BillsFan-4-Ever Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 (edited) Check this out from today's NYT. It's long but great. It sort of supports your point, but my rejoinder would be that tons of teams in the 80s-90s were running really unsophisticated offenses too. I still think more teams run this sort of offense now than before, but it's still a limited number: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/28/sports/basketball/phil-jackson-knicks-triangle-offense-nba.html?action=click&contentCollection=Pro%20Basketball&module=RelatedCoverage®ion=Marginalia&pgtype=article . did the other teams flaunt it in the leagues face? Brady*** after the Ravens game when they ran illegal plays Maybe you should read the playbook. rulebook Edited June 28, 2015 by BillsFan-4-Ever
dave mcbride Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 (edited) did the other teams flaunt it in the leagues face? Brady*** after the Ravens game when they ran illegal plays Maybe you should read the playbook. What the heck are you even talking about?!? Jeez. Edited June 28, 2015 by dave mcbride
K-9 Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 What the heck are you even talking about?!? Jeez. I think he's referencing Brady's expertise at operating the Triangle Offense. GO BILLS!!!
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 (edited) What the heck are you even talking about?!? Jeez. oops my bad ... typo I believe you were indicating that - all teams look for an advantage. or try to cheat how many of those teams who break the rules tell other teams to read the rulebook. Edited June 28, 2015 by BillsFan-4-Ever
YoloinOhio Posted June 28, 2015 Author Posted June 28, 2015 Guess who is on the short list? @sportingnews: The FAA is investigating NFL teams for possible illegal use of drones to tape practices. http://t.co/2UbOTpIEHfhttp://t.co/RFiPFNHcNV
Sol Invictus Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Why do I feel like several years from now we are going to find out tons of things the Patriots* did to win games and Superbowls and will have their championships stripped from them like Lance Armstrong. Well one can hope that they would.
Kelly the Dog Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Why do I feel like several years from now we are going to find out tons of things the Patriots* did to win games and Superbowls and will have their championships stripped from them like Lance Armstrong. Well one can hope that they would. If we could somehow get ISIS to abduct Ernie Adams...
dave mcbride Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 oops my bad ... typo I believe you were indicating that - all teams look for an advantage. or try to cheat how many of those teams who break the rules tell other teams to read the rulebook. No prob.
ko12010 Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 Why do I feel like several years from now we are going to find out tons of things the Patriots* did to win games and Superbowls and will have their championships stripped from them like Lance Armstrong. Well one can hope that they would. If Spygate ever gets blown wide open, I could see this happening. Could actually ruin the sport. Which is why Goodell did what he did.
Mr. WEO Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 Guess who is on the short list? @sportingnews: The FAA is investigating NFL teams for possible illegal use of drones to tape practices. http://t.co/2UbOTpIEHfhttp://t.co/RFiPFNHcNV Their own practices. So what?
NoSaint Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 If Spygate ever gets blown wide open, I could see this happening. Could actually ruin the sport. Which is why Goodell did what he did. what do you think it would take to "ruin the sport"? when i see statements like that, i have to ask.
YoloinOhio Posted June 29, 2015 Author Posted June 29, 2015 Their own practices. So what? ask the FAA? They appear to have an issue with how they are doing it.
Mr. WEO Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) ask the FAA? They appear to have an issue with how they are doing it. The FAA has an issue with drones (it's not "illegal"). It's a typical federal agency--no real thought involved in widely applied regulations. The would "investigate" you if you flew one in your back yard. You seemed to be implying these teams were doing something nefarious. Instead they are simlpy taking advantage of pretty simple technology (RC toy with a camera) in a way the US gov't can't decide if they are comfortable with--without the proper "waiver". Edited June 29, 2015 by Mr. WEO
Andrew Son Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 ask the FAA? They appear to have an issue with how they are doing it. Yes, Mr. WEO should def take it up with the FAA. It's just not fair how everyone is going after the poor Patriots. Someone needs to stand up for them! Go get them WEO!
Mr. WEO Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 Yes, Mr. WEO should def take it up with the FAA. It's just not fair how everyone is going after the poor Patriots. Someone needs to stand up for them! Go get them WEO! Nothong makes it over your head, does it?
Andrew Son Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 Nothong makes it over your head, does it? nope, nothong
YoloinOhio Posted June 29, 2015 Author Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) The FAA has an issue with drones (it's not "illegal"). It's a typical federal agency--no real thought involved in widely applied regulations. The would "investigate" you if you flew one in your back yard. You seemed to be implying these teams were doing something nefarious. Instead they are simlpy taking advantage of pretty simple technology (RC toy with a camera) in a way the US gov't can't decide if they are comfortable with--without the proper "waiver". i didn't imply anything, other than the three teams didn't get the waiver as stated in the link. Edited June 29, 2015 by YoloinOhio
LB3 Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 Pippen was a great tandem player...to Jordan, no doubt. Jordan led Bulls won 3 rings and she Jordan took a year off, no rings. Pippen had a below average year. Jordan comes back and three more rings. Pippen leaves Chicago and disappears into mediocrity. The bolded shows that you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. It's laughable that you would even write something like that, unless I'm just missing sarcasm.
ko12010 Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 what do you think it would take to "ruin the sport"? when i see statements like that, i have to ask. If it were proven that a team won 4 Super Bowls, played in 2 others, and dominated a league for 15 straight years through a systematic approach to cheating, that might make a lot of people question whether being a fan is worth their time. I personally think that Goodell downplayed Spygate quite a bit, and is also pissed that the Pats** kept doing shady things after he helped out his buddy Kraft back in 2007. I think the Pats** had/have some very smart and talented people in place within their organization and roster, but I think cheating helped them dominate. Maybe they rationalized it to themselves as 'gamesmanship' or whatever, but still cheating. I think it is absolutely impossible for a team to be as dominant in a league otherwise filled with parity for a while now. 40-something and 0 against AFC opponents at Gillete in the regular season. Seriously? I don't buy it as them just being good, especially with many of the rosters they've put out over the years. Some were definitely very good, but others were decent and yet the dominance continued. What astounded me over the years were the ridiculously perfect adjustments the Pats** made seemingly EVERY 2nd half over this stretch. This has been chalked up to great coaching, and yes, I think Belicheck is incredibly intelligent and a great coach, but their adjustments were too perfect for too long. These adjustments were key to their constant success, and the video taping and signal break downs happened during half time and allowed Brady to dominate in the 2nd half because he knew exactly what to do. I think the Pats* dynasty is a combination of decent talent, intelligence, and systematic cheating that gave them an edge in every game. It's not a black and white issue. No I do not think they won every game strictly because they cheated, nor do I think they won their games through having better football players or players who played smarter. Belicheck, Brady, and Ernie Adams were a perfect storm of intelligence, will to win and push/break the rules, and a brilliant system of cheating. And obviously this is all just my opinion, so don't ask me to back any of this up. Clearly I can't. I just won't be shocked if the halftime 'adjustments' of Spygate come out one day, plus the possible misuse of radio signals aiding Brady on the field.
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