The Wiz Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) I don't think they want to see him fail...they want to prove themselves right (that he was a reach and a mistake). Proving oneself correct is more important to a lot of people than just having an adult, intellectual conversation in which both parties can make points without either having to "win." Sounds like every EJ thread I've ever read. Thanks for the writeup astro. Plan on getting out next Wednesday myself. Edited July 31, 2015 by The Wiz
YoloinOhio Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 For me, the draft picks and UDFA's in "most-noticed" order: 1. Karlos Williams 2. Darby 3. O'Leary 4. John Miller 5. Tyson Chandler 6. Dez Lewis 7. Everyone else. how did Tyson Chandler look?
Chandler#81 Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 i agree it looks that way, but why? It makes no sense that they would want him to fail. What concerned me most, while following all the beat writers on Twitter, was tha Vic Carruci just panned EJ with every tweet. I've respected Vic since his 1st go'round here and am thrilled he's back on the 'beat'. But I won't argue he seems to have axe to grind with this watered down 1st round pic.. Too lazy to copy/paste all his entries, but he was merciless toward Manuel.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Don't get me started. One reporter said "Tyrod Taylor? He did a lot of scrambling", He scrambled once, and he was 3 for 4 on the drill. LOL Damn I miss my iPhone Bills App
Rubes Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 As others have said, these Astro reports are one of the jewels of TBD. Reading them is like tasting sweet water after an endless trek in the desert.
Lurker Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 What concerned me most, while following all the beat writers on Twitter, was tha Vic Carruci just panned EJ with every tweet. I've respected Vic since his 1st go'round here and am thrilled he's back on the 'beat'. But I won't argue he seems to have axe to grind with this watered down 1st round pic.. It's funny. Vic seems "different" somehow in his second go round at the Snooze. He was exceptional back in the Monday Night Quarterback days, with Felser and Murph. Now he just seems tired and "phoning it in" in many ways. I can't put my finger on it, but I rarely feel like saying, "Wow, this guy's good" like I used too...
White Linen Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 I don't think they want to see him fail...they want to prove themselves right (that he was a reach and a mistake). Proving oneself correct is more important to a lot of people than just having an adult, intellectual conversation in which both parties can make points without either having to "win." Perfectly said and exactly right.
The Wiz Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 It's funny. Vic seems "different" somehow in his second go round at the Snooze. He was exceptional back in the Monday Night Quarterback days, with Felser and Murph. Now he just seems tired and "phoning it in" in many ways. I can't put my finger on it, but I rarely feel like saying, "Wow, this guy's good" like I used too... Because he's on with schopp and bulldog. They both hate EJ but always throw in that "I'm not saying is impossible.... But"
White Linen Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) It's funny. Vic seems "different" somehow in his second go round at the Snooze. He was exceptional back in the Monday Night Quarterback days, with Felser and Murph. Now he just seems tired and "phoning it in" in many ways. I can't put my finger on it, but I rarely feel like saying, "Wow, this guy's good" like I used too... Funny I was thinking the exact same thing about a Month ago when I saw him holding a mic. He just looked worn out and tired - it's like he's trying too hard to fit in with the "new media" that it's making him look awfully uncomfortable. I loved his professional honesty back in the day - now it just looks engineered. Edited July 31, 2015 by Triple Threat
nucci Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 What concerned me most, while following all the beat writers on Twitter, was tha Vic Carruci just panned EJ with every tweet. I've respected Vic since his 1st go'round here and am thrilled he's back on the 'beat'. But I won't argue he seems to have axe to grind with this watered down 1st round pic.. Too lazy to copy/paste all his entries, but he was merciless toward Manuel. Carucci seems different....maybe a bit bitter or angry since he's returned. I don't care for his writing as much as I used to.
FLFan Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 Practice Notes Day 1, Friday: Practice began precisely at 10:00 am under a cloudless sky and perfect temps. I had some DraftTek buddies there today, so they helped with unfamiliar jersey numbers, etc. 35 of the current 88 players won't make this roster, and that's too bad, because the strength and depth of this team is incredible. We decided that there will be some regrettable cuts at WR, RB, and TE, where we are deep. Players who caught our eyes this mornng included: RB Karlos Williams (bigger and faster than expected, who'd give a fourth quarter pounding to every team we're leading); RB Shady McCoy (he came over to our section and got the crowd cheering, then threw an NFL football into the stands. The guy in front of me caught it, and gave it to a six-year-old boy. Both were classy moves. Shady also had a great catch vs Ty Powell that was my Play of the Day. WR Sammy Watkins. He looked 100%, and will do everything to merit being a Pro Bowl receiver. WR Deonte Thompson (PS receiver and/or gunner, who impressed us with slick out-and-in moves to thwart double-teams in the kicking game); WR Andre Davis (two very impressive fingertip catches, one over his shoulder for 40+ yards against air); WR Marcus Thigpen (three nice catches...listed in the training camp as 6'9", so a typo. He's not 6'1") P Colton Schmidt has deeper kicks with more hang time than last year. One went 60+ yards and bounced out at the 1. QB EJ Manuel, whose throwing motion and particularly decisiveness trumped the others today. All QBs hand off to Shady nicely. Keep that in mind. Tyrod had a nice lead pass to Fred Jackson worth mentioning, and Cassel is better than I thought at leading his man. Simms will be a better PS guy than Tuel. Music was playing all morning during practice. Lots of songs you'd know (Funk You Up, Juke Box Hero, Sweet Caroline--we play Panthers a week from Friday). Random: --Jimmy Gaines had a nice strip, resulting in a fumble. --Felton had two drops this morning. Conner, Rex's FB, caught all balls thrown to him. Line for 11:11 was Glenn-Miller-Wood-Cyril-Kujo at one point. --TE Mulligan made two nice catches. He's known as a blocking TE, but could end up being the 4th TE if he keeps this up. Gragg, not to be outdone, had a nice catch, too, where he faked a block and slanted in. --Duke Williams INT was due to intense DL and LB pressure. We can bring it. --Gilmore isn't there yet. Of course, he was on an island vs Watkins, then Harvin, then Goodwin. Later, Woods sells Gilly on a fly pattern and slants over the middle. --I'm seeing the pre-snap shifts and motions that Greg Roman has instituted. Some more notes, as I have time today: WR --Dezmin Lewis has the height (6'4") but he's thinner in the upper body than you'd like. Needs weight room and chicken wings. Two drops today. --Justin Brown is the Oklahoma receiver who is 6-3, and boy is he smooth catching the football. I saw two seamless hands catches from him. --Thigpen is doing all he can to make this squad as a WR as well as a PR/KR. Three nice catches I saw and solid work fielding punts from Colton Schmidt today. -- ST --We should have a top 3 special teams group this year. That's the good news. It's likely bad news for a player or two from last year. Easley? Boobie? CB --Somebody has to tell Darby those red knee sox are...well... popular in the 1950's. With the girls. --There is a DB in came with "Miller" and "43" on his jersey that's not in the program. Any news? OL --Kouandjio canm flat-out run. He got to the second level on a play faster than Jason Peters used to do. LB --Tony Steward looks like he's full go. That spells doom for somebody. Tarpley? TE --O'Leary didn't drop a ball today. He's the TE version of Chris Hogan. --Clay is half a head bigger than O'Leary, yet they're both listed as 6-3. I'll try and answer any questions you have. I'm going back tomorrow.Dean Kindig Great reporting. Thank you.
hmsmystic Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 Thanks for the update! Should sticky these daily update threads to the top every day to skip over the junk threads!
stony Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 Some more notes, as I have time today: WR --Dezmin Lewis has the height (6'4") but he's thinner in the upper body than you'd like. Needs weight room and chicken wings. Two drops today. --Justin Brown is the Oklahoma receiver who is 6-3, and boy is he smooth catching the football. I saw two seamless hands catches from him. --Thigpen is doing all he can to make this squad as a WR as well as a PR/KR. Three nice catches I saw and solid work fielding punts from Colton Schmidt today. -- ST --We should have a top 3 special teams group this year. That's the good news. It's likely bad news for a player or two from last year. Easley? Boobie? CB --Somebody has to tell Darby those red knee sox are...well... popular in the 1950's. With the girls. --There is a DB in came with "Miller" and "43" on his jersey that's not in the program. Any news? OL --Kouandjio canm flat-out run. He got to the second level on a play faster than Jason Peters used to do. LB --Tony Steward looks like he's full go. That spells doom for somebody. Tarpley? TE --O'Leary didn't drop a ball today. He's the TE version of Chris Hogan. --Clay is half a head bigger than O'Leary, yet they're both listed as 6-3. Great insight. This is why I pay money to be a member here!!
billieve420 Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 Astro on the money about EJ. Rex was on WGR and noted after reviewing tape mentioned EJ having a good day.
MDH Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 As others have said, thanks Astro! Very much appreciated.
Mark Vader Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 One pass was, in my opinion, thrown at Woods' feet. This is far better than throwing an INT or the Trentative pat-pat-pat-sack. Or the Rob Johnson roll-out, roll-out, roll-out and step-out-of-bounds and sack myself.
bourbonboy Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 For me, the draft picks and UDFA's in "most-noticed" order: 1. Karlos Williams 2. Darby 3. O'Leary 4. John Miller 5. Tyson Chandler 6. Dez Lewis 7. Everyone else. LOVE this thread! And trust this review more than media reports - but I gotta ask - how can Lewis be on this list if he looked thin and showed questionable hands, while others flashed? Is this a "most-noticed" good list, or does it include bad notice also?
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