/dev/null Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 On a somewhat related note, on the ride back to the office today I'm Bad was on the radio. During the opening music, a co-worker said that the Weird Al version (I'm Fat) was better. After the first lyrics Your Butt is Mine I remarked that Michael Jackson saying Your Butt is Mine probably means something totally different than when it was first written
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 On a somewhat related note, on the ride back to the office today I'm Bad was on the radio. During the opening music, a co-worker said that the Weird Al version (I'm Fat) was better. After the first lyrics Your Butt is Mine I remarked that Michael Jackson saying Your Butt is Mine probably means something totally different than when it was first written Weird al was a crazy genious of the music. Amish paradise? Brilliant. The night santa went crazy? Awesome.
Chef Jim Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 I didn't listen to the whole debate but did he mention anything about his plan for worker owned co-ops or has he abandoned that idea?
unbillievable Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 If you earn money below the poverty line, then the government gives you enough money to move above it, are you still considered living in poverty?
/dev/null Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 If you earn money below the poverty line, then the government gives you enough money to move above it, are you still considered living in poverty? It's not fair that half the country lives below the median income
keepthefaith Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 It's not fair that half the country lives below the median income LMAO! Wouldn't it be easier if we just arrested and incarcerated the top 1/10th of 1 percenters? That would solve the problem.
B-Large Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) I didn't listen to the whole debate but did he mention anything about his plan for worker owned co-ops or has he abandoned that idea?there are already co-ps in place around the country, I don't think there is an barrier to starting one. It sounds great in theory, but it's gotta be impossible to get stuff done and make decisions in those situations. Even with partnerships, half the profit twice the risk... I haven't seen anything further from Sanders on this since summer. My guess is co-ops suffer from lack of credible funding sources to get started, and he would want to change that... But just like the govt gets into mortgages for people who are poor risk, you have to think banks feel the same about leaderless cooperatives. Edited October 20, 2015 by B-Large
Chef Jim Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 there are already co-ps in place around the country, I don't think there is an barrier to starting one. It sounds great in theory, but it's gotta be impossible to get stuff done and make decisions in those situations. Even with partnerships, half the profit twice the risk... I haven't seen anything further from Sanders on this since summer. My guess is co-ops suffer from lack of credible funding sources to get started, and he would want to change that... But just like the govt gets into mortgages for people who are poor risk, you have to think banks feel the same about leaderless cooperatives. If a bunch of people want to start a business and create it in a co-op fashion I say "have at it!" What does the government have to do with this?
B-Large Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 If a bunch of people want to start a business and create it in a co-op fashion I say "have at it!" What does the government have to do with this? My guess, provide funding too or for...
blzrul Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 https://www.laprogressive.com/republicans-for-sanders/ Bernie Sanders is pretty much what he's always been. He comes from a state that has a large conservative population, and gets a good portion of Republican votes. He appeals to a broad range of people because his words and actions focus on what's important to the "common man". He's not ga-ga over gun control. He thinks we have better things to spend our money on that starting endless wars. He promotes caring for our veterans, our teachers, our children. Can't argue with any of that. It's nice to have someone who is "pro" something than "anti-everything" which seems prevalent. I will hold my nose and vote for Hillary over any of the current GOP clown car residents, but I wonder about Sanders' ability to win an election not because of his policies but because in this ignorant, shallow country called America he looks like a crazy person sometimes. Or that's how he will be portrayed. Of course, compared to Trump he would appear sedate. Also consider the fact that people love to label and get invested in labels. You drive on a road, call a cop, send your kid to public school, have a soldier fight for you, rely on an air traffic controller to get your plane up and down safely - socialism. Like it or not. Get a grip. I I'd have preferred to see Elizabeth Warren run myself.
DC Tom Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 If a bunch of people want to start a business and create it in a co-op fashion I say "have at it!" What does the government have to do with this? Sanders wants the government to provide interest-free loans to workers to buy out their places of work through ESOPs and turn them in to co-ops. Of course, those "loans" will end up being "grants," since since it's socially unfair to expect the workers at the workers' co-ops to to pay back their government loans. So basically giving out money to people to form LLCs.
Chef Jim Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) Sanders wants the government to provide interest-free loans to workers to buy out their places of work through ESOPs and turn them in to co-ops. Of course, those "loans" will end up being "grants," since since it's socially unfair to expect the workers at the workers' co-ops to to pay back their government loans. So basically giving out money to people to form LLCs. Ah yes because loaning people money in this country always turns out well. Edited October 20, 2015 by Chef Jim
DC Tom Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Ah yes because loaning people money in the country always turns out well. But this time you're not loaning money to companies. You're loaning it to workers. To start co-ops. That are companies. So it's completely different.
Chef Jim Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 But this time you're not loaning money to companies. You're loaning it to workers. To start co-ops. That are companies. So it's completely different. It's always different this time.
DC Tom Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 It's always different this time. Yeah...I just had a conversation with my wife about the CFPB's new form for real estate sales. They replaced a one-page form with a twenty-page form, and mandated that any software used for data input for this form duplicate the paper form exactly, and didn't provide any instructions for the form..."But this'll solve a lot of problems! This time it's different." And this time it is different. In 20 years in this industry, it is THE most !@#$ed-up thing I've ever seen.
bbb Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 Every single government form or online thing is so friggin non user friendly, it's ridiculous.
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