26CornerBlitz Posted November 7, 2014 Author Posted November 7, 2014 wow, hld scoreless last night in St Catharines and Erie lost Reports are the IceDogs goalie had a great game last night. Tim Murray was in attendance. @DanHickling NHL GMs Tim Murray and Brad Treliving take in McDavid Strome etal. as @ErieOtters fall to @OHLIceDogs #Sabres #Flames
May Day 10 Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 yup. Moran has been struggling and they traded for Hope (goalie) from Owen Sound yesterday. Definitely lit a fire under his butt. 38 saves I think (briefly looked at the boxscore)
shrader Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) Anyone trying to make a direct comparison of Crosby at 17 and McDavid at 17 based on those numbers is missing a very important point. Crosby was 7 months younger in that season they are using. So if you want to claim they're the same age, you'd actually have to go back to McDavid's numbers from around April of last season. And that is completely ignoring that we're talking about only 14 games and that they were played in different junior leagues. Crosby's QMJHL has always had a reputation of being more high scoring/less defense. Crosby's 16 year old numbers (135 points in 59 games, 2.29 ppg) were miles ahead of McDavid's (99 in 56, 1.77 ppg), but again, I think it's not the most useful of comparisons. Another thing I'm not sure about is how the talent level of the two teams matched up. Erie does have another top 5 draft prospect in Strome. After a quick look at Rimouski's roster, I don't really recognize any of Crosby's teammates. Both guys numbers show them to be assist guys, so that is definitely going to be driven by how many finishers they have around them. edit: I hope this doesn't look like I'm trying to shoot down McDavid because I'm not. I want him on this team but I don't see the point of this comparison. Edited November 7, 2014 by shrader
26CornerBlitz Posted November 7, 2014 Author Posted November 7, 2014 http://www.cbssports...skid-in-chicago Edmonton Oilers at Buffalo Sabres, 7:00 p.m. ET Connor McDavid game of the night: How the Buffalo Sabres have even won three games this season is a bit of a mystery. They appear to be even worse than they were a year ago, have scored only 17 goals in 14 games and have what is by far the league's worst goal differential at minus-28. The next worst team is their opponent on Friday night, the Edmonton Oilers, at minus-16. This is definitely the Connor McDavid game of the night where it pays to lose. Pick: Oilers 4, Sabres 1
ricojes Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 So far so bad...they are on pace for less points than last year, didn't think that even possibly.
May Day 10 Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 teams close to them too have been winning. Columbus currently is the biggest threat, but no way that team is worst in the league. I do think the Sabres can/may put it together at some point this season and have a decent month. These October/November games are just as big as March! Its looking good though
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 The Sabres have scored 18 goals this season. Sidney Crosby has 19 assists this season.
shrader Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 teams close to them too have been winning. Columbus currently is the biggest threat, but no way that team is worst in the league. I do think the Sabres can/may put it together at some point this season and have a decent month. These October/November games are just as big as March! Its looking good though Columbus has to get healthy at some point. I'm not really sure who is the serious contender at this point for dead last. I'd consider putting Edmonton there because of their recent history, but they seem just streaky enough to move away from us.
bbb Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 Did Edmonton keep winning the lottery, Cleveland Cavalier style, in order to have the first pick so many times? How often were they last in the league?
shrader Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 Did Edmonton keep winning the lottery, Cleveland Cavalier style, in order to have the first pick so many times? How often were they last in the league? 2014: 3rd last, Panthers won lottery 2012: 2nd last, won the lottery 2011: Last place, Devils won lottery (moving up 4 places as a result) 2010: Last place, won the lottery So they got lucky two years in a row, 2011 and 2012. The lottery was different then, where the winner could move up at most 4 slots, so that Devils win allowed them to keep the #1 pick. Then obviously the leapfrog in 2012 was lucky... but that Yakupov pick looks iffy right now. They won a lot, but their timing was pretty crappy. Hall has been a very good player, but Yakupov and Nugent-Hopkins really weren't the big end elite prospects you'd hope to see when you're picking #1.
bbb Posted November 11, 2014 Posted November 11, 2014 2014: 3rd last, Panthers won lottery 2012: 2nd last, won the lottery 2011: Last place, Devils won lottery (moving up 4 places as a result) 2010: Last place, won the lottery So they got lucky two years in a row, 2011 and 2012. The lottery was different then, where the winner could move up at most 4 slots, so that Devils win allowed them to keep the #1 pick. Then obviously the leapfrog in 2012 was lucky... but that Yakupov pick looks iffy right now. They won a lot, but their timing was pretty crappy. Hall has been a very good player, but Yakupov and Nugent-Hopkins really weren't the big end elite prospects you'd hope to see when you're picking #1. Thanks. Very interesting info! I read Sunday's Buffalo News tonight and there was an article interviewing Crosby about all this. What was shocking to me was that the Penguins got him with only a 6% chance.
Alaska Darin Posted November 11, 2014 Posted November 11, 2014 Anyone trying to make a direct comparison of Crosby at 17 and McDavid at 17 based on those numbers is missing a very important point. Crosby was 7 months younger in that season they are using. So if you want to claim they're the same age, you'd actually have to go back to McDavid's numbers from around April of last season. And that is completely ignoring that we're talking about only 14 games and that they were played in different junior leagues. Crosby's QMJHL has always had a reputation of being more high scoring/less defense. Crosby's 16 year old numbers (135 points in 59 games, 2.29 ppg) were miles ahead of McDavid's (99 in 56, 1.77 ppg), but again, I think it's not the most useful of comparisons. Another thing I'm not sure about is how the talent level of the two teams matched up. Erie does have another top 5 draft prospect in Strome. After a quick look at Rimouski's roster, I don't really recognize any of Crosby's teammates. Both guys numbers show them to be assist guys, so that is definitely going to be driven by how many finishers they have around them. edit: I hope this doesn't look like I'm trying to shoot down McDavid because I'm not. I want him on this team but I don't see the point of this comparison. During Crosby's era, the QMJHL was a "small guy skating league". The reason you don't recognize most of the players he played with is because of the 3 Major Junior leagues, the "Q" during that era produced the fewest NHL players. I haven't followed major junior as closely over the last few years as I used to but the Q was by far the bastard stepchild of the WHL and OHL back then. There are just so many factors to consider when comparing players across leagues and eras but McDavid is head and shoulders above pretty much everyone in the world in his age group and there are literally zero questions about whether he's going to be an impact NHL player. That's as rare as it gets.
26CornerBlitz Posted November 11, 2014 Author Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) Terriers' Eichel passes first test against rival Eagles By Mike G. Morreale - NHL.com Staff Writer The Battle For Commonwealth Avenue was everything Boston University freshman Jack Eichel expected. An announced sellout of 7,884 fans packed Conte Forum on the campus on Boston College on Friday for the nationally televised game between two of the biggest hockey rivals in the nation. In the end, Boston University overcame three one-goal deficits to rally to a 5-3 victory. Eichel, an A-rated skater on NHL Central Scouting's preliminary players to watch list, scored once, generated five of BU's 26 shots and finished with a plus-3 rating. His goal 12:15 into the third period pulled Boston University into a 3-3 tie. On the game-tying goal, Eichel won a draw in the offensive zone back to fellow freshman Brandon Fortunato at the point and skated towards the slot. Fortunato fed across to freshman Brandon Hickey, who took a shot that Eichel deftly deflected past Boston College goalie Thatcher Demko (Vancouver Canucks). It was Eichel's fifth goal in six games. FOLLOW 2015 DRAFT BLOG Edited November 11, 2014 by 26CornerBlitz
shrader Posted November 11, 2014 Posted November 11, 2014 During Crosby's era, the QMJHL was a "small guy skating league". The reason you don't recognize most of the players he played with is because of the 3 Major Junior leagues, the "Q" during that era produced the fewest NHL players. I haven't followed major junior as closely over the last few years as I used to but the Q was by far the bastard stepchild of the WHL and OHL back then. There are just so many factors to consider when comparing players across leagues and eras but McDavid is head and shoulders above pretty much everyone in the world in his age group and there are literally zero questions about whether he's going to be an impact NHL player. That's as rare as it gets. I don't think the Q will ever shake that reputation. Still, I was surprised to see no one of value on the team with him. I thought I remembered there being some high powered line with one of the Kostitsyn brothers, but upon further review, that was Kane. That goes right along with Q's reputation though, I just assumed the soft lazy forward from Belarus played in the Q instead of the OHL. McDavid is going to be fun to watch when he gets to this level and I really hope it is here. I can't help but think about Pittsburgh drafting Malkin 2nd one year and then Crosby 1st the next. Reinhart doesn't belong in the same sentence as the other three, but he and McDavid would be one hell of a Pittsburgh-like building block.
26CornerBlitz Posted November 11, 2014 Author Posted November 11, 2014 NHL Network to televise top prospect McDavid Connor McDavid on NHL NetworkNov. 14 Erie at Niagara, 7:00 pm Nov. 28 Erie at London, 7:30 pm* Jan. 30 Erie at Kingston, 7:00 pm Feb. 1 Erie at Ottawa, 3:00 pm March 22 Erie at Niagara, 3:00 pm
26CornerBlitz Posted November 12, 2014 Author Posted November 12, 2014 http://youtu.be/PIAXoESvfyw McDavid injured his hand in a fight today. @cathalkelly No official word on Connor McDavid, but according to Erie Otters PR staff: "It's not looking good." McDavid injured right hand in 2nd period fight. Tossed for removing helmet. It was his first real (i.e. punches thrown) fight of the season. I'll leave it to you to calibrate on the toughness/dumbness scale, but McDavid won that fight pretty handily. According to @GoErieHockey, that wasn't just McDavid's first honest-to-God fight this year. It's the first in his OHL career. @GoErieHockey Being told @cmcdavid97 has been taken to a hospital for x-rays #erie
G-Daddy Posted November 12, 2014 Posted November 12, 2014 Just our luck, we will draft him and he will miss shots wide right.
bbb Posted November 12, 2014 Posted November 12, 2014 So that Cathal ahole is back. I thought he was fired. I hope there is no long term issues here!
26CornerBlitz Posted November 12, 2014 Author Posted November 12, 2014 Otters' GM Bassin on McDavid's injury and fighting in hockey (9:51) Sherry Bassin, the General Manager of the Erie Otters joins Macko & Cauz to chat about Connor McDavid's hand injury and the role that fighting playing in hockey today.
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