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Really, cause we didn't sell out some seasons in the 15 year playoff drought? Half these places wouldn't have teams anymore if they went through that, and most of the others would be lucky to get 20,000 fans there...

 

Give me a break..

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Bills haven't made the playoffs for 15 years and yet seaon tickets sales at all time high. Good work Emery. What bullsh!t

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Heard about this. Will certainly never click on any story with such absolute bs knowingly. Don't pay the man.

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They are aware that we have a 80,000 seat stadium to sell out when other teams have less seats?

 

72,000, but point taken.

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Really, cause we didn't sell out some seasons in the 15 year playoff drought? Half these places wouldn't have teams anymore if they went through that, and most of the others would be lucky to get 20,000 fans there...

 

Give me a break..

 

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Bills haven't made the playoffs for 15 years and yet seaon tickets sales at all time high. Good work Emery. What bullsh!t

 

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I stopped reading when they referred to the Redskins as "Professor Tripathis favorite team, the Washington NFL Franchise".

 

Joke. Might want to supplement that "rigorous" statistical analysis with some fundamental analysis, ie - attend a game.

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This is a stupid article as PTR stated it is based on money. That has no bearing on fan base. It just means these markets can over charge for tickets, and because Buffalo has a working class community the tickets are some of the lowest in the NFL.

 

You listen to NFL Radio and many of the old time announcers constantly state how nuts Bills fans are about thier team. Howard David always talks about Buffalo, Kansas City, and Green Bay are the three best tailgaiting locations in the NFL.

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The methodology applied is not mostly based on ticket prices. Actually they attempt to control for ticket prices. For example if the Bills doubled ticket prices and sales dropped as a result, they would not count those fans dropping out from the price increase as "bandwagon" fans.

 

After controlling for the other variables, they then try to measure attendance vs. win loss records. If you count the Toronto games as home games and actually look at attendance in the 4-12 seasons vs the 8-8 or 9-7 seasons, there actually is a pretty big swing in fan attendance for Bills games.

 

Its all relative. If Jacksonville goes 4-12 and sells 10,000 tickets that season and then goes 12-4 and sells 10,000 tickets that season. They have zero bandwagon fans. If the Bills sell go 4-12 and sell 60k tickets that year , and then goes 12-4 and sells 70k tickets that year, they have 10,000 bandwagon fans. Clearly the Bills have better fans in that example, but mathematically they have more bandwagon fans. Its nothing to get bent out of shape over.

 

Teams like the Giants, Packers and Steelers who have long waiting lists for season tickets don't really have the room for any bandwagon fans.

 

I don't know if they did the work correctly, but the methodology they laid out makes some sense.

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The methodology applied is not mostly based on ticket prices. Actually they attempt to control for ticket prices. For example if the Bills doubled ticket prices and sales dropped as a result, they would not count those fans dropping out from the price increase as "bandwagon" fans.

 

After controlling for the other variables, they then try to measure attendance vs. win loss records. If you count the Toronto games as home games and actually look at attendance in the 4-12 seasons vs the 8-8 or 9-7 seasons, there actually is a pretty big swing in fan attendance for Bills games.

 

Its all relative. If Jacksonville goes 4-12 and sells 10,000 tickets that season and then goes 12-4 and sells 10,000 tickets that season. They have zero bandwagon fans. If the Bills sell go 4-12 and sell 60k tickets that year , and then goes 12-4 and sells 70k tickets that year, they have 10,000 bandwagon fans. Clearly the Bills have better fans in that example, but mathematically they have more bandwagon fans. Its nothing to get bent out of shape over.

 

Teams like the Giants, Packers and Steelers who have long waiting lists for season tickets don't really have the room for any bandwagon fans.

 

I don't know if they did the work correctly, but the methodology they laid out makes some sense.

I still disagree with the methodology. Those 10,000 are still damn sure watching on their TV's at home---they may just not want to sit out in freezing cold temperatures in late December for a meaningless game. That's not a bandwagon fan, that's smart. A bandwagon fan would not go to the game and then do some other activity like go shopping or whatever, cause they just don't really care about the team. That clearly is not the case here as our TV ratings are consistently very high.

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