What a Tuel Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) It's hard to tell because you can't see what either are doing with their other hands out of camera view. From what we can see, he obviously grabbed her arm because he felt she was going to throw a punch....that is confirmed when she actually throws the first punch. So the prosecutor thinks he was just grappling with the drunk girl for the fun of it? And then she punched him in self defense? I don't think he should've punched her, he should have just walked away to a different spot at the bar (even if there wasn't any). However she threw the first punch. They should both be charged at that point, it's good to know if someone grabs my arm, I have license to punch them. If she was grabbing his arms and holding them, and he punched her, I have no doubt, he would still most certainly be the one charged in that way for escalating it into a fist fight. Edited July 10, 2015 by What a Tuel
Kelly the Dog Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 Starting RB Dalvin Cook being investigated for battery of a woman the day before the Johnson video came out. She's pressing charges.
YoloinOhio Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 Starting RB Dalvin Cook being investigated for battery of a woman the day before the Johnson video came out. She's pressing charges.Yeesh. This one will hurt Jimbo. He's their starting RB, and very good. @BruceFeldmanCFB: Ugly details: A woman tells http://t.co/HQdVVRULKS that #FSU star Dalvin Cook punched her in the face several times. http://t.co/X2WHIhqjKI
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 FSU is a joke program. It really is the inspiration for the movie The Program. Manuel probably wasn't Fisher's type of guy.
YoloinOhio Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) WOW Skurski needs to check himself. I'm seriously appalled. @JaySkurski: This woman wouldn't give out her phone number. Clearly she is provoking this #FSU player. #thingsRonaldDarbymightsay http://t.co/Ptao5iF4eH Edited July 10, 2015 by YoloinOhio
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 I always get a snake oil salesman vibe with Jimbo. Like they will eventually be found guilty of all kinds of recruiting violations. Just a feeling I get. Guys named Jimbo seem very trustworthy. Sadly, this is what college football has become. Anything to win. It's why I have so much respect for Stanford. Top program with good kids and a high academic standards.
Kelly the Dog Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) WOW Skurski needs to check himself. I'm seriously appalled. @JaySkurski: This woman wouldn't give out her phone number. Clearly she is provoking this #FSU player. #thingsRonaldDarbymightsay http://t.co/Ptao5iF4eH I never thought that there could be a bigger ass than Bucky on the news, but Skurski is giving Bucky, Harrington and Sully a run for their money. That's such a stupid thing to say. Edited July 10, 2015 by Kelly the Dog
YoloinOhio Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 I never thought that there could be a bigger ass than Bucky on the news, but Skurski is giving Bucky, Harrington and Sully a run for their money. That's such a stupid thing to say.i just unfollowed him. That was just ridiculous and I never see any good info from him as it is.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 i just unfollowed him. That was just ridiculous and I never see any good info from him as it is. I reported his tweet as targeted harassment.
Peter Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 I never thought that there could be a bigger ass than Bucky on the news, but Skurski is giving Bucky, Harrington and Sully a run for their money. That's such a stupid thing to say. The News must have its sports writers take continuing education in snark. I really hope that the new guy does not lower himself to this level. He and Vic need to stay away from TBN sports writers staff meetings.
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 I never thought that there could be a bigger ass than Bucky on the news, but Skurski is giving Bucky, Harrington and Sully a run for their money. That's such a stupid thing to say. These dudes are such clowns. Talk all kinds of crap and act like little girls if a player gets upset with them. But if a player did really confront one of these weasals, they are the bad guys. Gotta be hard to work in a dying industry.
YoloinOhio Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) I reported his tweet as targeted harassment.Honestly - I don't get fired up about a lot,but I agree. He should be fired. He's accusing Darby of something that is very serious and totally attacking his character in social media. Indefensible. FYI - it looks like Jerkski deleted his tweet Edited July 10, 2015 by YoloinOhio
BuffaloHokie13 Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 Honestly - I don't get fired up about a lot,but I agree. He should be fired. He's accusing Darby of something that is very serious and totally attacking his character in social media. Indefensible. FYI - it looks like Jerkski deleted his tweet For the best. He didn't even have the gonads to tag Darby in it. That tweet was a special level of low, even for a member of the media.
dave mcbride Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) Starting RB Dalvin Cook being investigated for battery of a woman the day before the Johnson video came out. She's pressing charges. ugly story. what the hell is up with that program? Edited July 10, 2015 by dave mcbride
Peter Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 The good news is that, after the justified criticism that FSU and the Tally police department got as a result of the Jameis Winston matter, they seem to be taking these types of things more seriously. They really mishandled (either intentionally or otherwise) the Winston "investigation." The incident that came out a few days ago reminded me of when Deion Sanders and his wife lived in the same mansion while they were separated. She apparently started hitting him during an argument and he ran away. As I recall, people gave him grief for running away. I was never much of a Deion fan, but that had to be one of the smartest things that he could have done. As a guy (and I have told this to my oldest son), nothing good could ever come from even physical self defense in such a situation. You are better off just removing yourself from the situation.
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 The good news is that, after the justified criticism that FSU and the Tally police department got as a result of the Jameis Winston matter, they seem to be taking these types of things more seriously. They really mishandled (either intentionally or otherwise) the Winston "investigation." The incident that came out a few days ago reminded me of when Deion Sanders and his wife lived in the same mansion while they were separated. She apparently started hitting him during an argument and he ran away. As I recall, people gave him grief for running away. I was never much of a Deion fan, but that had to be one of the smartest things that he could have done. As a guy (and I have told this to my oldest son), nothing good could ever come from even physical self defense in such a situation. You are better off just removing yourself from the situation. Deion always ran away from contact. But good for him. Smart and hopefully his wife got charged.
Peter Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 Interesting news I read a moment ago: Dalvin Cook (star RB) suspended whereas the other guy was kicked off the team. I guess Jimbo really does not want to lose his star RB. Deion always ran away from contact. But good for him. Smart and hopefully his wife got charged. Well done sir!
BuffaloHokie13 Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) Interesting news I read a moment ago: Dalvin Cook (star RB) suspended whereas the other guy was kicked off the team. I guess Jimbo really does not want to lose his star RB. Well done sir! Could just be the power of video evidence vs. spoken testimony. (not that I agree with it) Edited July 10, 2015 by BuffaloHokie13
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 Could just be the power of video evidence vs. spoken testimony. (not that I agree with it) True but do you think Fisher kicks Winston off the team the previous two years? I doubt it. This guy will be "suspended" for 1 or 2 cake walk games against Our Sisters of the Poor and Jimbo will claim he learned his lesson. I know you get paid well but college coaching is so slimy.
Rob's House Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 Could just be the power of video evidence vs. spoken testimony. (not that I agree with it) Video evidence is far more reliable. Testimony is notoriously unreliable. Memories are inexact; motives, trustworthiness, and bias can come into play. But the camera doesn't lie.
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