This is the Way We Protect the World From Iran's Nukes'...?

[Keukasmallies]

Thankfully, Iran decided that the western nations had given away enough, so they concluded the "negotiations" in order to get the treasure trove flowing into their country immediately. The Iranian leaders have every right to insult the US after we proved to be their whipping boys by agreeing to the provisions of the "deal." Iran approached the process much the same as shopping in a store that held only much sought after items; and, man, did they score big time. When the shopping cart was overflowing, they went home sated.

 

http://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/07/27/the-real-problems-with-the-iran-nuclear-deal

 

May the US never experience another POTUS as shortsighted as the current occupant of 1600 PA Avenue.

[OCinBuffalo]

Shortsighted? Or, is it ideologysighted? Is it bubblesighted?

 

My contention is Obama's problem #1 is: he's never experienced anything like PPP in his entire life. A few hours here would benefit him immensely, because he'd get his ass kicked so badly + taking it all personally, that he would immediately set out to inform himself.

 

Sure, he has hired a few Rs, and he supposedly listens to the other side of issues. However, hiring someone, and then never speaking to them again, is doing it wrong. Listening, not to understand, but rather to collect intelligence on how your ideas are going to be attacked, and going into meetings not with an open mind, but with a belief in your own superiority in all things? Also doing it wrong.

 

No president since perhaps Grant, has done less of his own work on each issue/program in his policy. Obama defines parrot. Look at what happened when he tired to parrot Elizabeth Warren's speech on government infrastructure contributing to business success(which is like giving credit for a TD...to the football): we got "You didn't build that". That's not what Warren was saying. That's not what any reasonable D believes.

 

Yet, bubble-boy, who relies on everyone else to do the "details"(otherwise known as being personally familiar with the material and the issues), repeatedly Fs things up, and then blames everybody else("I got screwed by a website"). Hey clown: you know the best way not to get screwed by a website? How about knowing how to manage something, in general, and, doing the F'ing reading to know what to avoid.

 

Like I said: a few hours on PPP would force Obama out of his Valerie Jarrett bubble.

[TH3]

Shortsighted? Or, is it ideologysighted? Is it bubblesighted?

 

My contention is Obama's problem #1 is: he's never experienced anything like PPP in his entire life. A few hours here would benefit him immensely, because he'd get his ass kicked so badly + taking it all personally, that he would immediately set out to inform himself.

 

Sure, he has hired a few Rs, and he supposedly listens to the other side of issues. However, hiring someone, and then never speaking to them again, is doing it wrong. Listening, not to understand, but rather to collect intelligence on how your ideas are going to be attacked, and going into meetings not with an open mind, but with a belief in your own superiority in all things? Also doing it wrong.

 

No president since perhaps Grant, has done less of his own work on each issue/program in his policy. Obama defines parrot. Look at what happened when he tired to parrot Elizabeth Warren's speech on government infrastructure contributing to business success(which is like giving credit for a TD...to the football): we got "You didn't build that". That's not what Warren was saying. That's not what any reasonable D believes.

 

Yet, bubble-boy, who relies on everyone else to do the "details"(otherwise known as being personally familiar with the material and the issues), repeatedly Fs things up, and then blames everybody else("I got screwed by a website"). Hey clown: you know the best way not to get screwed by a website? How about knowing how to manage something, in general, and, doing the F'ing reading to know what to avoid.

 

Like I said: a few hours on PPP would force Obama out of his Valerie Jarrett bubble.

 

Maybe a few hours outside of PPP would help most of the posters here.....

[3rdnlng]

 

Maybe a few hours outside of PPP would help most of the posters here.....

I think you personally would be much improved if you had a brain.

[Ozymandius]

Obama made the deal as a gift to his Muslim second wife, Iranian Valerie Jarrett. Jarrett was upset and jealous that Obama had been spending too much time with his third and fourth wives*, Sasha** and Malia**, so Obama had to do something to placate Valerie.

 

* The Koran allows a Muslim to marry up to 4 wives: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/017-polygamy.htm

 

** They are alleged to be Obama's daughters to avoid criticism, but Muslims love marrying children, as Muhammad married a 6-yr-old and boned her at age 9: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha#Age_at_marriage

[Justice]

Obama made the deal as a gift to his Muslim second wife, Iranian Valerie Jarrett. Jarrett was upset and jealous that Obama had been spending too much time with his third and fourth wives*, Sasha** and Malia**, so Obama had to do something to placate Valerie.

 

* The Koran allows a Muslim to marry up to 4 wives: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/017-polygamy.htm

 

** They are alleged to be Obama's daughters to avoid criticism, but Muslims love marrying children, as Muhammad married a 6-yr-old and boned her at age 9: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha#Age_at_marriage

How old was Joseph when he married the Virgin Mary? How old was Mary?

[LeviF]

How old was Joseph when he married the Virgin Mary? How old was Mary?

 

Can't be certain. Mary was almost certainly a teenager; possibly as young as 13 or 14. Joseph may have been 16 or 17, or possibly older. It's much harder to deduce Joseph's approximate age than Mary's, though, given customs at the time; silly Catholic guessing notwithstanding.

[Justice]

 

Can't be certain. Mary was almost certainly a teenager; possibly as young as 13 or 14. Joseph may have been 16 or 17, or possibly older. It's much harder to deduce Joseph's approximate age than Mary's, though, given customs at the time; silly Catholic guessing notwithstanding.

I read he was 90. Already married for 49 years before he married the Virgin Mary.

[Ozymandius]

I read he was 90. Already married for 49 years before he married the Virgin Mary.

 

In any case, he married a teenage girl who could child-bear, but he didn't consummate or at least hadn't consummated at the time of Jesus' birth.

 

This is far different from marrying a 6-yr-old and consummating when she was 9.

 

Besides, Joseph is a mostly irrelevant person for Christians. Muhammad is the prophet for you guys.

[4merper4mer]

 

In any case, he married a teenage girl who could child-bear, but he didn't consummate or at least hadn't consummated at the time of Jesus' birth.

 

This is far different from marrying a 6-yr-old and consummating when she was 9.

 

Besides, Joseph is a mostly irrelevant person for Christians. Muhammad is the prophet for you guys.

You keep forgetting to log n as Pearl Howardman before making your posts.

[DC Tom]

 

In any case, he married a teenage girl who could child-bear, but he didn't consummate or at least hadn't consummated at the time of Jesus' birth.

 

This is far different from marrying a 6-yr-old and consummating when she was 9.

 

Besides, Joseph is a mostly irrelevant person for Christians. Muhammad is the prophet for you guys.

 

Stupid should hurt.

[OCinBuffalo]

 

Maybe a few hours outside of PPP would help most of the posters here.....

Yeah, Obama is like you in that he needs to be confronted with the scientific reality that AGW is merely a theory, and, given the state of the current data, more like a hypothesis, and nowhere near, or even on the right path towards, anything resembling a law of physics, or a physical constant like gravity. THAT is settled science. AGW isn't even science anymore.

 

See, like you, if he was confronted with...

 

...the fact...

 

...that the global, empirical data isn't matching the AGW theory's projections, and, given...

 

...the fact...

 

...that the predictive models expected 2-3x less CO2 than has actually been released in the last 10 years, so we should be seeing 2-3x the factor in warming they predicted today, but aren't?

 

He'd have no answer, just like you have no answer. I don't know if he'd keep running the same nonsense/keep ignoring the facts, like you do. I'd like to think he's realize it's time for him to do his own work on the topic.

Edited July 27, 2015 by OCinBuffalo

[Justice]

 

In any case, he married a teenage girl who could child-bear, but he didn't consummate or at least hadn't consummated at the time of Jesus' birth.

 

This is far different from marrying a 6-yr-old and consummating when she was 9.

 

Besides, Joseph is a mostly irrelevant person for Christians. Muhammad is the prophet for you guys.

There are laws against marriage to females who haven't come of age yet in the Quran. Muhammad (pbuh) married Aisha before the Quran was written.

 

Also it was very common in those times in that part of the world for young girls, such as Aisha, to get married.

[LeviF]

I read he was 90. Already married for 49 years before he married the Virgin Mary.

 

Yeah, that's Catholic drivel to back up their version of Mary as perpetual virgin. There are no 1st century sources to back that up, in fact the first time an advanced age is mentioned is in the 5th century. Odds are Joseph was also in his teens, or perhaps a youngish widower.

[Ozymandius]

You keep forgetting to log n as Pearl Howardman before making your posts.

 

Is he an Islamic scholar, too?

 

 

There are laws against marriage to females who haven't come of age yet in the Quran. Muhammad (pbuh) married Aisha before the Quran was written.

 

Also it was very common in those times in that part of the world for young girls, such as Aisha, to get married.

 

The bold sentence depends on the exegesis of 65:4, of which there are conflicting interpretations. In any case, it doesn't matter to me. I agree with your last sentence and my original point wasn't to condemn but just to point out that it is possible for Obama's "daughters" to really be his 3rd and 4th wives.

[TH3]

Yeah, Obama is like you in that he needs to be confronted with the scientific reality that AGW is merely a theory, and, given the state of the current data, more like a hypothesis, and nowhere near, or even on the right path towards, anything resembling a law of physics, or a physical constant like gravity. THAT is settled science. AGW isn't even science anymore.

 

See, like you, if he was confronted with...

 

...the fact...

 

...that the global, empirical data isn't matching the AGW theory's projections, and, given...

 

...the fact...

 

...that the predictive models expected 2-3x less CO2 than has actually been released in the last 10 years, so we should be seeing 2-3x the factor in warming they predicted today, but aren't?

 

He'd have no answer, just like you have no answer. I don't know if he'd keep running the same nonsense/keep ignoring the facts, like you do. I'd like to think he's realize it's time for him to do his own work on the topic.

 

This line shows that you have no idea what you are talking about

 

Isn't this supposed to be about nukes and Iran?

Edited July 28, 2015 by baskin

[Ozymandius]

 

Isn't this supposed to be about nukes and Iran?

 

Well, if ISIS can be blamed on global warming, I'm sure progressives will blame the Iran deal on global warming at some point.

 

Thanks to progressives, global warming is now permanently on-topic.

[OCinBuffalo]

 

This line shows that you have no idea what you are talking about

 

Isn't this supposed to be about nukes and Iran?

No. In fact, the estimated CO2 levels for these models never accounted for the massive increase in coal burning by India, and more importantly, China. These countries, depending on the model, have relased between 2-3x more CO2 than the models anticipated. If anything, we should be seeing the models as "right", and then debating that the extra CO2 made them right. That should be the argument, but it isn't, because even with the "help", the models are STILL analytic Fails in every respect.

 

QED Google. Look it up. Do your own work for a change. It is you who doesn't know what you are talking about.

 

Like Obama, it's far past time for you to stop parroting, and stop F'ing about using other people's talking points, or relying on contrived, college professor, theoretical, but dies as soon it's exposed to oxygen, "policy"; which is exactly how this Iran/nukes deal was created...and start doing your own work.

 

Example: if you, or Obama, did your own work on this Iran deal, you would know that giving 24 days notice before an inspection is ludicrous.

 

But, because you don't know anything about the material, and because your ideology tells you that negotiation is always the answer to everything, you will go along with whatever has been "negotiated"...because that means "no war". Then you will self-congratulate yourself for being "enlightened".

 

Of course, when Israel attacks Iran the day after Obama leaves office? You won't dare show your face here. You'll go hang out in the college bar with the rest of the grad students and professors and claim that none of this proves anything, least of all that none of you know WTF you are talking about.

 

EDIT: Hell, what am I thinking? Obama is such a joke, Israel will probably attack before he leaves office. WTF is he going to do? Negotiate them into compliance? Give yet another speech? Hold a fundraiser? The entire world knows the guy is a candy ass.

Edited July 28, 2015 by OCinBuffalo

[IDBillzFan]

 

Well, if ISIS can be blamed on global warming, I'm sure progressives will blame the Iran deal on global warming at some point.

 

Thanks to progressives, global warming is now permanently on-topic.

 

Global climate change: is there nothing it can't do?