WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 I know that any federal case now is about Federal Labor law, so I'm conflicted: on one hand it would be a slam dunk against whether Brady was guilty. On the other, even if the case goes Brady's way, it won't prove him innocent just limiting the authority of the commissioner.
YoloinOhio Posted July 28, 2015 Author Posted July 28, 2015 LOL. He did call it.even a broken clock is right twice a day!
Clippers of Nfl Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 "Take the discipline like a man cheater". That's what I would tell him to his face.
DrDawkinstein Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Good for Rog! gained a little respect for him with this. We love Goodell again! The NFL's stance on Brady changed the second that Troy Vincent took over. And who would know better than a DB who spent most of his career in Brady's division? Troy knows something is up, and something has to change.
eball Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 I haven't found anything regarding the NFL filing suit. I would assume they are seeking to block an injunction that they are expecting from Brady. That way, a fed judge would have to overturn another court's ruling by imposing an injunction, rather than just ruling for an injunction on its own merits. But, that is just speculation on my part. Yeah, that's what I gather. They're seeking "confirmation and approval" that the decision was made in accordance with the CBA and is enforceable under federal labor laws. If granted (and there's no reason to think it won't be), then if the NFLPA files in Minnesota the judge there would have to overturn a federal counterpart.
YoloinOhio Posted July 28, 2015 Author Posted July 28, 2015 There it is... @JimTrotter_NFL: Tom Brady has authorized the NFLPA to appeal his case in federal court, per source.
NoSaint Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 I haven't found anything regarding the NFL filing suit. I would assume they are seeking to block an injunction that they are expecting from Brady. That way, a fed judge would have to overturn another court's ruling by imposing an injunction, rather than just ruling for an injunction on its own merits. But, that is just speculation on my part. that seems like the obvious explanation, but the concept of pre-emptively getting a court judgement confirming something that is not yet disputed surprised me (as a non-legal expert) the theory of why you would do it is seemingly obvious, but that the courts would place themselves into that situation didnt strike me as normal There it is... @JimTrotter_NFL: Tom Brady has authorized the NFLPA to appeal his case in federal court, per source. well, its about to actually get interesting if true. i know a lot of folks here doubted it would ever happen and thought it was a bluff.
Clippers of Nfl Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 There it is... @JimTrotter_NFL: Tom Brady has authorized the NFLPA to appeal his case in federal court, per source. I dont get it. I thought he already appealed.
YoloinOhio Posted July 28, 2015 Author Posted July 28, 2015 @AlbertBreer: Re: Non-cooperation ... Union in a tough spot there, bc Brady was with the Patriots lawyers, not the NFLPA's, for the Wells investigation.
NoSaint Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 I dont get it. I thought he already appealed. and now he is suing the league, it seems. the grounds of which we will see when/if he files. if it gets past initial chatter of the next few days, we may be seeing him week 2.
bladiebla Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Oh, this is great: Albert Breer @AlbertBreer 1m1 minute ago Brady communicated to the commissioner that he routinely destroys his phone for security reasons. 10,000+ messages over a 4 month timespan; translates to nearly 100 messages a day. That seems a bit much doesn't it. I can't help but feel that Brady was covering up something else entirely. Were they relaying plays through text messages, or something similar? Was he getting playbook info from other sources delivered via text or something?
Matt in KC Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Final Appeal decision: https://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/07282015-final-decision-tom-brady-appeal.pdf Scathing! My guess is the courts decline to accept the case. I think the cell phone destruction closes this out and should remove anyone's questioning of guilt.
Rocky Landing Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 (edited) that seems like the obvious explanation, but the concept of pre-emptively getting a court judgement confirming something that is not yet disputed surprised me (as a non-legal expert) the theory of why you would do it is seemingly obvious, but that the courts would place themselves into that situation didnt strike me as normal I think the difference (if I'm correct in my assumptions-- that's a big "if") is that blocking the injunction is not affirming the NFL's findings, but affirming their authority to hand out a suspension. Brady is still free to sue. Edited July 28, 2015 by Rocky Landing
plenzmd1 Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 10,000+ messages over a 4 month timespan; translates to nearly 100 messages a day. That seems a bit much doesn't it. I can't help but feel that Brady was covering up something else entirely. Were they relaying plays through text messages, or something similar? Was he getting playbook info from other sources delivered via text or something? I am probably close to 200 a day.
Clippers of Nfl Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 and now he is suing the league, it seems. the grounds of which we will see when/if he files. if it gets past initial chatter of the next few days, we may be seeing him week 2. You know what. At this point I dont give a crap anymore. Im glad top of the top Roger G upheld the decision. He knows Brady is a cheater. That's fine for now. This will forever taint his stupid legacy to a certain degree. Which makes me think. This ahole would have appealed even a 2 game reduction. He wanted to be cleared completely. Cheating ahole
NoSaint Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 10,000+ messages over a 4 month timespan; translates to nearly 100 messages a day. That seems a bit much doesn't it. I can't help but feel that Brady was covering up something else entirely. Were they relaying plays through text messages, or something similar? Was he getting playbook info from other sources delivered via text or something? hes a celeb - agent, coaches, teammates, wife, kids, ex wife, lawyer, friends, etc... can EASILY add up to 100 a day id imagine. while it seems clear hes covering stuff up i dont think that 10k number is noteworthy here.
stony Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 im curious - ive never heard of a league filing with courts to confirm a suspension. i hope some of the legal scholars out there chime in. at this point, its the league that has made first move to involve the courts True, but it would've happened anyways. Smart move by Park Ave. to try and keep it out of the Minnesota court.
Chandler#81 Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 In related news, Billy 'the Brain' Belichek just signed the 1st masked QB from Mexico. He goes by the name of El Brado..
YoloinOhio Posted July 28, 2015 Author Posted July 28, 2015 You know what. At this point I dont give a crap anymore. Im glad top of the top Roger G upheld the decision. He knows Brady is a cheater. That's fine for now. This will forever taint his stupid legacy to a certain degree. Which makes me think. This ahole would have appealed even a 2 game reduction. He wanted to be cleared completely. Cheating ahole i don't care anymore either. Our record vs him is brutal, but at this point, would love to see our D chew him up. The Ralph would be relentless.
Mr. WEO Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Final Appeal decision: https://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/07282015-final-decision-tom-brady-appeal.pdf Scathing! My guess is the courts decline to accept the case. I think the cell phone destruction closes this out and should remove anyone's questioning of guilt. He won't be taking it to court to determine guilt or innocense..
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