birdog1960 Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 Fox coverage is awful. From the awful music intro/outro's to them missing shots while they show the announcers patting each other on the back for making awful jokes. This to me just seems like an attempt to bring the NASCAR demographic to golf and it is brutal. i watched on usga.com since i cancelled direct tv. coverage was very good. i'm sure the video feeds were the same but there were 3 option: 360 view, featured group and featured holes. the commentators were 2 pros and a color guy. all pretty good x the female pro had an irritating voice. they were set up on the driving range and had a teaching pro showing how to make some of the shots the leaders had to make eg knock down long irons, tight lie chips... pretty good stuff. only bad thing was that coverage ended at 9pm and i had to read updates on the guardian site. almost glad i missed the meltdown but guess i need an antenna for local tv. that was one ugly golf course. the poa on the greens was atrocious. usga lost some cred with this tourney but it did accomplish the goal of flushing the cream to the top. i just wonder how much 2 speed greens (poa and fescue) played in the final outcome.
eball Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 Thank goodness that is over. USGA / PGA, please don't let Fox broadcast any more golf. ....EVER... Unfortunately, Fox's contract with the USGA is at least 10 years...so this won't end any time soon.
LB3 Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 i watched on usga.com since i cancelled direct tv. coverage was very good. i'm sure the video feeds were the same but there were 3 option: 360 view, featured group and featured holes. the commentators were 2 pros and a color guy. all pretty good x the female pro had an irritating voice. they were set up on the driving range and had a teaching pro showing how to make some of the shots the leaders had to make eg knock down long irons, tight lie chips... pretty good stuff. only bad thing was that coverage ended at 9pm and i had to read updates on the guardian site. almost glad i missed the meltdown but guess i need an antenna for local tv. that was one ugly golf course. the poa on the greens was atrocious. usga lost some cred with this tourney but it did accomplish the goal of flushing the cream to the top. i just wonder how much 2 speed greens (poa and fescue) played in the final outcome. I might have to try watching online as well if Fox stays like that. The greens were crazy. Gary Player said the whole course might have been the worst he'd ever seen. I know a lot of people don't like the players complaining about it, but they seem to have a gripe in my mind. They basically took guys who make up for weaknesses in other skills by putting well out of contention entirely. The meltdown was tough to watch.
birdog1960 Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 I might have to try watching online as well if Fox stays like that. The greens were crazy. Gary Player said the whole course might have been the worst he'd ever seen. I know a lot of people don't like the players complaining about it, but they seem to have a gripe in my mind. They basically took guys who make up for weaknesses in other skills by putting well out of contention entirely. The meltdown was tough to watch. i play a course with this weed on the greens. to me, it's not a big deal but to an excellent, pofessional putter it is. if you put in 12 footers routinely, it's a big deal.
truth on hold Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 I might have to try watching online as well if Fox stays like that. The greens were crazy. Gary Player said the whole course might have been the worst he'd ever seen. I know a lot of people don't like the players complaining about it, but they seem to have a gripe in my mind. They basically took guys who make up for weaknesses in other skills by putting well out of contention entirely. The meltdown was tough to watch.Judging by the final.round contenders and the winner I think the course did its job identifying the best players in the world.
LewPort71 Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 Unfortunately, Fox's contract with the USGA is at least 10 years...so this won't end any time soon. Ugh.. My problem with the Fox broadcast is that this week was their first telecast and on the grand stage of the US Open. Fox should have practiced on, say, The Valero Open or some such other event.
Beerball Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 Really disliked Fox's coverage, hope they can grow into the role. How can you have Norman there and not ask him about US Open pressure, meltdowns?
birdog1960 Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 what was fox analysts take on the greens? unsurprising, the usga analysts barely mentioned them but i only watched Sunday.
Jauronimo Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 Johnson tapped in for par and a 2nd place finish. Hardly a "meltdown". Go look at Phil's US Open history if you need refreshers on what a meltdown looks like. Yeah, Johnson had a very makeable putt to force a playoff but based on what we saw through 72 holes, there weren't too many gimmes on that course. Spieth missed an easier putt minutes before and got a double bogey. Everybody was missing reads out there.
birdog1960 Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 Johnson tapped in for par and a 2nd place finish. Hardly a "meltdown". Go look at Phil's US Open history if you need refreshers on what a meltdown looks like. Yeah, Johnson had a very makeable putt to force a playoff but based on what we saw through 72 holes, there weren't too many gimmes on that course. Spieth missed an easier putt minutes before and got a double bogey. Everybody was missing reads out there. he made 3 bogeys on the final 9 and 3 putted from 12 feet on 18. as i recall he missed several putts inside 10 feet on the final 9. you don't win majors that way. i'd call it a meltdown but if not, it's definitely not champion level play.
Chilly Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 Ugh.. My problem with the Fox broadcast is that this week was their first telecast and on the grand stage of the US Open. Fox should have practiced on, say, The Valero Open or some such other event. Hey now, don't mess up the Valero Open for me! I just played TPC San Antonio yesterday, great course, tough as all hell. The last 4 holes are some of my favorite holes in golf.
Jauronimo Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 he made 3 bogeys on the final 9 and 3 putted from 12 feet on 18. as i recall he missed several putts inside 10 feet on the final 9. you don't win majors that way. i'd call it a meltdown but if not, it's definitely not champion level play. Yet he played one stroke worse than Spieth on Sunday. I guess its a very slim line between championship level play and meltdown.
truth on hold Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 Yet he played one stroke worse than Spieth on Sunday. I guess its a very slim line between championship level play and meltdown.No matter it was great theatre...and I guess great theatre has both tragedy and triumph, which it did. That spieth ... even given his stumbles and temper....just has that "It factor" about him. British open will be interesting and this is one time the US Open course will be good preparation for it
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 That course was hot garbage. I've golfed on better greens.
birdog1960 Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 Yet he played one stroke worse than Spieth on Sunday. I guess its a very slim line between championship level play and meltdown. he birdied 18 after doubling 17. he made the big shots when the pressure was on. and he was consistently excellent the rest of the time. that wins championships. that's the difference. it's not like this was dj's 1st rodeo either.
Jauronimo Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 he birdied 18 after doubling 17. he made the big shots when the pressure was on. and he was consistently excellent the rest of the time. that wins championships. that's the difference. it's not like this was dj's 1st rodeo either. I'm aware of the difference. Its not my fault that choose your words poorly and then back up your arguments even worse.
birdog1960 Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 I'm aware of the difference. Its not my fault that choose your words poorly and then back up your arguments even worse. so yeah. it's a slim line but a finite and definite one.
Jauronimo Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) so yeah. it's a slim line but a finite and definite one. Thus Championship golf and meltdown are pretty poor words used to describe Spieth's and Johnson's respective performances given a one stroke margin and considering they were tied through 17 holes. I know you're glad you didn't get to see the finale, but maybe you should watch the last few holes before continuing this asinine argument. Edited June 22, 2015 by Jauronimo
birdog1960 Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) saw the shots they're available here: http://www.usopen.com/en_US/scoring/index.html. click on any players score to see his card and video of each hole. you say tomahto and i say tomatoe. not worth the trouble... Edited June 22, 2015 by birdog1960
Lurker Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) Amazing to think they were putting on this: https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTgWBSIIJZieKg3pakV8SsNcceNBfmeWsPdn5aXoWbH6TQEmyGp https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTOYs4d-cX1yHzTIQswT4DVK89Nz1YjPMSXnNZlBdhJt5819rnp Edited June 22, 2015 by Lurker
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