JP-era Posted February 11, 2005 Author Posted February 11, 2005 Actually....and I am basing this off of the possibility that Jonas Jennings might come cheaper then a Orlando Pace type....would rather: a. Resign Jonas b. Go out and get a quality free agent Left Guard To me the Left Guard position is a much bigger weakness then Left Tackle (assuming we resign Jonas) If we sign a Pace type then get stuck with another year of tucker/L. Smith at Left Guard...I dont see that much of an improvement 235719[/snapback] Agreed, I we looking at it like we could land studs for BOTH positions. 12mill is BEFORE cutting Prioleau, trading Travis, or any action with Drew. Even so, 12 mill should get the job done. Why cant it be both?
John from Riverside Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 We will have to see.....TD is very thrifty with his money...he didn't overpay for a O Linemen last year and still landed Villy
JP-era Posted February 11, 2005 Author Posted February 11, 2005 We will have to see.....TD is very thrifty with his money...he didn't overpay for a O Linemen last year and still landed Villy 235734[/snapback] Thats true, yet no name dropping from you? Persoannly Im really fond of Andruzzi from NE. Heres an ESPN Insiders list of available FA's and ratings: Should this start a new post? Player Pos. FA Type Ht. Wt. Exp. '04 Team '05 Team Grade Comment Orlando Pace OT UFA 6-7 325 8 Rams 95 Expert's Take Walter Jones OT UFA 6-5 315 8 Seahawks 92 Expert's Take Jonas Jennings OT UFA 6-3 325 4 Bills 76 Expert's Take Stockar McDougle OT UFA 6-6 335 5 Lions 75 Expert's Take Ryan Diem OT UFA 6-6 331 4 Colts 72 Expert's Take Victor Riley OT UFA 6-5 340 7 Saints 70 Expert's Take Floyd Womack OT UFA 6-4 333 4 Seahawks 70 Expert's Take Kareem McKenzie OT UFA 6-6 327 4 NY Jets 68 Expert's Take Bob Whitfield OT UFA 6-5 310 13 Jaguars 67 Expert's Take Brad Bedell OT UFA 6-4 306 4 Packers 65 Expert's Take Paul Zukauskas OT UFA 6-5 320 4 Browns 65 Expert's Take Ethan Brooks OT UFA 6-6 330 7 Ravens 64 Expert's Take Jason Mathews OT UFA 6-5 285 11 Titans 64 Expert's Take Marcus Spears OT UFA 6-4 320 11 Texans 63 Expert's Take Barrett Brooks OT UFA 6-4 325 9 Steelers 62 Expert's Take Marcus Price OT UFA 6-4 310 6 Bills 62 Expert's Take Chad Slaughter OT UFA 6-8 340 4 Raiders 62 Expert's Take Matt Willig OT UFA 6-8 315 13 Panthers 62 Expert's Take Adrian Klemm OT UFA 6-3 312 5 Patriots 61 Expert's Take Damion Cook OT UFA 6-5 330 3 Browns 60 Expert's Take Player Pos. FA Type Ht. Wt. Exp. '04 Team '05 Team Grade Comment Ed Ellis OT UFA 6-5 325 7 NY Giants 60 Expert's Take Kenyatta Jones OT UFA 6-3 307 3 Redskins 60 Expert's Take Ian Allen OT RFA 6-4 310 3 Eagles N/A Tom Ashworth OT RFA 6-6 305 3 Patriots N/A Kevin Barry OT RFA 6-4 335 3 Packers N/A Chad Beasley OT RFA 6-5 300 3 Browns N/A Jerome Davis OT RFA 6-5 300 3 49ers N/A Steve Edwards OT RFA 6-5 330 2 Bears N/A Joaquin Gonzalez OT RFA 6-5 315 3 Browns N/A Brandon Gorin OT RFA 6-6 308 3 Patriots N/A Adam Haayer OT RFA 6-6 308 3 Vikings N/A Dave Kadela OT RFA 6-6 304 2 Panthers N/A Kyle Kosier OT RFA 6-5 309 3 49ers N/A Victor Rogers OT RFA 6-6 331 3 Lions N/A Kevin Shaffer OT RFA 6-5 290 3 Falcons N/A Kurt Vollers OT RFA 6-7 300 3 Cowboys N/A And for the guards: Marco Rivera OG UFA 6-4 307 9 Packers 76 Expert's Take Cosey Coleman OG UFA 6-4 322 5 Buccaneers 74 Expert's Take Ben Hamilton OG UFA 6-4 283 4 Broncos 74 Expert's Take Jermane Mayberry OG UFA 6-4 325 9 Eagles 72 Expert's Take Bennie Anderson OG UFA 6-5 345 4 Ravens 70 Expert's Take Joe Andruzzi OG UFA 6-3 312 8 Patriots 70 Expert's Take Rick DeMulling OG UFA 6-4 304 4 Colts 70 Expert's Take Roberto Garza OG UFA 6-2 296 4 Falcons 70 Expert's Take Chris Gray OG UFA 6-4 308 12 Seahawks 70 Expert's Take Casey Rabach OG UFA 6-4 301 4 Ravens 70 Expert's Take Oliver Ross OG UFA 6-5 322 6 Steelers 69 Expert's Take David Dixon OG UFA 6-5 343 11 Vikings 68 Expert's Take Matt O'Dwyer OG UFA 6-5 305 10 Buccaneers 67 Expert's Take Cooper Carlisle OG UFA 6-5 295 5 Broncos 66 Expert's Take Tom Nutten OG UFA 6-5 280 7 Rams 66 Expert's Take Keydrick Vincent OG UFA 6-5 325 4 Steelers 66 Expert's Take Bob Hallen OG UFA 6-3 305 7 Chargers 65 Expert's Take Cameron Spikes OG UFA 6-4 313 6 Cardinals 65 Expert's Take Chris Dishman OG UFA 6-3 375 8 Rams 64 Expert's Take Rich Tylski OG UFA 6-4 305 7 Panthers 64 Expert's Take Player Pos. FA Type Ht. Wt. Exp. '04 Team '05 Team Grade Comment Darnell Alford OG UFA 6-4 325 4 Rams 63 Expert's Take Aaron Gibson OG UFA 6-6 370 6 Bears 63 Expert's Take Ray Brown OG UFA 6-5 318 19 Redskins 62 Expert's Take Steve Herndon OG UFA 6-4 292 4 Falcons 61 Expert's Take Brent Smith OG UFA 6-5 305 8 NY Jets 60 Expert's Take Derrick Fletcher OG UFA 6-6 350 4 Jaguars 57 Expert's Take Martin Bibla OG RFA 6-3 306 3 Falcons N/A Wilbert Brown OG RFA 6-2 320 4 Patriots N/A Milford Brown OG RFA 6-4 331 3 Texans N/A Melvin Fowler OG RFA 6-3 305 3 Browns N/A Jonathan Goodwin OG RFA 6-3 318 3 NY Jets N/A Eric Heitmann OG RFA 6-3 305 3 49ers N/A Tyrone Hopson OG RFA 6-2 294 3 Lions N/A Terrence Metcalf OG RFA 6-3 318 3 Bears N/A Michael Moore OG RFA 6-2 318 3 Falcons N/A Stephen Neal OG RFA 6-4 305 3 Patriots N/A Mike Pucillo OG RFA 6-4 311 3 Bills N/A
Rico Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 Thats true, yet no name dropping from you? Persoannly Im really fond of Andruzzi from NE. Heres an ESPN Insiders list of available FA's and ratings: Should this start a new post? Player Pos. FA Type Ht. Wt. Exp. '04 Team '05 Team Grade Comment Orlando Pace OT UFA 6-7 325 8 Rams 95 Expert's Take Walter Jones OT UFA 6-5 315 8 Seahawks 92 Expert's Take Jonas Jennings OT UFA 6-3 325 4 Bills 76 Expert's Take Stockar McDougle OT UFA 6-6 335 5 Lions 75 Expert's Take Ryan Diem OT UFA 6-6 331 4 Colts 72 Expert's Take Victor Riley OT UFA 6-5 340 7 Saints 70 Expert's Take Floyd Womack OT UFA 6-4 333 4 Seahawks 70 Expert's Take Kareem McKenzie OT UFA 6-6 327 4 NY Jets 68 Expert's Take Bob Whitfield OT UFA 6-5 310 13 Jaguars 67 Expert's Take Brad Bedell OT UFA 6-4 306 4 Packers 65 Expert's Take Paul Zukauskas OT UFA 6-5 320 4 Browns 65 Expert's Take Ethan Brooks OT UFA 6-6 330 7 Ravens 64 Expert's Take Jason Mathews OT UFA 6-5 285 11 Titans 64 Expert's Take Marcus Spears OT UFA 6-4 320 11 Texans 63 Expert's Take Barrett Brooks OT UFA 6-4 325 9 Steelers 62 Expert's Take Marcus Price OT UFA 6-4 310 6 Bills 62 Expert's Take Chad Slaughter OT UFA 6-8 340 4 Raiders 62 Expert's Take Matt Willig OT UFA 6-8 315 13 Panthers 62 Expert's Take Adrian Klemm OT UFA 6-3 312 5 Patriots 61 Expert's Take Damion Cook OT UFA 6-5 330 3 Browns 60 Expert's Take Player Pos. FA Type Ht. Wt. Exp. '04 Team '05 Team Grade Comment Ed Ellis OT UFA 6-5 325 7 NY Giants 60 Expert's Take Kenyatta Jones OT UFA 6-3 307 3 Redskins 60 Expert's Take Ian Allen OT RFA 6-4 310 3 Eagles N/A Tom Ashworth OT RFA 6-6 305 3 Patriots N/A Kevin Barry OT RFA 6-4 335 3 Packers N/A Chad Beasley OT RFA 6-5 300 3 Browns N/A Jerome Davis OT RFA 6-5 300 3 49ers N/A Steve Edwards OT RFA 6-5 330 2 Bears N/A Joaquin Gonzalez OT RFA 6-5 315 3 Browns N/A Brandon Gorin OT RFA 6-6 308 3 Patriots N/A Adam Haayer OT RFA 6-6 308 3 Vikings N/A Dave Kadela OT RFA 6-6 304 2 Panthers N/A Kyle Kosier OT RFA 6-5 309 3 49ers N/A Victor Rogers OT RFA 6-6 331 3 Lions N/A Kevin Shaffer OT RFA 6-5 290 3 Falcons N/A Kurt Vollers OT RFA 6-7 300 3 Cowboys N/A And for the guards: Marco Rivera OG UFA 6-4 307 9 Packers 76 Expert's Take Cosey Coleman OG UFA 6-4 322 5 Buccaneers 74 Expert's Take Ben Hamilton OG UFA 6-4 283 4 Broncos 74 Expert's Take Jermane Mayberry OG UFA 6-4 325 9 Eagles 72 Expert's Take Bennie Anderson OG UFA 6-5 345 4 Ravens 70 Expert's Take Joe Andruzzi OG UFA 6-3 312 8 Patriots 70 Expert's Take Rick DeMulling OG UFA 6-4 304 4 Colts 70 Expert's Take Roberto Garza OG UFA 6-2 296 4 Falcons 70 Expert's Take Chris Gray OG UFA 6-4 308 12 Seahawks 70 Expert's Take Casey Rabach OG UFA 6-4 301 4 Ravens 70 Expert's Take Oliver Ross OG UFA 6-5 322 6 Steelers 69 Expert's Take David Dixon OG UFA 6-5 343 11 Vikings 68 Expert's Take Matt O'Dwyer OG UFA 6-5 305 10 Buccaneers 67 Expert's Take Cooper Carlisle OG UFA 6-5 295 5 Broncos 66 Expert's Take Tom Nutten OG UFA 6-5 280 7 Rams 66 Expert's Take Keydrick Vincent OG UFA 6-5 325 4 Steelers 66 Expert's Take Bob Hallen OG UFA 6-3 305 7 Chargers 65 Expert's Take Cameron Spikes OG UFA 6-4 313 6 Cardinals 65 Expert's Take Chris Dishman OG UFA 6-3 375 8 Rams 64 Expert's Take Rich Tylski OG UFA 6-4 305 7 Panthers 64 Expert's Take Player Pos. FA Type Ht. Wt. Exp. '04 Team '05 Team Grade Comment Darnell Alford OG UFA 6-4 325 4 Rams 63 Expert's Take Aaron Gibson OG UFA 6-6 370 6 Bears 63 Expert's Take Ray Brown OG UFA 6-5 318 19 Redskins 62 Expert's Take Steve Herndon OG UFA 6-4 292 4 Falcons 61 Expert's Take Brent Smith OG UFA 6-5 305 8 NY Jets 60 Expert's Take Derrick Fletcher OG UFA 6-6 350 4 Jaguars 57 Expert's Take Martin Bibla OG RFA 6-3 306 3 Falcons N/A Wilbert Brown OG RFA 6-2 320 4 Patriots N/A Milford Brown OG RFA 6-4 331 3 Texans N/A Melvin Fowler OG RFA 6-3 305 3 Browns N/A Jonathan Goodwin OG RFA 6-3 318 3 NY Jets N/A Eric Heitmann OG RFA 6-3 305 3 49ers N/A Tyrone Hopson OG RFA 6-2 294 3 Lions N/A Terrence Metcalf OG RFA 6-3 318 3 Bears N/A Michael Moore OG RFA 6-2 318 3 Falcons N/A Stephen Neal OG RFA 6-4 305 3 Patriots N/A Mike Pucillo OG RFA 6-4 311 3 Bills N/A 235741[/snapback] I can see that those without a rating are shown in alphabetical order,but look who's at the bottom of the OG list.
todd Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 I've gotta say that your crusade about this topic is one for the ages. NFL Network reported John Abraham got the franchise tag and guess who's "lowlights" they used to show Abraham? You got it, Drew Bleedslow. I seriously think that Drew is used on about 75% of other teams defensive highlight reels. To me, that really says something. I dont claim that whoever is our QB next year wont make some other teams D highlights. It just would be nice to see some OTHER face at this point. 235287[/snapback]
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