jimmy10 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 He did a hell of a lot of damage before committing suicide. :| His team also had a good run of 12-13 years while doing some pretty horrible things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 ESPN's Lester Munson seems to think NFLPA and Brady have almost no chance. http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/12888612/tom-brady-nflpa-cannot-win-appeal-filed-deflategate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 ESPN's Lester Munson seems to think NFLPA and Brady have almost no chance. http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/12888612/tom-brady-nflpa-cannot-win-appeal-filed-deflategate Good find Hokie13. I still don't understand how anyone would think Brady had any real chance at winning the appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Good find Hokie13. I still don't understand how anyone would think Brady had any real chance at winning the appeal. It was speculation based on who he hired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 @JasonLaCanfora The NFL has just rejected the NFLPA's formal request for Roger Goodell to recuse himself from the Tom Brady appeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 This is going to go to some court somewhere, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 the CBA clearly gives the Commissioner the right to proceed the way he is. no federal court is going to over turn a collectively bargained agreement. the NFLPA is pissing in the wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 the CBA clearly gives the Commissioner the right to proceed the way he is. no federal court is going to over turn a collectively bargained agreement. the NFLPA is pissing in the wind. With a wind chill of -10 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 the CBA clearly gives the Commissioner the right to proceed the way he is. no federal court is going to over turn a collectively bargained agreement. the NFLPA is pissing in the wind. Maybe. Maybe not. I keep seeing references to this ruling. Of course I am not well versed in this type of thing, but wouldn't this set a precedent that maybe a Massachusetts court might follow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Maybe. Maybe not. I keep seeing references to this ruling. Of course I am not well versed in this type of thing, but wouldn't this set a precedent that maybe a Massachusetts court might follow? well for starters that former rams equip manager is NOT or never been a member of the NFLPA and is not under the CBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 well for starters that former rams equip manager is NOT or never been a member of the NFLPA and is not under the CBA. so... the Deflator and his side kick ball rubber can sue Kraft for an unjust firing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) so... the Deflator and his side kick ball rubber can sue Kraft for an unjust firing? absolutely......doesn't mean they will win Massachusetts At-Will Employment Rule The employment-at-will doctrine relies on the proposition that employers and employees alike are and should be free to make choices as they see fit. The doctrine holds that either party can enter or end a working relationship at any time, for any reason, and with or without advance notice. http://www.hkwg.com/Employment-Massachusetts-At-Will-Rule.html Edited May 23, 2015 by papazoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 6m6 minutes ago "Free Tom Brady" rally purportedly scheduled for Sunday outside Gillette Stadium http://wp.me/p14QSB-9MjM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 6m6 minutes ago "Free Tom Brady" rally purportedly scheduled for Sunday outside Gillette Stadium http://wp.me/p14QSB-9MjM The amount of suffering he must be facing sitting in his 20 thousand square foot home with a rich super model is taking its toll on his mental state. Edited May 23, 2015 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 6m6 minutes ago "Free Tom Brady" rally purportedly scheduled for Sunday outside Gillette Stadium http://wp.me/p14QSB-9MjM #RichWhitePrivilegedLivesMatter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 23, 2015 Author Share Posted May 23, 2015 ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 6m6 minutes ago "Free Tom Brady" rally purportedly scheduled for Sunday outside Gillette Stadium http://wp.me/p14QSB-9MjM 'merica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Kiko go Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 (edited) Maybe. Maybe not. I keep seeing references to this ruling. Of course I am not well versed in this type of thing, but wouldn't this set a precedent that maybe a Massachusetts court might follow? A few quick thoughts on that ruling. As to whether another court would follow that ruling, the first thing to recognize is that no courts outside of Missouri (or a federal court hearing a Missouri dispute) are obligated to follow that decision (you probably already had a sense of that, but I just wanted to start from the beginning). So, the first question is whether another court would follow the Missouri decision. There's a tendency in the judiciary--not necessarily a good tendency, but a tendency nonetheless--to give more weight to decisions of courts that are considered to be more reputable than other courts. To make a sweeping generalization, the more "reputable" courts tend to be in locations with a rich and respected legal history--New York, Massachusetts, California, D.C, those sorts of places. The short of it is that another court may be less inclined to follow this decision simply because it came from the Missouri Supreme Court. Another factor bearing on the amount of weight another court would give to this decision is how well-reasoned the decision is. Frankly, the Missouri court's decision is a little light on reasoning--the court only takes about 250 words to come to the conclusion that the Commissioner can't serve as the arbitrator, citing only one other Missouri Supreme Court case for authority that in turn cites no authority of its own: "Based on the facts of the present case, the terms in the contract designating the commissioner, an employee of the team owners, as the sole arbitrator with unfettered discretion to establish the rules for arbitration are unconscionable and, therefore, unenforceable. The constitution and bylaws provide that the 'League' consists of the team owners. Under the constitution and bylaws, the league 'shall select and employ' the commissioner and set his or her term of employment and compensation. The constitution and bylaws also provide unequivocally that the commissioner is employed by the league; i.e., the team owners. In effect, then, the commissioner is required to arbitrate claims against his employers. In Vincent, this Court found unconscionable a provision in an arbitration contract between a home builder and home purchasers that designated the president of a home builders association as the sole selector of the arbitrator because it found the president of the home builders association was 'an individual in a position of bias.' 194 S.W.3d at 859. Like the president of the home builders association in Vincent, the designated arbitrator, the commissioner, is an individual in a position of bias as the arbitrator. Additionally, due to the lack of any terms in the employment contract or in any document incorporated into the contract, the contract appoints the commissioner as not only the arbitrator but as the person who controls virtually every aspect of the arbitration from establishing the rules and procedures to making the final decision. Those provisions in the arbitration agreement are unconscionable. Id." Presumably, this isn't the first time that the Commissioner's impartiality has been challenged (or that similar challenges were raised in analogous contexts, like arbitrations in other major sporting leagues), so it's a little troubling that the Missouri court neither cites nor discusses any other decisions under similar circumstances. On the other hand, from the little I know about arbitration agreements, courts are sensitive to ensuring that the arbitrator who will preside over the hearing is not biased toward one of the parties. Here, there's some obvious problems with having the Commissioner, who admitted that he was involved in the decision to suspend Brady, preside over Brady's appeal of that very decision. In fact, the Commissioner's relationship to Brady's appeal is much more direct than in the Missouri case, where the Commissioner would have been presiding over an employment dispute between an employee of the Rams and the club, not a dispute involving the league itself. Edited May 24, 2015 by Go Kiko go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Kind of want to give Roger kudos for having the balls to do this. He knows it will cause wailing and gnashing from all sides, but I think ultimately he's actually pissed now and wants to look Brady in the face and dare him to keep lying. He then can give him a big f u if he doesn't like the way he responds. I have been thinking on this. Goodell is going to focus all the Patriots wrong doings on the Guy with the attitude. Tom. how dare ye Thomas of Brady ! i hope he screws himself right into the wall. I loathe Brady right down to his pedicure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Get R Done Rog put this to bed and punish the liars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 @AlbertBreer As @AdamSchefter said, Tom Brady's appeal is slated to begin on June 23. Union's request to have Roger Goodell recused is still pending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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