YoloinOhio Posted July 27, 2015 Author Share Posted July 27, 2015 Cooper is going to ball out - but I have no faith in Carr. Still, would not surprise me if Cooper had the best career between him, ODB, Evans, and Watkins. as someone said in the ROY thread (maybe it was you?) he will see a TON of targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Carr had a talented, big receiver with him at Fresno named Davante Adams. I foresee a similar dynamic between him and Cooper. They could be a quality young duo... I believe that they can be a quality duo, but that almost of the quality will come from Cooper's end. I could be wrong, though. I have asked this before on a few threads, but have yet to receive a satisfactory answer: How serious is the hip injury / surgery that Sammy sustained? Any examples of strong seasons by WRs following the injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 27, 2015 Author Share Posted July 27, 2015 I believe that they can be a quality duo, but that almost of the quality will come from Cooper's end. I could be wrong, though. I have asked this before on a few threads, but have yet to receive a satisfactory answer: How serious is the hip injury / surgery that Sammy sustained? Any examples of strong seasons by WRs following the injury? i believe woods had the surgery in 2014 off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 as someone said in the ROY thread (maybe it was you?) he will see a TON of targets. Beyond Cooper, the Raiders' receiving corps is a total disaster - he's not going to get eased in. I think the most common pre-draft refrain about Cooper was that he was 'pro-ready' and could 'run the whole route tree.' Very hard for me to get a read on him in terms of fantasy. Sorry though, I don't want to this derail this thread - should be about Watkins. i believe woods had the surgery in 2014 off season. Thanks, that's helpful. Still, I worry about Watkins health more than anything else with him - I feel pretty confident the ability and work ethic are there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 @NBCSports Sammy Watkins says it's playoffs or bust for the Bills: http://tw.nbcsports.com/CbH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 the guy won both the Vikings and Lions games by himself at game's end. those were two sure losses and he makes two incredible plays . I am sold, second chance my ass. the media are idi--s. get your popcorn. all this offseason crapola is about to end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Lets face it......writers feel they have the need to bash Sammy's season because it didnt surpas the seasons of ODB and Evans last year...... Because he only had a good season for a rookie....and not BEST numbers of the rookies.......the writer feels justified in writing that piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 So if a player needs a "second chance" does that mean they're a bust? If so, how many 1st round 'busts' have we had now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Lets face it......writers feel they have the need to bash Sammy's season because it didnt surpas the seasons of ODB and Evans last year...... Because he only had a good season for a rookie....and not BEST numbers of the rookies.......the writer feels justified in writing that piece. I think there is more legitimacy to being compared to your peers than your comment would indicate. NFL.com's best scout/media analyst Daniel Jeremiah does a really nice podcast every week called "Move the Sticks." A month or two ago, he went into a detailed explanation of how changing college offensive systems and better college conditioning programs mean that WR prospects are more ready coming into the league (as rookies) than they have ever been before. The standard is different now. Passing stats have undergone serious inflation over the last 10 years for all WRs and rookie are more pro-ready coming out than they were in past decades. Watkins needs to be held to this new, higher standard. Yes his statistics comparable favorably to historical rookie stats, but several of his peers blew him out of the water statistically. All that being said, I still believe in Watkins - but it's because I believe he was hampered by injuries and a lack of surrounding talent (coaching staff included). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Why do people keep using "ODB" when it's "OBJ"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Watkins had a good rookie season, for chrissake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Why do people keep using "ODB" when it's "OBJ"? Because that's what OBJ prefers to go by per his Twitter last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Because that's what OBJ prefers to go by per his Twitter last year. Yet his twitter handle is OBJ.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 ruh ro so soon? Sammy Watkins: 'There's no doubt that we should win our division' It has been seven years since a team other than the New England Patriots has won the AFC East, but that doesn't affect Buffalo Bills WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 @mikerodak: Bills WR Sammy Watkins, speaking at his football camp at ECC, confirms he'll be "full go" at practice Friday. http://t.co/wvGf8XuL3L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 @mikerodak: Bills WR Sammy Watkins, speaking at his football camp at ECC, confirms he'll be "full go" at practice Friday. http://t.co/wvGf8XuL3L let's fcking gooooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 let's fcking gooooooo he put on a show last year at SJF, the last time he was 100% healthy (before Shazier cheap shotted him) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 he put on a show last year at SJF, the last time he was 100% healthy (before Shazier cheap shotted him) Watching him run routes against air was exciting in camp last year. So explosive. I was supposed to be at camp this year for two weeks, doesn't look like I'm going to be able to make any now though. Which means I'll be leaning heavily on you and 26 for the next four weeks, don't let me down. GO BILLS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 Watching him run routes against air was exciting in camp last year. So explosive. I was supposed to be at camp this year for two weeks, doesn't look like I'm going to be able to make any now though. Which means I'll be leaning heavily on you and 26 for the next four weeks, don't let me down. GO BILLS! im going to probably let you down. I am sure others will post all the TC tweets, but it was pretty excruciating last year with the snarkiness tacked on my certain reporters and the conflicting info amongst them. It was just not my cup of tea. I have a couple reporters who I think are pretty objective - Sal C and Carucci - because I think they have a job to do that holds them accountable for more than click counts. I don't care if tweets are negative - I'm not blind to the fact we have QB and OL concerns - but some reporters try to be funny on Twitter and they think picking at scabs of Bills fans and piling on to the national narrative ultimately gets them exposure and followers and retweets. For me it's just annoying. So I'll be following closely but not adding to the drama with the in-TC tweets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 im going to probably let you down. I am sure others will post all the TC tweets, but it was pretty excruciating last year with the snarkiness tacked on my certain reporters and the conflicting info amongst them. It was just not my cup of tea. I have a couple reporters who I think are pretty objective - Sal C and Carucci - because I think they have a job to do that holds them accountable for more than click counts. I don't care if tweets are negative - I'm not blind to the fact we have QB and OL concerns - but some reporters try to be funny on Twitter and they think picking at scabs of Bills fans and piling on to the national narrative ultimately gets them exposure and followers and retweets. For me it's just annoying. So I'll be following closely but not adding to the drama with the in-TC tweets. I get that completely. No worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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