26CornerBlitz Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 Has been? When was he an "ever been"? 2008 and 2010. Looooooong time ago by NFL standards. Has been!
Agent 91 Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 QB ratings- EJ - 109.7 Taylor - 78.4 Meh - 43.5 How the hell people figure this stuff out AMAZES me.
Kelly the Dog Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 How the hell people figure this stuff out AMAZES me. You google find passer rating, it takes you to a site that gives you a little generator and you put in about five stats and it gives you the rating.
PromoTheRobot Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 Has been? When was he an "ever been"?When he was a Patriot**.
Dragonborn10 Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 Just cut him now. Locker or about any other scrub would be better.
LeGOATski Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 Trade Cassel for Mettenberger? Gives Marriota a "veteran mentor"...lol
KingRex Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 Just cut him now. Locker or about any other scrub would be better.
KingRex Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 My guess is that even after the 1st pre-season game Ryan will judge it to be too soon to cut Cassel even if he stinks in that game. he action he likely would take before cutting Cassel is to give his reps with the 1st team to Tyler and Manual. Cutting him before Manuel and Tyler prove themselves would likely be a total panic move. Â In fact, if Cassel is cut the major driver in this move is not that Cassel is not a #1 talent (actually he ain't) it will be because Simms has played well enough to hold down the #3 disaster QB position AND Tyler is solid enough to be #2. Â Locker or any other available QB is likely a non-factor at this point with this only happening if some other teams makes a surprising cut (likely because they panic at QB as you seem to want the Bills to do)..
DanInUticaTampa Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 My guess is that even after the 1st pre-season game Ryan will judge it to be too soon to cut Cassel even if he stinks in that game. he action he likely would take before cutting Cassel is to give his reps with the 1st team to Tyler and Manual. Cutting him before Manuel and Tyler prove themselves would likely be a total panic move. Â In fact, if Cassel is cut the major driver in this move is not that Cassel is not a #1 talent (actually he ain't) it will be because Simms has played well enough to hold down the #3 disaster QB position AND Tyler is solid enough to be #2. Â Locker or any other available QB is likely a non-factor at this point with this only happening if some other teams makes a surprising cut (likely because they panic at QB as you seem to want the Bills to do).. Â I think they keep all 4 on through the 3rd preseason game just in case there is an injury. After the third game is where 1 of them will be cut.
Vinaccia Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 What's with all the hate on Cassel? He mentioned he wanted to play the whole game. This QB has a burning desire to be a starter and was a former pro bowler. Orton never wanted to start for the Bills and did alright by us. EJ and Tyrod are both unproven. Give the guy a preseason game before you continue your corny BS "meh" jokes. If he's not starter material, then he's not starter material, but he hasn't had even a chance in the preseason with the team. Each one of these guys deserves a chance in the preseason against another team.
Kelly the Dog Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 (edited) My guess is that even after the 1st pre-season game Ryan will judge it to be too soon to cut Cassel even if he stinks in that game. he action he likely would take before cutting Cassel is to give his reps with the 1st team to Tyler and Manual. Cutting him before Manuel and Tyler prove themselves would likely be a total panic move. Â In fact, if Cassel is cut the major driver in this move is not that Cassel is not a #1 talent (actually he ain't) it will be because Simms has played well enough to hold down the #3 disaster QB position AND Tyler is solid enough to be #2. Â Locker or any other available QB is likely a non-factor at this point with this only happening if some other teams makes a surprising cut (likely because they panic at QB as you seem to want the Bills to do).. Simms, remarkably, has PS eligibility left. That makes me believe the Bills will keep two active QBs. The team has HUGE problems as far as the final 53 goes because of guys they want to keep. They WANT to keep 4 TEs. They WANT to keep 6 WR because of Easley (who has looked good as a WR), they want to keep 4 RB. They actually want to keep two Fbs but one is a lot. There is several tough cuts to come, but we will likely keep two QBs. Edited August 9, 2015 by Kelly the Dog
DanInUticaTampa Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 They really need to increase the roster size from 53 to like 56. With all the multiple formations and specialty roles, teams need extra roster spots in the modern day nfl.
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 Simms, remarkably, has PS eligibility left. That makes me believe the Bills will keep two active QBs. The team has HUGE problems as far as the final 53 goes because of guys they want to keep. They WANT to keep 4 TEs. They WANT to keep 6 WR because of Easley (who has looked good as a WR), they want to keep 4 RB. They actually want to keep two Fbs but one is a lot. There is several tough cuts to come, but we will likely keep two QBs.If they keep only 8 offensive linemen with Richardson doubling as the 4th tackle, it may not be an issue. Probably with Chandler on PS. I took a stab at the 53 and it shook out this way 3 QB 4 HB 1 FB 6 WR 4 TE 8 OL 7 DL (includes Mario) 7 LB (includes Hughes) 5 CB 4 S 4 special teamers
papazoid Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 Cassel either wins the starting job or gets cut. Â he won't be a backup with his cap hit of $4.7 mil , but only $0.5 ($500,000) of dead money. Â they need to figure him out first.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 Trade Cassel for Mettenberger? Gives Marriota a "veteran mentor"...lol Â
Kelly the Dog Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 If they keep only 8 offensive linemen with Richardson doubling as the 4th tackle, it may not be an issue. Probably with Chandler on PS. I took a stab at the 53 and it shook out this way 3 QB 4 HB 1 FB 6 WR 4 TE 8 OL 7 DL (includes Mario) 7 LB (includes Hughes) 5 CB 4 S 4 special teamers That's really close. Who knows. With Leodis injury I don't think that keep 5 cbs and 4 s.
Rocky Landing Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 I agree that this is a final audition for Cassel. If it's a dead heat, Roman would rather have a mobile Tyrod or EJ. If Cassel can't take the job in the next two weeks, I think he's cut and they want to do their due diligence. Â Cassel either wins the starting job or gets cut. Â he won't be a backup with his cap hit of $4.7 mil , but only $0.5 ($500,000) of dead money. Â they need to figure him out first. I've said this in other threads, but I think that even if EJ or Tyrod starts in Sept, Cassel is as close as we have to a lock on the QB roster. IMO the only way Cassel gets cut is if either, a) he throws caution to the wind (excuse the pun), stops being conservative in his play, and seriously, seriously implodes, or b) Tyrod, or EJ suddenly blow up and turns into a serious contender for franchise QB, rendering Cassel's veteran presence obsolete. Neither of those scenarios seem remotely possible at this moment, and neither would even guarantee Cassel's departure. At this point, Ryan/Roman have to believe that they can game plan for Cassel as a known commodity, and rely on his consistently mediocre performance, and veteran ability to run the offense. Â And, when it comes to deciding the QB roster, I don't believe that cap space, dead money, salary, or any other financial issue will even be heard in the discussion.
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 That's really close. Who knows. With Leodis injury I don't think that keep 5 cbs and 4 s.Agreed the DBs seem tight but it's one possibility. I think Cassell is crap, but still wonder if he sets a floor at QB whereas EJ and T-Mobile are unknown, both upside and downside.
bladiebla Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 I hate to be a party pooper but if this means anything it is that both TT and EJ havent progressed enough and that it is still Cassel his job to loose. Of note is that Cassel has seen the most time in camp with the 1's as well.
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