hondo in seattle Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I'm a pacifist by nature. Violence is rarely, if ever, the right answer. But I'm a realist too. I imagine every day in some camp or another, some NFL player is punching another. IK just hit harder than the other guys. Other teams sign serious criminals and we sign a puncher and the media gets upset. Ray Lewis had a nice career after possible involvement in a murder. AP was just given another chance. I'm expecting someone to give wife-beater Ray Rice another shot. IK is small potatoes in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 If Geno's jaw doesn't break, is this a story? I know it DID break, but if say the punch hurt him but didn't make him miss a snap in practice, does this just go down as a small footnote on NFL.com or even not reported at all? I think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 If Geno's jaw doesn't break, is this a story? I know it DID break, but if say the punch hurt him but didn't make him miss a snap in practice, does this just go down as a small footnote on NFL.com or even not reported at all? I think so. Cam Newton was in a fight last week right? No harm, no foul. The locker room setting is the other difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Not if your a 250 pound animal who is probably getting belittled in front of his teamates still.....the fact that there was not a O linemen standing up for their QB is very telling I think this is more telling: Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News also spoke to players on the Jets who said Smith "deserved" to be punched: Smith "was up in (Enemkpali’s) face and pointed/touched his face," according to a source. "Geno deserved it," another source said. ... It’s unclear how matters escalated, but Smith’s finger-pointing in his teammate’s face was grounds for a punch, according to some. "That’ll get a man hit every time, especially one that hasn’t earned respect," a source said. Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/jets-geno-smith-punched-ik-enemkpali-fight-2015-8#ixzz3ii9xFZCb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Doesn't change the fact that it wasn't a fight. Teammate puts his finger in your face, you push him off, swat it away. Unless it's Geno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Cam Newton was in a fight last week right? No harm, no foul. The locker room setting is the other difference. Before I get called out, I do understand the difference of a punch that breaks a jaw and one that doesn't. But if the puncher had been Ryan Quigly and not this insane beast of a man, the outcome would be much different. We signed a guy to play linebacker who can break jaws in multiple places with one punch. I'm struggling to see the issue with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felonious Monk Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) Before I get called out, I do understand the difference of a punch that breaks a jaw and one that doesn't. But if the puncher had been Ryan Quigly and not this insane beast of a man, the outcome would be much different. We signed a guy to play linebacker who can break jaws in multiple places with one punch. I'm struggling to see the issue with that. Agree. "Smashmouth football" on all three units. We've seen enough of the alternative for 15 (16 now?) years. Edited August 13, 2015 by Felonious Monk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Geno Smith vs. Rhonda Rousey. Who wins? Rousey would !@#$ up Geno. She wants to fight Mayweather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I think this is more telling: Joe Namath saying Geno should not have put himself in that situation and he's glad IK got another opportunity "since he's not a bad guy" is the ultimate telling point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 didn't one of the UFC mens champions just say he thought Rousey could probably beat him? She's one tough chick Rousey would !@#$ up Geno. She wants to fight Mayweather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felonious Monk Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 didn't one of the UFC mens champions just say he thought Rousey could probably beat him? She's one tough chick Seriously? LOL I'd love to know who said that so I can tip my cap. And I agree, she's something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 my bad, i misunderstood...mcgregor said he could beat mayweather and rousey could too..... Seriously? LOL I'd love to know who said that so I can tip my cap. And I agree, she's something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Geno Smith vs. Rhonda Rousey. Who wins? Rhonda. Geno Smith vs Betty White? Toss a coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) Doesn't change the fact that it wasn't a fight. Teammate puts his finger in your face, you push him off, swat it away. And enjoy being the punk who just got schooled by Geno without recouping the cash ? I don't see your angle here. I'm no fighter, put a finger in my face and tell me I won't do anything accompanied by the fact you owe me money and one just might fly. Geno did this to himself. He asked for it. Edited August 13, 2015 by Ryan L Billz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felonious Monk Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Rhonda. Geno Smith vs Betty White? Toss a coin. I chuckled Betty might have removable dentures, though. Does that change things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/13/report-rex-ryan-once-mused-about-trading-for-geno-smith/ : Ryan believed in Smith despite all of the quarterbacks flaws. Shortly after getting the Bills job, he wondered out loud to friends whether the Jets would be open to trading Smith to Buffalo. well thats a nugget thatll spark discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I chuckled Betty might have removable dentures, though. Does that change things? All depends on what exactly you have in mind I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Sorry if a re-post, but I haven't seen this in the thread as yet: http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2015/08/13/ik-enemkpali-new-york-jets-geno-smith-punch-buffalo-bills-coaches-nfl "...a member of the [bills] staff contacted a current Jets player who was in the locker room to get an account of what happened. According to the version some members of the Bills heard, Smith was mouthing off about the debt in the locker room, and Enemkpali told Smith to come over and say it to his face. Smith did, and put his finger in Enemkpali’s face, at which point Enemkpali slugged him." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Sorry if a re-post, but I haven't seen this in the thread as yet: http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2015/08/13/ik-enemkpali-new-york-jets-geno-smith-punch-buffalo-bills-coaches-nfl "...a member of the [bills] staff contacted a current Jets player who was in the locker room to get an account of what happened. According to the version some members of the Bills heard, Smith was mouthing off about the debt in the locker room, and Enemkpali told Smith to come over and say it to his face. Smith did, and put his finger in Enemkpalis face, at which point Enemkpali slugged him." seems odd hed be randomly roaming around mouthing off about it without provocation. either the dudes a true head case or theres more.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I'm a pacifist by nature. Violence is rarely, if ever, the right answer. But I'm a realist too. I imagine every day in some camp or another, some NFL player is punching another. IK just hit harder than the other guys. Other teams sign serious criminals and we sign a puncher and the media gets upset. Ray Lewis had a nice career after possible involvement in a murder. AP was just given another chance. I'm expecting someone to give wife-beater Ray Rice another shot. IK is small potatoes in comparison. This. This thread makes an excellent study for a UB sociologist. Pretty easy to see who the "law and order" types are, the guys who back authority and believe we should always bow down to it, and the "American Rebels" whose default setting is suspicion of official versions and believe in standing up for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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