Tiberius Posted January 16, 2016 Author Posted January 16, 2016 prisoners also released http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/17/world/middleeast/iran-releases-washington-post-reporter-jason-rezaian.html?&moduleDetail=section-news-1&action=click&contentCollection=Middle%20East®ion=Footer&module=MoreInSection&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&pgtype=article
Chef Jim Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 prisoners also released http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/17/world/middleeast/iran-releases-washington-post-reporter-jason-rezaian.html?&moduleDetail=section-news-1&action=click&contentCollection=Middle%20East®ion=Footer&module=MoreInSection&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&pgtype=article Who did we give up?
3rdnlng Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 Who did we give up? 7 prisoners of Iranian descent who violated the sanctions by providing Iran dual use materials for their nuclear program. We also took 14 terrorists/murderers off the Interpol watch list. In comparison, the Bergdahl deal was a steal for the U.S.
Chef Jim Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 7 prisoners of Iranian descent who violated the sanctions by providing Iran dual use materials for their nuclear program. We also took 14 terrorists/murderers off the Interpol watch list. In comparison, the Bergdahl deal was a steal for the U.S. So what you're saying is that when John Kerry leaves politics he'll likely be hired as the Bills GM?
/dev/null Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 The last time an American leader was this bad at negotiations whitey bought Manhattan
DC Tom Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 The last time an American leader was this bad at negotiations whitey bought Manhattan What do you mean? The administration got everything they wanted. Peace and quiet until 2017, when it's somebody eles'e problem.
/dev/null Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 What do you mean? The administration got everything they wanted. Peace and quiet until 2017, when it's somebody eles'e problem. Ah yes the Obama Doctrine It's my predecessors fault and my successors problem
B-Man Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 JUST IN: Hillary Clinton calls for new sanctions on Iran http://hill.cm/V6yLkHv pic.twitter.com/PzrYdwCmYp 3:26 PM - 16 Jan 2016 · Details 67 retweets 22 likes So in her Iran statement Hillary decides to sound tougher than Obama & Kerry rather than contrast with Republicans. DEM lemmings' circuits overloading with confusion. Dear Leader says Iran good; the First Uterus says Iran bad. Hypocrisy.........anyone ? .
DC Tom Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 Ah yes the Obama Doctrine It's my predecessors fault and my successors problem Actually, that's the Clinton doctrine. It's how Bill's foreign policy operated.
B-Man Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 Jay SolomonVerified account @WSJSolomon 3h3 hours ago .@JohnKerry says two tracks of diplomacy -- nuclear and prisoners -- "not related." But then says it was. Omri Ceren @cerenomri 5h5 hours ago Omri Ceren Retweeted Jay Solomon Genuine question: why is Kerry even going through the pretense? Not a single reporter in the room believes him. Katherine MillerVerified account @katherinemiller 4h4 hours ago Clinton: "The treatment of our Navy sailors earlier this week was offensive, including the release of a demeaning and provocative video." Why..................she must be a "warmonger"...................right Lefties ?
DC Tom Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 Why..................she must be a "warmonger"...................right Lefties ? Opportunist.
Tiberius Posted January 17, 2016 Author Posted January 17, 2016 The last time an American leader was this bad at negotiations whitey bought ManhattanReally? Worse than Reagans hostages for billions in weapons? Then we saw them just grab more hostages. Good job Mr Obama
B-Man Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 Why does one think this story is going to change? White House: Prisoner swap had ties to nuclear deal but a ´one-time´ situation by Greg Wilson & Perry Chiaramonte Original Article
Tiberius Posted January 17, 2016 Author Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) Why does one think this story is going to change? White House: Prisoner swap had ties to nuclear deal but a ´one-time´ situation by Greg Wilson & Perry Chiaramonte Original Article These were the same prisoners the right wing press was screaming about that should be released and Obama was not doing enough for? The cries to heaven over this were as deafening as the silence of appreciation for the same right wing media.. Edited January 17, 2016 by gatorman
....lybob Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 Really? Worse than Reagans hostages for billions in weapons? Then we saw them just grab more hostages. Good job Mr Obama Well to be fair it should be Reagan's American hostages exchange for 1,500 missiles going to Iran, who knows what it cost?- plus Reagan was a good guy who reminded us fondly of our slightly senile grandfathers not a uppity Black man.
B-Man Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) This is quite a development: the US government just made a direct payment to the Iranian government of $1.7 billion. "So, nuclear deal implemented. American families reunited. The third piece of this work that we got done this weekend involved the United States and Iran resolving a financial dispute that dated back more than three decades. Since 1981, after our nations severed diplomatic relations, we’ve worked through a international tribunal to resolve various claims between our countries. The United States and Iran are now settling a longstanding Iranian government claim against the United States government. Iran will be returned its own funds, including appropriate interest, but much less than the amount Iran sought," Obama said. That payout to Iran from the United States? $1.7 billion. Secretary of State John Kerry said today that the settlement is $400 million debt and $1.3 billion in interest dating back to the Islamic revolution. That's separate from the sanctions windfall Iran will receive. The White HouseVerified account @WhiteHouse 7h7 hours ago "We have now cut off every single path that Iran could have used to build a bomb." —@POTUS #IranDeal They will never dare risk our fearsome arsenal of strongly-worded condemnations "Until Saturday, Obama had never granted a pre-trial pardon to anyone, nor had his predecessor, Pres George W. Bush" http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/01/iran-deal-obama-grants-clemency-to-seven-217879#ixzz3xWTruu7y … Hope and Change............ Edited January 17, 2016 by B-Man
Tiberius Posted January 19, 2016 Author Posted January 19, 2016 Today’s liberal foreign policy, to adapt Churchill, is appeasement wrapped in realism inside moral equivalency. When it comes to Iran policy, that means believing that we have sinned at least as much against the Iranians as they have sinned against us; that our national-security interests require us to come to terms with the Iranians; and that the best way to allay the suspicions—and, over time, diminish the influence—of Iranian hard-liners is by engaging the moderates ever more closely and demonstrating ever-greater diplomatic flexibility. http://www.wsj.com/articles/normalizing-iran-1453162144 What a bunch of horse crap. Opening up Iran to the world is a defeat for the hardliners there who want to close off their society and not let "dangerous foreign ideas" in. Nothing is guaranteed, but business interests and cultural exchanges intertwine usually and will hopefully bring Iran along in a peaceful manner. The Iranian people are not our enemies and they benefit greatly from this deal. People said it was appeasement to open up China. Was that a bad idea?
Nanker Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) If you think Iran doesn't have a nuclear bomb program and a long range missile program, just look to North Korea. That's where their testing and development is located. Iranians are present at every test the NKs do. But peace in our time B. O. will get us blown to pieces soon enough. Oh, and they've taken three more hostages. Edited January 19, 2016 by Nanker
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 http://www.wsj.com/articles/normalizing-iran-1453162144 What a bunch of horse crap. Opening up Iran to the world is a defeat for the hardliners there who want to close off their society and not let "dangerous foreign ideas" in. Nothing is guaranteed, but business interests and cultural exchanges intertwine usually and will hopefully bring Iran along in a peaceful manner. The Iranian people are not our enemies and they benefit greatly from this deal. People said it was appeasement to open up China. Was that a bad idea? Is China ruled for fundamentalists that campaign on killing the great Satan? When was the last time China took over our embassy and held us hostage? How about providing material support to terrorists actively engaged in killing American citizens. Its not the same comparison.
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