Coach Tuesday Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 He's on a rookie 2nd rounder contract. He's a steal relative to his production.
billsfan_34 Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 Every day I read ridiculous stuff on this site- todays no different. Woods isnt going anywhere and im not even wasting my time educating the OP. Please make the bafoonery stop no matter what you think of him, you really think he reaches that potential here? with our scheme, QB play, other receiving targets needing the ball? imo perfect guy to trade to a WR-needy team with an elite QB. Sell him as another Antonio Browne .... not particularly big or fast, but a disciplined route runner with good feet and sure hands, that an elite QB can rely on Ah yes, lets get in the biz of making other teams better! And who do we get in return? Cmon man
stony Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 your best franchises start moving guys out when their value is highest, and their expected contribution has flat lined. again you really think in this offense, with these QBs, with our WR targets needing the ball .. he does any better than last year's 700 yards? that kind of production can be had by a lot of WRs, and is not worth foregoing a #1 draft pick Your best franchises succeed by having cheap, productive talent. Not by trading them for below market value. We'd never get a first and almost certainly not even a second. So at this point you're selling a young, proven talent for a loss.
billsfan_34 Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 your best franchises start moving guys out when their value is highest, and their expected contribution has flat lined. again you really think in this offense, with these QBs, with our WR targets needing the ball .. he does any better than last year's 700 yards? that kind of production can be had by a lot of WRs, and is not worth foregoing a #1 draft pickActually I do and our QBs deserve targets that can catch. I dont think our QB situation is as dire as others believe.
Dragonborn10 Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 Every day I read ridiculous stuff on this site- todays no different. Woods isnt going anywhere and im not even wasting my time educating the OP. Please make the bafoonery stop Ah yes, lets get in the biz of making other teams better! And who do we get in return? Cmon man What did you say after Kiko was traded? I'm sure you would have called people morons for suggesting he get moved. Do you think moves are never made? Harvin was dealt for nothign after the Seahawks gave up a first round pick Did you think Jimmy Graham was going to get traded? Who thought Suh would not get tagged. Let people have some fun and ponder some ideas. One team's problem could be another team's opportunity.
YoloinOhio Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 What did you say after Kiko was traded? I'm sure you would have called people morons for suggesting he get moved. Do you think moves are never made? Harvin was dealt for nothign after the Seahawks gave up a first round pick Did you think Jimmy Graham was going to get traded? Who thought Suh would not get tagged. Let people have some fun and ponder some ideas. One team's problem could be another team's opportunity. oh im sorry are we getting a 2-time all pro at a position of major need in return for woods like we did for Kiko? If so then sure, it's plausible.
Augie Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 He's on a rookie 2nd rounder contract. He's a steal relative to his production. Why muddy this conversation with reality and common sense?
billsfan_34 Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 What did you say after Kiko was traded? I'm sure you would have called people morons for suggesting he get moved. Do you think moves are never made? Harvin was dealt for nothign after the Seahawks gave up a first round pick Did you think Jimmy Graham was going to get traded? Who thought Suh would not get tagged. Let people have some fun and ponder some ideas. One team's problem could be another team's opportunity. I am all for some fun. But some ideas are just plain silly. I never worried about the kiko trade. Moves that make sense are made and this one makes zero sense. Woods can ball and is cost effective. Kiko was coming off a major injury and we needed a top flight back. Apples and Oranges my friend.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 With the depth and scheme we have this guy is becoming expendable. He's already showing frustration about not getting the ball enough. He's not the red zone threat we need. Imo we don't miss a beat without him. Packers or Panthers oth may feel with their elite QBs be could he a #1 WR. If either one offers a first I'm on it. Also willing to listen to other packages. Thoughts? for Aaron Rodgers of course
Billsguy Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 Come on man?!? Think again because this is ridiculous. You are being too kind. This comment is really nonsense and should be deleted to save the poster from merciless ridicule and embarrassment.
Beerball Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 really? i sort of see him being phased out, not deliberately, but just how things are shaping up. By all accounts he's getting frustrated about it too. I also think that in his mind he wants to be thought of as the #1. In this run first scheme, and with other guys needing the ball when they do throw, I see him getting around 600 yards this year ... somewhere between his 1st and 2nd seasons. Thats respectable but i want more of out of #2, and it's certainly not worth forgoing a 1st round pick if offered You've said this more than once in this thread so I know it must be true, but, I've been so busy I missed this bit of news. Can someone provide a link. Your best franchises succeed by having cheap, productive talent. Not by trading them for below market value. We'd never get a first and almost certainly not even a second. So at this point you're selling a young, proven talent for a loss. Perhaps it would behoove JTSP to take a look at the GB roster.
Mr. WEO Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 oh im sorry are we getting a 2-time all pro at a position of major need in return for woods like we did for Kiko? If so then sure, it's plausible. Boom! End this "fun" thread with this...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 You are being too kind. This comment is really nonsense and should be deleted to save the poster from merciless ridicule and embarrassment. Where were you when I wanted Skelton
truth on hold Posted August 24, 2015 Author Posted August 24, 2015 You've said this more than once in this thread so I know it must be true, but, I've been so busy I missed this bit of news. Can someone provide a link. I thouhnt that's what the fighting was about in camp. His frustration boiling over that he wasn't getting the ball enough
White Linen Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 The only reason I'd consider trading him is because it's probably going to be difficult to sign him when his contract is due - so I wouldn't consider it until after this season.
norton20 Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 He is one fo Whaley's favorite players. I do not see this happening under any logical scenario
truth on hold Posted August 24, 2015 Author Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) He is one fo Whaley's favorite players. I do not see this happening under any logical scenario here I thought if Woods was the player they thought on draft day, they wouldnt have to pay up so much to draft watkins the very next year Edited August 24, 2015 by JTSP
YoloinOhio Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 here I thought if Woods was the player they thought on draft day, they wouldnt have to pay up so much to draft watkins the very next yearwatkins was drafted to replace Stevie. The "#1 WR." Woods was not really expected to come in and be the #1 guy at any point.
Perry Turtle Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 here I thought if Woods was the player they thought on draft day, they wouldnt have to pay up so much to draft watkins the very next year Woods was always thought of as a solid #2 WR. He's thought to be a top-notch possession guy. Watkins is the game breaker, #1 guy. They complement one another. Woods is exactly the player the Bills thought he was on draft day. That's why teams that are hurting won't offer much in a trade. Green Bay and Carolina are only interested in #1 WRs, as they are stocked with #2 guys. The Bills are in win-now mode. While it's nice to stock-pile #1 picks, dumping Woods is only going to hurt their chances to make the playoffs this year. Harvin can't run the route tree like Woods and the rookies will be too green to be as consistent as Woods. So if by some miracle some desperate team offers the Bills a #1 pick, it only hurts their chances to make the playoffs this year, which makes it even more unlikely that they would make this trade.
ChasBB Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 Let's see - great route runner, always gets open, has magnets for hands, fierce competitor - yeah, he's not the kind of guy we want to keep around
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