Do We Have Any Bernie Sanders Supporters Among Us?

[birdog1960]

Going into last week I didn't really know much about the various presidential candidates' positions or track records in the issues, but I read Pride & Prejudice over the weekend so I feel like I'm up to speed now.

i like emma better. "badly done, emma"

 

Edited July 26, 2015 by birdog1960

[Very wide right]

firstly, he's been taught and has taught others how to examine data and information by a systematic method, found over the centuries to be effective. he knows the classics which are called that for a reason. he's travelled extensively so that he's seen alternative cultural norms and customs. he knows history. he knows scientific method. he knows how to read and write well. he understands math well enough to understand basic physics. he's studied logic. as far as media, i suspect he uses a wide variety of sources but i've never asked. he seems to know and understand opposing viewpoints to his own.

And wouldn't know how to add oil to an engine to save his life.

[Deranged Rhino]

And wouldn't know how to add oil to an engine to save his life.

[OCinBuffalo]

Jesus F'ing Christ....there goes my perfectly good Dr. Pepper.

 

I am still giggling as I type this. I have no idea why I think this is so funny, but I can't stop laughing. It's almost unnerving. It's like the guy is warning the town that the Normans are about to attack, but instead it's an asshat!

 

Also, I am a huge Bernie Sanders supporter in one aspect: Get the crazy out in the open. Let everybody hear it once and for all. Enough of Obama's veiled, not-socialism socialism. My dream is the far left coming out of the closet and feeling free to tell everyone exactly who they are and what they believe.

 

Because then? We can shove them back into that damn closet, and permanently nail the door shut.

 

Right now, I feel like the country is tanking, no different than the Sabres. We are doing it on purpose, so that Obama's failure is so complete, nobody will ever even suggest we nominate another far-left wingnut for 40 years.

[Magox]

 

 

Also, I am a huge Bernie Sanders supporter in one aspect: Get the crazy out in the open. Let everybody hear it once and for all. Enough of Obama's veiled, not-socialism socialism. My dream is the far left coming out of the closet and feeling free to tell everyone exactly who they are and what they believe.

 

Because then? We can shove them back into that damn closet, and permanently nail the door shut.

 

 

 

 

Good stuff, OC!

[birdog1960]

Jesus F'ing Christ....there goes my perfectly good Dr. Pepper.

 

I am still giggling as I type this. I have no idea why I think this is so funny, but I can't stop laughing. It's almost unnerving. It's like the guy is warning the town that the Normans are about to attack, but instead it's an asshat!

 

Also, I am a huge Bernie Sanders supporter in one aspect: Get the crazy out in the open. Let everybody hear it once and for all. Enough of Obama's veiled, not-socialism socialism. My dream is the far left coming out of the closet and feeling free to tell everyone exactly who they are and what they believe.

 

Because then? We can shove them back into that damn closet, and permanently nail the door shut.

 

Right now, I feel like the country is tanking, no different than the Sabres. We are doing it on purpose, so that Obama's failure is so complete, nobody will ever even suggest we nominate another far-left wingnut for 40 years.

maybe you should try less feeling and more facts: http://www.occupydemocrats.com/the-infographic-that-destroys-all-republican-lies-about-obamas-economy/

[Magox]

maybe you should try less feeling and more facts: http://www.occupydemocrats.com/the-infographic-that-destroys-all-republican-lies-about-obamas-economy/

 

Why not just post a FB meme? You know those meme's that sound really cool lacking in any sort of context. The fact that you posted an occupy democrats link says more about you than anything else.

Edited July 28, 2015 by Magox

[Dorkington]

Here you go:

 

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/04/obamas-numbers-april-2015-update/

 

Sources are at the bottom.

 

The July update:

 

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/obamas-numbers-july-2015-update/

Edited July 28, 2015 by Dorkington

[IDBillzFan]

maybe you should try less feeling and more facts: http://www.occupydemocrats.com/the-infographic-that-destroys-all-republican-lies-about-obamas-economy/

 

Uhhh, you do know that the unemployment rate is that low because almost 100M people have literally left the work force, right?

 

And you do know that 45% increase in food stamp recipients is a really BAD economic indicator?

 

And you know that a 108% increase in debt held by the public is a really BAD economic indicator?

 

And you do know that you can get FactCheck to make a chart about anything, like this one, which indicates the number of newly insured based on "administration estimates" but number of uninsured by a specific survey?

 

And another progressive economic indicator...weren't there only 30M uninsured when ACA was passed? How did that number got to 37M a full five years after the law was passed?

 

But hey...it's fact check.org, so it must be true.

[Chef Jim]

maybe you should try less feeling and more facts: http://www.occupydemocrats.com/the-infographic-that-destroys-all-republican-lies-about-obamas-economy/

 

So what has Obama done to achieve those numbers? Be specific.

[GG]

 

Because then? We can shove them back into that damn closet, and permanently nail the door shut.

 

 

Soviet Union has been dead for 25 years and there's still no shortage of people proclaiming that it failed because it wasn't implemented properly.

[birdog1960]

 

Uhhh, you do know that the unemployment rate is that low because almost 100M people have literally left the work force, right?

 

And you do know that 45% increase in food stamp recipients is a really BAD economic indicator?

 

And you know that a 108% increase in debt held by the public is a really BAD economic indicator?

 

And you do know that you can get FactCheck to make a chart about anything, like this one, which indicates the number of newly insured based on "administration estimates" but number of uninsured by a specific survey?

 

And another progressive economic indicator...weren't there only 30M uninsured when ACA was passed? How did that number got to 37M a full five years after the law was passed?

 

But hey...it's fact check.org, so it must be true.

not being classicly trained, you probably didn't know to check the sources. so here you go. a sampling:

 

Bureau of Labor Statistics. “Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the Current Employment Statistics survey (National); Total Nonfarm Employment, Seasonally Adjusted.” Data extracted 2 Jul 2015.

Bureau of Labor Statistics. “Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey; Unemployment Rate, Seasonally Adjusted.” Data extracted Data extracted 2 Jul 2015.

Bureau of Labor Statistics. “Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey; Number Unemployed for 27 Weeks & Over, Seasonally Adjusted.” Data extracted 2 Jul 2015.

Bureau of Labor Statistics. “Job Openings and Labor Turnover Survey: Job Openings, Seasonally Adjusted” Data extracted 7 Jul 2015.

Bureau of Labor Statistics. “Private sector establishment births and deaths, seasonally adjusted.” 29 Apr 2015.

Bureau of Labor Statistics. “Consumer Price Index – All Urban Consumers.” Data extracted Data extracted 2 Jul 2015.

Bureau of Labor Statistics. “Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the Current Employment Statistics survey (National); Average Weekly Earnings of All Employees, 1982-1984 Dollars.” Data extracted 2 Jul 2015.

U.S. Energy Information Administration. “Weekly U.S. Regular All Formulations Retail Gasoline Prices (Dollars per Gallon).” Data extracted 7 Jul 2015.

U.S. Department of Agriculture, Food and Nutrition Service. “Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (Data as of Dec 5, 2014).” Data extracted 2 Jul 2015.

U.S. Census Bureau. “Time Series: Seasonally Adjusted Home Ownership Rate.” Data extracted 2 Jul 2015.

Federal Reserve Bank of St Louis. “Corporate Profits After Tax (without IVA and CCAdj) (CP).” Data extracted 2 Jul 2015.

Google Finance. “S&P 500.” Historical prices. Data extracted 7 Jul 2015.

Google Finance. “Dow Jones Industrial Average.” Historical prices. Data extracted 7 Jul 2015.

Google Finance. “NASDAQ Composite.” Historical prices. Data extracted 7 Jul 2015.

U.S. Treasury. “The Debt to the Penny and Who Holds It.” 3 Jul 2015. Data extracted 7 Jul 2015.

Congressional Budget Office. “March 2015 Baseline” from “Updated Budget Projections: 2015 to 2025” 9 Mar 2015

 

when's the last time fox news published the sources for its stories?

 

So what has Obama done to achieve those numbers? Be specific.

please tell me that if the numbers were as bad overall as they are actually good, you wouldn't blame obama for them.

Edited July 28, 2015 by birdog1960

[reddogblitz]

not being classicly trained, you probably didn't know to check the sources. so here you go. a sampling:

 

Bureau of Labor Statistics. “Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the Current Employment Statistics survey (National); Total Nonfarm Employment, Seasonally Adjusted.” Data extracted 2 Jul 2015.

Bureau of Labor Statistics. “Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey; Unemployment Rate, Seasonally Adjusted.” Data extracted Data extracted 2 Jul 2015.

Bureau of Labor Statistics. “Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey; Number Unemployed for 27 Weeks & Over, Seasonally Adjusted.” Data extracted 2 Jul 2015.

Bureau of Labor Statistics. “Job Openings and Labor Turnover Survey: Job Openings, Seasonally Adjusted” Data extracted 7 Jul 2015.

Bureau of Labor Statistics. “Private sector establishment births and deaths, seasonally adjusted.” 29 Apr 2015.

Bureau of Labor Statistics. “Consumer Price Index – All Urban Consumers.” Data extracted Data extracted 2 Jul 2015.

Bureau of Labor Statistics. “Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the Current Employment Statistics survey (National); Average Weekly Earnings of All Employees, 1982-1984 Dollars.” Data extracted 2 Jul 2015.

U.S. Energy Information Administration. “Weekly U.S. Regular All Formulations Retail Gasoline Prices (Dollars per Gallon).” Data extracted 7 Jul 2015.

U.S. Department of Agriculture, Food and Nutrition Service. “Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (Data as of Dec 5, 2014).” Data extracted 2 Jul 2015.

U.S. Census Bureau. “Time Series: Seasonally Adjusted Home Ownership Rate.” Data extracted 2 Jul 2015.

Federal Reserve Bank of St Louis. “Corporate Profits After Tax (without IVA and CCAdj) (CP).” Data extracted 2 Jul 2015.

Google Finance. “S&P 500.” Historical prices. Data extracted 7 Jul 2015.

Google Finance. “Dow Jones Industrial Average.” Historical prices. Data extracted 7 Jul 2015.

Google Finance. “NASDAQ Composite.” Historical prices. Data extracted 7 Jul 2015.

U.S. Treasury. “The Debt to the Penny and Who Holds It.” 3 Jul 2015. Data extracted 7 Jul 2015.

Congressional Budget Office. “March 2015 Baseline” from “Updated Budget Projections: 2015 to 2025” 9 Mar 2015

 

Come on birddog1960, don't try to confuse us with facts.

[Chef Jim]

 

please tell me that if the numbers were as bad overall as they are actually good, you wouldn't blame obama for them.

 

No because I'm not a fool that assumes one person has the power and ability to move all those numbers up or down. However you think he does so because of that would you mind answering my question on how his policies directly influenced those numbers. Be specific.

[birdog1960]

 

No because I'm not a fool that assumes one person has the power and ability to move all those numbers up or down. However you think he does so because of that would you mind answering my question on how his policies directly influenced those numbers. Be specific.

perhaps you should be arguing with oc since he blames his feelings of the country tanking on the big o. i just rebutted him. maybe you should do the same.

[GG]

 

Come on birddog1960, don't try to confuse us with facts.

 

 

Like this one?

[Magox]

 

 

Like this one?

 

He don't like those kinda facts.

perhaps you should be arguing with oc since he blames his feelings of the country tanking on the big o. i just rebutted him. maybe you should do the same.

You didn't rebut ****....All you did was post essentially what is a fb meme for left wing retards.

[Dorkington]

 

 

Like this one?

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/03/declining-labor-participation-rates/

[birdog1960]

 

 

Like this one?

there's a surprise. the downward trend began in 2008 when the big banks and financial industry caused the economy to collapse.

[Dorkington]

there's a surprise. the downward trend began in 2008 when the big banks and financial industry caused the economy to collapse.

Actually the decline started earlier due to other factors, and combined with changing economic conditions. Like usual this isn't a "rah rah Obama" or a "hah hah Obama" moment.