Magox Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 I don't know how they come up with that stuff - you have to be living under a rock to be unaware of the dire economic conditions in Greece. Italy is doing better, but they're still hurting. I've been to Spain numerous times, and I can tell you from personal experience that their economy, while improving very slightly over recent months, is still deep in the crapper. Madrid's middle class is comparable in their standard of living to our welfare class. I've found that most of the people here who tout European-style socialism haven't been there to experience it for themselves. So now it's confirmed or certainly implied, that some of the liberals that frequent PPP want to model themselves after countries that either have structurally extremely high unemployment with a grim history and prospects of growth and employment or countries that have the populations of the size of Indiana, which are disproportionately financed through natural resources relative to the U.S. Never mind the fact that they have virtually no responsibility to the world to assist them in need via humanitarian or military missions, which therefore they have tiny expenditures in military spending because of their pacifist nature. Let's not forget that these same countries either had no desire to defeat the Nazi's or Russians or simply didn't have the military might to even produce a speed bump vs. their aggressors. To somehow to try to credibly make any sort of argument that those economies offer more opportunities than the U.S falls flat in the face of reality. Only bozo partisans would attempt to do such a thing.
Azalin Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 Only bozo partisans would attempt to do such a thing. Of which we have more than our fair share.
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 So now it's confirmed or certainly implied, that some of the liberals that frequent PPP want to model themselves after countries that either have structurally extremely high unemployment with a grim history and prospects of growth and employment or countries that have the populations of the size of Indiana, which are disproportionately financed through natural resources relative to the U.S. Never mind the fact that they have virtually no responsibility to the world to assist them in need via humanitarian or military missions, which therefore they have tiny expenditures in military spending because of their pacifist nature. Let's not forget that these same countries either had no desire to defeat the Nazi's or Russians or simply didn't have the military might to even produce a speed bump vs. their aggressors. To somehow to try to credibly make any sort of argument that those economies offer more opportunities than the U.S falls flat in the face of reality. Only bozo partisans would attempt to do such a thing. I, for one, loved the attempt to equate standard of living with median wealth and internet speed.
Azalin Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 I, for one, loved the attempt to equate standard of living with median wealth and internet speed. I'd like to know where they were when they experienced this superior internet speed. I'm sure there are some pretty decent places around Europe to connect, but again, by my experiences in Europe I found the broadband speeds to be rather lacking. Try streaming a movie in your hotel room or surfing using a public hotspot some time.
IDBillzFan Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 So now it's confirmed or certainly implied, that some of the liberals that frequent PPP want to model themselves after countries that either have structurally extremely high unemployment with a grim history and prospects of growth and employment or countries that have the populations of the size of Indiana, which are disproportionately financed through natural resources relative to the U.S. I'll say it again...one of the funniest things to come from Obama running the country is when you call a Democrat a socialist, they've gone from calling you a racist to arguing why socialism is what America needs because...SWEDEN!
Magox Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 You can't have an honest debate with people who post vapid without context FB-like meme charts.
birdog1960 Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 I'd like to know where they were when they experienced this superior internet speed. I'm sure there are some pretty decent places around Europe to connect, but again, by my experiences in Europe I found the broadband speeds to be rather lacking. Try streaming a movie in your hotel room or surfing using a public hotspot some time. you must stay in shi##y hotels
Azalin Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 you must stay in shi##y hotels Blow it out your tailpipe. They may not be 5-star, but I always stay in nice places.
Nanker Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 It would have to be through the Capital Gains tax. Buffet's annual salary has remained at 100k for a long time. Maybe create marginal rates for Capital Gains. The rates on Capital Gains would have to be lower that the rates on ordinary income. Otherwise, the Capital Gains tax would be a disincentive to investing and bad for the economy. But he pays himself. He could pay himself more - which would put him in a higher tax bracket, but then he'd lose the talking point of paying less tax (% rate) than his secretary. But no, he takes most of his money in capital gains, now why do you think he does that? Any ideas? I mean he's so interested in giving the Feds more tax dollars and all. Hmmmmmm. I won't try to put words in your mouth, because that's a cheap trick, so I'm asking, do you think something should be done about tax shelters? Or are you advocating a race to the lowest tax rate, in competition with these tax shelters? Or, something else? Glad you agree with me about the DoD. See the note above. The Flannel-Mouthed-Wizard-of-Omaha shelters most of his income. Why does he do that when he could easily pay the government more of his money? By looking at those charts, just makes me want to pack up my bags and move to Greece, France, Spain, Italy and Portugal. Those places must be a magnet for immigration and opportunities. While you're there, have a baby in each place and then inquire about their citizenship.
IDBillzFan Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 Blow it out your tailpipe. They may not be 5-star, but I always stay in nice places. Typical white privilege bullschitt. Schitty hotels with crappy wifi are just not good enough for you entitled white pricks.
Alaska Darin Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 It's a good thing Sanders is new to Washington and doesn't have any record to speak of. It's also a good thing the Executive controls military spending and is the only one who can regularly offer reforms that would make DOD more efficient and less costly. Dear Sanders supporters: you're retarded.
birdog1960 Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 Blow it out your tailpipe. They may not be 5-star, but I always stay in nice places. we facetime with family in several European countries including Portugal on a regular basis. their internet speed is much less of a problem than ours in rural virginia
Magox Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 we facetime with family in several European countries including Portugal on a regular basis. their internet speed is much less of a problem than ours in rural virginia And your point?
birdog1960 Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) And your point? " my experiences in Europe I found the broadband speeds to be rather lacking. Try streaming a movie in your hotel room or surfing using a public hotspot some time." try to keep up. Edited August 20, 2015 by birdog1960
IDBillzFan Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 And your point? People in rural virginia live in schitty hotels.
birdog1960 Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 People in rural virginia live in schitty hotels. the expected conclusion from your own unique brand of pretzel logic.
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 the expected conclusion from your own unique brand of pretzel logic. Can you think of any reasons why internet speeds in rural east butt!@#$ Virginia might be slower than those in or near a metropolitan area in a first world nation?
DC Tom Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 we facetime with family in several European countries including Portugal on a regular basis. their internet speed is much less of a problem than ours in rural virginia Well, hell, I'm sold. I'm all for European-style social democracy if it'll reduce buffering of House of Cards.
birdog1960 Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 Can you think of any reasons why internet speeds in rural east butt!@#$ Virginia might be slower than those in or near a metropolitan area in a first world nation? last I knew I lived in the us of a. I thought we were comparing us to European internet speeds, non?
Chef Jim Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 And your point? I'm an elitist a-hole that has family in several European countries. Well traveled and well read are two distinct advantages that liberals have over us Archie comic reading home bodies. last I knew I lived in the us of a. I thought we were comparing us to European internet speeds, non? No we're discussing important things.
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