\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 http://scholarblogs.emory.edu/esma/nfl/2014-nfl-fan-quality-analysis/ Scroll to bottom of page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Really, cause we didn't sell out some seasons in the 15 year playoff drought? Half these places wouldn't have teams anymore if they went through that, and most of the others would be lucky to get 20,000 fans there... Give me a break.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgang Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Bills haven't made the playoffs for 15 years and yet seaon tickets sales at all time high. Good work Emery. What bullsh!t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF Bills Fan Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 How is it possible to be so stupid and yet be affiiated with something that had the word scholar attached? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) How is it possible to be so stupid and yet be affiiated with something that had the word scholar attached?With the Internet, all things are possible Edited July 18, 2015 by Aaron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I agree, another BS report that is a complete waste of any intelligent football fan's time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 They are aware that we have a 80,000 seat stadium to sell out when other teams have less seats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 This rank is based mostly on $$$ generated. That explains Dallas and New England being tops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Heard about this. Will certainly never click on any story with such absolute bs knowingly. Don't pay the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Buffalo Wings Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Impossible to measure the passion of a given fan base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 They are aware that we have a 80,000 seat stadium to sell out when other teams have less seats? 72,000, but point taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Can't we win ANYTHING?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Really, cause we didn't sell out some seasons in the 15 year playoff drought? Half these places wouldn't have teams anymore if they went through that, and most of the others would be lucky to get 20,000 fans there... Give me a break.. like Bills haven't made the playoffs for 15 years and yet seaon tickets sales at all time high. Good work Emery. What bullsh!t like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 How could we be "fair weather" fans without having "fair weather"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I stopped reading when they referred to the Redskins as "Professor Tripathis favorite team, the Washington NFL Franchise". Joke. Might want to supplement that "rigorous" statistical analysis with some fundamental analysis, ie - attend a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 This is a stupid article as PTR stated it is based on money. That has no bearing on fan base. It just means these markets can over charge for tickets, and because Buffalo has a working class community the tickets are some of the lowest in the NFL. You listen to NFL Radio and many of the old time announcers constantly state how nuts Bills fans are about thier team. Howard David always talks about Buffalo, Kansas City, and Green Bay are the three best tailgaiting locations in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanM.D. Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I'm not even clicking on that article. I know that's BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 This is the most bull crap I've ever seen for a study. I'm so done with this team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) The methodology applied is not mostly based on ticket prices. Actually they attempt to control for ticket prices. For example if the Bills doubled ticket prices and sales dropped as a result, they would not count those fans dropping out from the price increase as "bandwagon" fans. After controlling for the other variables, they then try to measure attendance vs. win loss records. If you count the Toronto games as home games and actually look at attendance in the 4-12 seasons vs the 8-8 or 9-7 seasons, there actually is a pretty big swing in fan attendance for Bills games. Its all relative. If Jacksonville goes 4-12 and sells 10,000 tickets that season and then goes 12-4 and sells 10,000 tickets that season. They have zero bandwagon fans. If the Bills sell go 4-12 and sell 60k tickets that year , and then goes 12-4 and sells 70k tickets that year, they have 10,000 bandwagon fans. Clearly the Bills have better fans in that example, but mathematically they have more bandwagon fans. Its nothing to get bent out of shape over. Teams like the Giants, Packers and Steelers who have long waiting lists for season tickets don't really have the room for any bandwagon fans. I don't know if they did the work correctly, but the methodology they laid out makes some sense. Edited July 18, 2015 by PlayoffsPlease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) The methodology applied is not mostly based on ticket prices. Actually they attempt to control for ticket prices. For example if the Bills doubled ticket prices and sales dropped as a result, they would not count those fans dropping out from the price increase as "bandwagon" fans. After controlling for the other variables, they then try to measure attendance vs. win loss records. If you count the Toronto games as home games and actually look at attendance in the 4-12 seasons vs the 8-8 or 9-7 seasons, there actually is a pretty big swing in fan attendance for Bills games. Its all relative. If Jacksonville goes 4-12 and sells 10,000 tickets that season and then goes 12-4 and sells 10,000 tickets that season. They have zero bandwagon fans. If the Bills sell go 4-12 and sell 60k tickets that year , and then goes 12-4 and sells 70k tickets that year, they have 10,000 bandwagon fans. Clearly the Bills have better fans in that example, but mathematically they have more bandwagon fans. Its nothing to get bent out of shape over. Teams like the Giants, Packers and Steelers who have long waiting lists for season tickets don't really have the room for any bandwagon fans. I don't know if they did the work correctly, but the methodology they laid out makes some sense. I still disagree with the methodology. Those 10,000 are still damn sure watching on their TV's at home---they may just not want to sit out in freezing cold temperatures in late December for a meaningless game. That's not a bandwagon fan, that's smart. A bandwagon fan would not go to the game and then do some other activity like go shopping or whatever, cause they just don't really care about the team. That clearly is not the case here as our TV ratings are consistently very high. Edited July 18, 2015 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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