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But we Democrats are for capitalism too. We just also think that the government should spread out the abundance it has helped to create.

You mean you want to confiscate that which capitalism produced, distribute it as you see fit, and hope your intrusion into the market doesn't disrupt its function.

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You mean you want to confiscate that which capitalism produced, distribute it as you see fit, and hope your intrusion into the market doesn't disrupt its function.

Take back some, use it for the greater good of all--including the capitalists--and ensure that markets run fairly and smoothly as possible.

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Take back some, use it for the greater good of all--including the capitalists--and ensure that markets run fairly and smoothly as possible.

Don't you have to own something in the first place before you can take it back?

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Tell us how this will happen. Give examples. Be specific. Use your own words.

 

We'll wait.

Securities and Exchange Commission, Federal Reserve etc. B-)

Don't you have to own something in the first place before you can take it back?

The government makes the money in the first place

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Securities and Exchange Commission, Federal Reserve etc. B-)

 

Precisely what role would they play to ensure markets running smoothly and fairly?

 

Be specific. Use your own words.

 

We'll wait.

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The government makes the money in the first place

No, it doesn't. The government prints currency. To deny the distinction is to admit to a lack of even a basic understanding of the subject.

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Precisely what role would they play to ensure markets running smoothly and fairly?

 

Be specific. Use your own words.

 

We'll wait.

Would? Why "would"? What are you talking about?

No, it doesn't. The government prints currency. To deny the distinction is to admit to a lack of even a basic understanding of the subject.

Yes, they make the money.

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Would? Why "would"? What are you talking about?

 

 

Well obviously you don't feel the markets run fairly and smoothly now. What would the SEC, Fed and etc (how are these etc's anyway?) do differently to ensure smooth and fair markets?

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Well obviously you don't feel the markets run fairly and smoothly now. What would the SEC, Fed and etc (how are these etc's anyway?) do differently to ensure smooth and fair markets?

What makes you think I don't feel they are running smoothly? Where are you getting that from? Your bias?

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What makes you think I don't feel they are running smoothly? Where are you getting that from? Your bias?

 

So you're saying they run smoothly now?

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They make the money.

They make currency, which is a marker for value. Our currency is backed by units of labor, both current and future. So what you are saying, quite literally, is that the government makes labor in a labor factory.

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If so then why does the government need more money to ensure something that is already happening?

Do you just feel the need to ask questions?

 

Because markets are not everything, they are just a part--a big part--of our society. So ensuring they run smoothly is only part of what the government does.

They make currency, which is a marker for value. Our currency is backed by units of labor, both current and future. So what you are saying, quite literally, is that the government makes labor in a labor factory.

Without the government creating the money, marker, value holder, whatever, there would be damn little factory labor going on. So, I guess, indirectly, the government facilitates the creation of labor, yes.

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Do you just feel the need to ask questions?

 

Because markets are not everything, they are just a part--a big part--of our society. So ensuring they run smoothly is only part of what the government does.

Without the government creating the money, marker, value holder, whatever, there would be damn little factory labor going on. So, I guess, indirectly, the government facilitates the creation of labor, yes.

Gatorman,I'm Very wide right.We should get together and hold a think tank sometime.

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