Rob's House Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 no demographics on groups such as neo confederates and other racist hate groups come to hand but i think anecdote might lead towards the right conclusions in this case. came across this while looking however. it was an epiphany for me explaining why so many libertarians here seem to agree with neo confederates re the civil war. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Confederate Historian Daniel Feller asserts that libertarian authors Thomas DiLorenzo, Charles Adams, and Jeffrey Rogers Hummel have produced a "marriage of neo-Confederates and libertarianism." Despite an apparent disconnect ("How can a lover of liberty defend slavery?"), Feller writes: What unites the two, aside from their hostility to the liberal academic establishment, is their mutual loathing of big government. Adams, DiLorenzo, and Hummel view the Civil War through the prism of market economics. In their view its main consequence, and even its purpose, was to create a leviathan state that used its powers to suppress the most basic personal freedom, the right to choose. The Civil War thus marks a historic retreat for liberty, not an advance. Adams and DiLorenzo dismiss the slavery issue as a mere pretext for aggrandizing central power. All three authors see federal tyranny as the war's greatest legacy. And they all hate Abraham Lincoln So their position is based on something separate and distinct from slavery? Who knew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 So their position is based on something separate and distinct from slavery? Who knew? except that it really isn't. as it says, how can anyone disconnect slavery from liberty? it's self delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 except that it really isn't. as it says, how can anyone disconnect slavery from liberty? it's self delusional. Nobody is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) You missed the point. The poor dental condition of these people is due to their politics and their inability to get to their dentist due to their lack of a Lexus or Infinity. My teeth are just so/so, but then again, I only drive an Acura. Now my wife's teeth are worthy of that German car represented by an upside down peace sign. I didn't miss your point (despite that it makes no sense), I was just too distracted by the bigotry in your statement to pay attention to anything else you said. Edited July 16, 2015 by Azalin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Nobody is. apparently you believe that the confederacy and slavery can be divorced from each other. they can't. I think the value and quality of cars generally is inversely related to the likelihood of seeing stickers and flags of any kind on them. we actually agree here. most successful people have better things to do then spend their time lamenting lost causes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 apparently you believe that the confederacy and slavery can be divorced from each other. they can't. Principles of sovereignty can be. You just choose not to because conflating the issues is advantageous to your political ideology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 I think the value and quality of cars generally is inversely related to the likelihood of seeing stickers and flags of any kind on them. IMO, this is so true. And, I don't care what side the stickers are on. But, I had to take a picture last year (I'll try to find it) of a car with two bumper stickers next to each other. One was for something like The Peace Center of WNY. The other said "Born OK the first time" or something like that. In other words - "Eff you, Christians"...............So much tor that whole Peace thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Your smarmy "driver and passengers in urgent need of dental work" jab is very telling about your need to categorize people by stereotypes. I notice you don't even mention that line in your laughable defense of your "truthful observation". A little self-reflection time might do you some good. He's your typical "fart sniffing" liberal poofter hypocrite and he knows it better than anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) So why are the Army and Navy still naming weapon systems and ships after members of the Sons of Confederate Veterans? When do we rename the Truman, Carl Vinson, and John C. Stennis (a/k/a "Johnny Reb")? Edited July 16, 2015 by DC Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I didn't miss your point (despite that it makes no sense), I was just too distracted by the bigotry in your statement to pay attention to anything else you said. Uh, you talkin to me? I was merely mocking birdog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Uh, you talkin to me? I was merely mocking birdog. Sorry, man. That 100% for birddog. I quoted the wrong guy. My apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) He's your typical "fart sniffing" liberal poofter hypocrite and he knows it better than anyone. poofter...now there's an interesting word. just get back from england did you? alas, you again have exactly the wrong interpretation. i'm betting that my testosterone level exceeds yours. na,na,na,na,na,naaaaaa Edited July 17, 2015 by birdog1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 poofter...now there's an interesting word. just get back from england did you? alas, you again have exactly the wrong interpretation. i'm betting that my testosterone level exceeds yours. na,na,na,na,na,naaaaaa Well you're a doctor so you can prescribe steroids to yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Anyone know what the new name of the Robert C Byrd Highway will be called? Or the Robert C Byrd Academic and Technology Center? Or the Robert C Byrd Library? Or the Robert C Byrd National Aerospace Education Center? Or the Robert C Byrd Metals Fabrication Center? Or the Robert C Byrd .... well, you get the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Anyone know what the new name of the Robert C Byrd Highway will be called? Or the Robert C Byrd Academic and Technology Center? Or the Robert C Byrd Library? Or the Robert C Byrd National Aerospace Education Center? Or the Robert C Byrd Metals Fabrication Center? Or the Robert C Byrd .... well, you get the point. you act as though those that oppose the flag over the sc capital would also be opposed to such a thing. it's a slippery slope, yes. but unpalatable stuff like racism always is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Poor Black people are victims of racism Poor White people are just plain lazy Poor Asians are monks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Poor Black people are victims of racism Poor White people are just plain lazy Poor Asians are monks. This made me think of this scene from an under-appreciated gem: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2015/06/25/an-interview-with-the-baltimore-cop-whos-revealing-all-the-horrible-things-he-saw-on-the-job/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 This made me think of this scene from an under-appreciated gem: Most blame society. Other's their parents. But quite a few just say "$#@% it, I just want to be stoned and commune with that tree." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2015/06/25/an-interview-with-the-baltimore-cop-whos-revealing-all-the-horrible-things-he-saw-on-the-job/ And when's the last time that Baltimore was run by someone OTHER than a democrat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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