keepthefaith Posted August 6, 2015 Posted August 6, 2015 (edited) Aside from lybob who happens to believe Obama is a republican in sheeps clothing. Lybob is partially right, Obama is in Sheep's clothing but what's inside is a really twisted a$$hole Edited August 6, 2015 by keepthefaith
IDBillzFan Posted August 7, 2015 Posted August 7, 2015 Schumer comes out against the Iran deal. Just how unbelievably bad must this 'generally praised' Obama, Kerry deal be for SCHUMER to oppose it? Ouch. Dem ranks falling apart.
Magox Posted August 7, 2015 Posted August 7, 2015 Schumer comes out against the Iran deal. Just how unbelievably bad must this 'generally praised' Obama, Kerry deal be for SCHUMER to oppose it? Ouch. Dem ranks falling apart. Damn Schumer, there he goes again, finding common cause with the Ayatollah
B-Man Posted August 7, 2015 Posted August 7, 2015 More "common causers"................ Leading Democrat Donors Haim Saban and Jack Rosen Rally Against Iran DealTop donors to the Democratic party rallied in opposition on Thursday to the Iran nuclear deal pursued by the Obama administration. U.S.-Israeli billionaire Haim Saban and Jack Rosen, the chairman of the American Jewish Congress (which issued a statement rejecting the Iran deal on Thursday), both rebuffed President Barack Obama’s plea on Wednesday to support the deal or risk another Middle East war. Saban told Israel’s Channel 1 that the Iran agreement was a “very bad deal” and said “we still need to fight it.”
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 7, 2015 Posted August 7, 2015 More "common causers"................ Leading Democrat Donors Haim Saban and Jack Rosen Rally Against Iran DealTop donors to the Democratic party rallied in opposition on Thursday to the Iran nuclear deal pursued by the Obama administration. U.S.-Israeli billionaire Haim Saban and Jack Rosen, the chairman of the American Jewish Congress (which issued a statement rejecting the Iran deal on Thursday), both rebuffed President Barack Obama’s plea on Wednesday to support the deal or risk another Middle East war. Saban told Israel’s Channel 1 that the Iran agreement was a “very bad deal” and said “we still need to fight it.” IT'S THEM PESKY JEWS AGAIN
IDBillzFan Posted August 7, 2015 Posted August 7, 2015 Yep. Looks like Barry's ready to go all 'Menendez' on Chuckie Schumer. Activists and former top officials within the Obama administration are openly contemplating whether Schumer’s stance disqualifies him from serving as the next Senate Democratic leader — which he is primed to do — and seeking to temporarily cut off money to Democrats in the upper chamber. I wonder what's going to Barry when he wakes up in 18 months and realizes the only thing he's in charge of is keeping Michelle happy.
Ozymandius Posted August 8, 2015 Posted August 8, 2015 Schumer comes out against the Iran deal. Just how unbelievably bad must this 'generally praised' Obama, Kerry deal be for SCHUMER to oppose it? Ouch. Dem ranks falling apart. Yep. Looks like Barry's ready to go all 'Menendez' on Chuckie Schumer. I wonder what's going to Barry when he wakes up in 18 months and realizes the only thing he's in charge of is keeping Michelle happy. This is all kabuki theater, imo. Schumer knows with certainty the 67 votes aren't there, so he asked permission from Obama to do vote against it. Obama lashing out is just part of the charade.
Keukasmallies Posted August 8, 2015 Posted August 8, 2015 (edited) This is all kabuki theater, imo. Schumer knows with certainty the 67 votes aren't there, so he asked permission from Obama to do vote against it. Obama lashing out is just part of the charade. No way! POTUS wouldn't permit any Dem to oppose his wants/needs at any time for any reason. His seven year track record has firmly entrenched the my-way-or-the-highway approach to domestic and foreign affairs. He was annointed by the electorate and, by God, he'll have what he wants or throw the mother of all tantrums. Oh, and by the time the need for the sixty-seven votes surfaces, the votes will be there. Discussion of both the public and "private" components of the proposed "deal" will raise a stink of heroic proportions (plus Iran will continue to insult the US on a daily basis thus pissing off lots of folks). A number of other Senators will see the re-election light as has Schumer. Edited August 8, 2015 by Keukasmallies
B-Man Posted August 8, 2015 Posted August 8, 2015 WHEN YOU’VE LOST DAVID BROOKS. . . Wars, military or economic, are measured by whether you achieved your stated objectives. By this standard the U.S. and its allies lost the war against Iran, but we were able to negotiate terms that gave only our partial surrender, which forces Iran to at least delay its victory. There have now been three big U.S. strategic defeats over the past several decades: Vietnam, Iraq and now Iran. Two thirds of which were lost by the man Brooks determined to be worthy to be president only a few months into his first term as senator based upon the sharpness of his trouser creases. THE WHITE HOUSE AND JEWS: “It’s the kind of dark, nasty stuff we might expect to hear at a white power rally, not from the President of the United States—and it’s gotten so blatant that even many of us who are generally sympathetic to the administration, and even this deal, have been shaken by it.” Well, you should have been paying attention earlier.
B-Man Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 MICHAEL GERSON: Obama’s Bitter Endgame On Iran. President Obama’s closing argument in favor of the Iran nuclear deal has become so exaggerated, so bitter, so simplified, that it risks parody. He accuses his opponents of wanting another war — like the last one they caused in Iraq — and “making common cause” with Iranian hard-liners who chant “Death to America.” This goes beyond the questioning of patriotism. Critics of the agreement are, in Obama’s depiction, the bloodthirsty allies of theocratic butchers. Thanks so much, Mr. President, for your fair-minded words. In the meantime, the Iranian regime has celebrated the nuclear agreement by defying it — blatantly sanitizing (with bulldozers) its military research site at Parchin and denying promised access to key scientists and military officials. So: While Iran tests the limits of the deal — rubbing Obama’s face in the weakness of his enforcement position — he turns his anger on critics of the deal. more at the link: Obama says Israeli interference in US affairs over Iran deal unprecedented. Really Barack ? Do you think that we forgot that you sent your own consults to defeat Bibi in the the Israeli election.
Tiberius Posted August 11, 2015 Author Posted August 11, 2015 "Joe Lieberman is in as the new Israeli lobby group president...surprise surprise. They don't have him in Congress to try and get our boys and girls into war for Israel, so this is the next best thing But why exactly does UANI need a new chairman? After all, they just hired Dr. Gary Samore as chairman back in 2013. Well, Samore had to leave because he supports the deal! Yes, he supports the deal. The deal is such a Chamberlainesque catastrophe that one of the main anti-deal pressure groups had to part ways with its leader because he supports the deal. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/lol-anti-iran-deal-farce-hits-crescendo More "common causers"................ Leading Democrat Donors Haim Saban and Jack Rosen Rally Against Iran DealTop donors to the Democratic party rallied in opposition on Thursday to the Iran nuclear deal pursued by the Obama administration. U.S.-Israeli billionaire Haim Saban and Jack Rosen, the chairman of the American Jewish Congress (which issued a statement rejecting the Iran deal on Thursday), both rebuffed President Barack Obama’s plea on Wednesday to support the deal or risk another Middle East war. Saban told Israel’s Channel 1 that the Iran agreement was a “very bad deal” and said “we still need to fight it.” Really? No kidding? What a surprise!
Tiberius Posted August 11, 2015 Author Posted August 11, 2015 Netanyahu, Cruz, and Huckabee all compare Iran’s rhetoric about Jews to Hitler’s. But once Hitler took power, observers did not have to rely on what he said. They could look at what he did. Within months of ascending to power, Hitler banned Jews from serving as civil servants or lawyers and began expelling them from government schools and universities. Within five years, he oversaw the orgy of anti-Jewish violence that was Kristallnacht. Within nine years, the Wannsee Conference began implementing the Final Solution. Compare that to Iran. The Iranian regime has been in power for 36 years. It governs a Jewish population of between 10,000 and 25,000. Life for Iranian Jews is not easy. They cannot express any sympathy for Israel. Indeed, they must go out of their way to reject Zionism lest they confirm regime suspicions about their loyalty. And those suspicions sometimes descend into outright persecution, as happened in 1999 in the city of Shiraz, when 13 Jews were imprisoned for several years on charges of spying for Israel. But while Iran’s Jews are not free, neither is their government trying to kill them. Three and a half decades after the Islamic Revolution, Iran boasts perhaps 60 functioning synagogues, along with multiple kosher butchers and Jewish schools. The regime recently erected a monument to Jews who died fighting in the Iran-Iraq War. When former president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad denied the Holocaust, the leader of Iran’s Jewish community publicly reprimanded him. Perhaps most tellingly, a substantial Jewish community remains in Iran, despite being allowed to leave. Huckabee, Cruz, and Netanyahu claim Tehran is so desperate to murder Jews that it will use a nuclear weapon against Israel despite the likelihood that Israel would retaliate with its own much larger nuclear arsenal. Yet inside Iran itself sits a largely defenseless Jewish population. If the Iranian regime is genocidally anti-Semitic, why has it made no effort to wipe them out? http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/08/iran-nuclear-deal-nazi-germany/400631/
DC Tom Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Perhaps most tellingly, a substantial Jewish community remains in Iran, despite being allowed to leave. Of which about 150,000 availed themselves of the opportunity. In any other country, that's called "ethnic cleansing."
truth on hold Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 Can't be so bad. Netanyahu seems totally cool with it. Future looks bright! http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_ISRAEL_IRAN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-07-14-10-29-55 Anything that ass dislikes is good for America
B-Man Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 WHY HILLARY SUPPORTS THE IRAN DEAL: “Hillary Clinton is in such deep legal trouble over her emails that she needs the backing of Obama to survive,” Roger Simon writes. As Victor Davis Hanson wrote on Sunday, Hillary is “hoping that she can stay on the Obama reservation and not earn a David Petraeus-like indictment from the Obama Justice Department.” Will anyone in the MSM ask her — or Obama himself — about the threat he wields over her campaign?
billsfan89 Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 Can someone tell me what is so bad about this deal? I keep hearing these talking points about Iran being able to delay inspections for up to 24 days on military sites. But in atomic terms 24 days is not a long time. It take 6 months to sterilize a room that has been enriching uranium and that's if you have the best people doing it, for a country more novice at it, it will most likely take longer. I don't get how a "better" deal could be reached. Does anyone opposing the deal understand how atomic timetables work? The one thing I would be opposed to is removing the ban on Iran selling weapons. But that doesn't seem to be a major selling point against the deal.
Deranged Rhino Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/11/us-iran-nuclear-kerry-idUSKCN0QG1V020150811?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews
Tiberius Posted August 12, 2015 Author Posted August 12, 2015 Can someone tell me what is so bad about this deal? I keep hearing these talking points about Iran being able to delay inspections for up to 24 days on military sites. But in atomic terms 24 days is not a long time. It take 6 months to sterilize a room that has been enriching uranium and that's if you have the best people doing it, for a country more novice at it, it will most likely take longer. I don't get how a "better" deal could be reached. Does anyone opposing the deal understand how atomic timetables work? The one thing I would be opposed to is removing the ban on Iran selling weapons. But that doesn't seem to be a major selling point against the deal. 1) Israel is afraid it will allow Iran to better fund Hezbollah and Hamas better since the sanctions will be lifted. 2) Obama's administration made the deal so Republicans hate it...knee jerk
Deranged Rhino Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 1) Israel is afraid it will allow Iran to better fund Hezbollah and Hamas better since the sanctions will be lifted. 2) Obama's administration made the deal so Republicans hate it...knee jerk And you say all this having read the agreement yourself, correct?
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