62.0 2 0 6 37.5 36 2 0 0 131.2 5 Zach Mettenberger TEN QB 15 20 75.0 10.0 220 11.0 110.0 2 1 11 55.0 40 4 1 0 122.9 5 Brock Osweiler DEN QB 22 36 61.1 18.0 272 7.6 136.0 2 1 13 36.1 57T 1 1 1 91.4 5 Bryn Renner BAL QB 21 35 60.0 17.5 246 7.0 123.0 2 1 16 45.7 28T 3 0 1 88.5 5 Ben Roethlisberger PIT QB 14 17 82.4 8.5 159 9.4 79.5 2 0 8 47.1 44T 2 1 1 144.9 5 Matt Ryan ATL QB 10 11 90.9 5.5 161 14.6 80.5 2 0 8 72.7 60 2 1 0 158.3 5 Ryan Tannehill MIA QB 18 22 81.8 11.0 158 7.2 79.0 2 0 9 40.9 36 1 0 1 126.9 5 Scott Tolzien GB QB 21 35 60.0 17.5 209 6.0 104.5 2 0 10 28.6 26T 2 0 2 96.0 5 Joe Webb CAR QB 20 32 62.5 16.0 238 7.4 119.0 2 0 10 31.3 42T 2 1 3 106.0

 

I could go on and on, but go ahead and sort the numbers any way you like. It's goofy to make ANY argument based on pre-season statistics, where Alex Tanney, Chase Daniel, and Trevor Sieman have completion percentages over 75% and QB ratings over 130!

 

 

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