YoloinOhio Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000500927/article/mccoy-over-murray-any-day-one-executive-thinks-so?campaign=Twitter_atn "I'll take McCoy over Murray every time," a top personnel executive said. "When you played the Eagles, you feared McCoy. He was the guy who scared you the most. When you played Dallas, you didn't fear Murray. He's good. But you didn't fear him. You feared Dez (Bryant), or (Tony) Romo, but not Murray." Edited July 13, 2015 by YoloinOhio
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 I think the link is broken. I agree with the premise though. Murray is a bit more guaranteed for post I've yardage, but he doesnt seem to have the same big play potential. We already have someone like Murray in Freddie and Karlos. Shady is just scary.
Rocky Landing Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 The link seems to not be functioning. But I read this story the other day, and was annoyed. Essentially, the author of the article (I don't remember who it was) quotes an anonymous NFL exec who said, "I'll take McCoy over Murray every time," and then proceeds to ridicule the opinion, and explain why it is wrong. It will be interesting to see how these two RBs fare in their respective new systems.
plenzmd1 Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 I think Murray will be a fumble machine this coming year. Hate the way he carries the ball. I can't see that ending well in Philly.
LeGOATski Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) The writer uses the "less miles" argument, but running like this: while it is awesome in it's own way, takes a bigger toll on the body than running like this: Statistically, if Murray keeps up his current average and attempts, and can stay healthy for the next two full seasons, he'll have a little more yards than McCoy after 6 years. But Murray so far is averaging 13.3 games a season, while McCoy is at 15 games per season. I credit the author for taking the injuries into account, but it conflicts with his theory that less miles is automatically a good thing. Edited July 13, 2015 by LeGOATski
Deranged Rhino Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 The writer uses the "less miles" argument, but running like this: while it is awesome in it's own way, takes a bigger toll on the body than running like this: Statistically, if Murray keeps up his current average and attempts, and can stay healthy for the next two full seasons, he'll have a little more yards than McCoy after 6 years. But Murray so far is averaging 13.3 games a season, while McCoy is at 15 games per season. I credit the author for taking the injuries into account, but it conflicts with his theory that less miles is automatically a good thing. No one worried about the "miles" on McCoy until he became a Bill. Then suddenly it was the new narrative. By November, that comment will have been forgotten.
LeGOATski Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 No one worried about the "miles" on McCoy until he became a Bill. Then suddenly it was the new narrative. By November, that comment will have been forgotten. Or he suffers an injury and those people say "see?? I told you so!" I mean...the simple odds would indicate that he's due for an injury. It's just the nature of the game. I don't think his body has been beaten down the way some other RBs are, though.
Deranged Rhino Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 Or he suffers an injury and those people say "see?? I told you so!" I mean...the simple odds would indicate that he's due for an injury. It's just the nature of the game. I don't think his body has been beaten down the way some other RBs are, though. Sure, that will absolutely be the line of thinking if he gets banged up this year. But like you said, it's the nature of the game and Shady's game is one predicated on avoiding the big hit. I think you've made that point well, and it's one people should keep in mind. He's taken less punishment than most work-horse RBs at this stage of their career, and I don't see that changing in this new scheme. Everyone on the field is one play away from their career ending, regardless of how many ticks there are on their odometers.
LeGOATski Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) looking at Barry Sander's stat line is encouraging for a runner of McCoy's style. Sanders averaged 15 games a season for his first 6 seasons and then didn't miss a single game for his last 4 seasons. Yeah, it's just one other guy for comparison. Not a definite forecast. But it probably has to do with becoming a smarter RB with experience combined with the rare ability to avoid hits. Edited July 13, 2015 by LeGOATski
NoSaint Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 No one worried about the "miles" on McCoy until he became a Bill. Then suddenly it was the new narrative. By November, that comment will have been forgotten. i feel like thats stretching it. no one is worried about miles on him week 1 of this year but here or with the eagles a 5 year deal is a big commitment to a guy with a lot of carries. thats not to say hes over the hill, but even you must admit hes had a ton of touches.
CNY315 Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 Can't they both just be really, really good? I dont think that's what the discussion is about
DC Tom Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000500927/article/mccoy-over-murray-any-day-one-executive-thinks-so?campaign=Twitter_atn bull ****. The only team that fears Romo is rhe Cowboys.
LeGOATski Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 I dont think that's what the discussion is about It's certainly not.
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