LeGOATski Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 What was new about it? GO BILLS!!! idk. we already knew that Brady provided the list. That's not new and still poses questions about their timing.
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 You know, the longer this goes, I think this kills Brady in the court of public opinion. No where will his suit undo that he was found to have cheater, and each sleazy spin makes him more unlikable. Brady having slightly decreasing the air in the balls does not reall diminish his legacy. Stamping around like a child having a temper tantrum while clumsy coverup after clumsy coverup and silly excuse comes to light does.
Wayne Cubed Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Looks like a lot of that quote was new information to the public. What are you talking about? What's new, besides the childish remarks by Yee?
NoSaint Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 idk. we already knew that Brady provided the list. That's not new and still poses questions about their timing. timing seems about as simple as "we arent providing it, its not something thats been of consequence before" and then "oh, you are issuing a suspension on this, heres the requested stuff" though if k9 is correct that he withheld everything that was actually from wells relevant request period, its a whole different conversation.
K-9 Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 idk. we already knew that Brady provided the list. That's not new and still poses questions about their timing. And we also know that the phone information provided was irrelevant because it didn't come from the exact phone that Wells demanded the information from. Nor did it comply with the timeframe requested. My new word for the day: SUBTERFUGE! I don't think it means what Yee thinks it means. GO BILLS!!!
Augie Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Ultimately, though...they could just get up on the stand and plead the fifth (reasonably, since they'd be implicating themselves). NDA not broken, subpoena not violated. But if offered immunity, they'd have to testify, correct?
K-9 Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 timing seems about as simple as "we arent providing it, its not something thats been of consequence before" and then "oh, you are issuing a suspension on this, heres the requested stuff" though if k9 is correct that he withheld everything that was actually from wells relevant request period, its a whole different conversation. It's not my correctness in question here. It's in Goodell's report that he filed yesterday. GO BILLS!!!
NoSaint Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 It's not my correctness in question here. It's in Goodell's report that he filed yesterday. GO BILLS!!! and i havent looked, so im trusting you are correct in presenting that.
DC Tom Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 You know, the longer this goes, I think this kills Brady in the court of public opinion. No where will his suit undo that he was found to have cheater, and each sleazy spin makes him more unlikable. Brady having slightly decreasing the air in the balls does not reall diminish his legacy. Stamping around like a child having a temper tantrum while clumsy coverup after clumsy coverup and silly excuse comes to light does. Americans like victims. If Brady apologized and meekly took his punishment, America would love him. Instead, he's acting like a giant douche rocket, and making the league the victim. Meaning he's accomplishing the impossible task of making America love Roger !@#$ing Goodell. Brilliant strategy. Somewhere in hell, Hitler's ghost is watching this and thinking "Hey, I was an idiot, but at least I only invaded Russia." But if offered immunity, they'd have to testify, correct? I'm not sure. I only know that's what Law & Order SVU says.
K-9 Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 and i havent looked, so im trusting you are correct in presenting that. Start by reading page 11: 'C. Did Mr. Brady Refuse to cooperate with the Investigation' GO BILLS!!!
DC Tom Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Start by reading page 11: 'C. Did Mr. Brady Refuse to cooperate with the Investigation' GO BILLS!!! And Brady's defense against that accusation will likely be "That's a lie. The investigator didn't cooperate with me."
sodbuster Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 You know, the longer this goes, I think this kills Brady in the court of public opinion. No where will his suit undo that he was found to have cheater, and each sleazy spin makes him more unlikable. Brady having slightly decreasing the air in the balls does not reall diminish his legacy. Stamping around like a child having a temper tantrum while clumsy coverup after clumsy coverup and silly excuse comes to light does. And we were worried this would all get swept under the rug and become nothing more than a footnote in their history. I, for one, hope he continues to fight it and make himself look like a spoiled child.
K-9 Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Americans like victims. If Brady apologized and meekly took his punishment, America would love him. Instead, he's acting like a giant douche rocket, and making the league the victim. Meaning he's accomplishing the impossible task of making America love Roger !@#$ing Goodell. Brilliant strategy. Somewhere in hell, Hitler's ghost is watching this and thinking "Hey, I was an idiot, but at least I only invaded Russia." I'm not sure. I only know that's what Law & Order SVU says. Outstanding. Especially the reference to Hitler invading Russia. GO BILLS!!!
Augie Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 I'm not sure. I only know that's what Law & Order SVU says. That should be enough, I think they have pretty good ratings. The people have voted!
K-9 Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 And Brady's defense against that accusation will likely be "That's a lie. The investigator didn't cooperate with me." LOL! You are in rare form today. Even for you. But given how Brady has told two different phone stories in less than a day, wouldn't it be great to see him perform under oath on a stand? That will never happen, but he would crumble. I think he would actually breakdown. GO BILLS!!!
DC Tom Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Outstanding. Especially the reference to Hitler invading Russia. GO BILLS!!! I was going to say "It's like Hitler invading Russia," but I didn't want to Godwin the thread. But it does have it's parallels - a (*^*&%^$^#narcissist takes a stand on a ridiculous principle and picks a fight with a dumbshit tyrant that nobody likes, and suddenly everyone finds themselves grudgingly supporting the tyrant against their better judgement. In two weeks, we'll see Goodell, Irsay, and Bisciotti meeting at Yalta, while Brady hides in a bunker under Harvard Square.
LeGOATski Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 timing seems about as simple as "we arent providing it, its not something thats been of consequence before" and then "oh, you are issuing a suspension on this, heres the requested stuff" though if k9 is correct that he withheld everything that was actually from wells relevant request period, its a whole different conversation. The CBA says that you're supposed to provide that information before the hearing. If they did, couldn't the NFL delay the hearing and look into it? Providing it at the hearing allows them to conveniently say to the public "oh, look. we provided the info and the NFL isn't doing anything." From the NFL's point of view, the hearing has now happened and they're supposed to make a ruling, according to the CBA, not investigate further.
Kelly the Dog Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 And Brady's defense against that accusation will likely be "That's a lie. The investigator didn't cooperate with me." Plus, Brady had already provided a transcript of all the answers to all of the questions that Goodell had for him before the appeal even started, which read, "No. No. No. I have no idea. Not me. No. No. Why should I? No. No. I know you are but what am I. No. No. Not me. Because I'm Tom Motherfukkin Brady, that's why. No. Not me. Why are you out to get me. And no."
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