4merper4mer Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 except that olifver doesn't attempt to define it likely because there are definitions available in resources such as the geneva convention The Supreme Court knows porn when it sees porn and I know torture when I see John Oliver speak for 1.3 or more seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 "it is so because i say it is so" You just responded to a renowned troll's cheap joke with a total non-sequitur. Every bit of that post is shamefully stupid. From basis for posting (i.e., complete miscomprehension of the 4mer's joke) to your totally asinine point about why Oliver decided not to recite the definition of torture. Could it be because he's a comedian and reciting definitions out the Geneva Convention isn't very entertaining? Lets rehash: 1. missed the joke. 2. non-sequitur. 3. totally !@#$ing stupid point of its own merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 You just responded to a renowned troll's cheap joke with a total non-sequitur. Every bit of that post is shamefully stupid. From basis for posting (i.e., complete miscomprehension of the 4mer's joke) to your totally asinine point about why Oliver decided not to recite the definition of torture. Could it be because he's a comedian and reciting definitions out the Geneva Convention isn't very entertaining? Lets rehash: 1. missed the joke. 2. non-sequitur. 3. totally !@#$ing stupid point of its own merit. let's rehash: 1) most of the jokes here are not humorous. many are written as jabs and pokes.2) the definition of troll truly is ambiguous. there was an excellent recent npr discussion on it's history, techniques and motivations. they are relevant to this discussion. you may want to edumicate yourself. 3) "it is so because i say so" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) let's rehash: 1) most of the jokes here are not humorous. many are written as jabs and pokes.2) the definition of troll truly is ambiguous. there was an excellent recent npr discussion on it's history, techniques and motivations. they are relevant to this discussion. you may want to edumicate yourself. 3) "it is so because i say so" More non-sequiturs. Oh, NPR discussed internet trolls? Really? That's interesting because it has !@#$ all to do with your inability to grasp even the most obvious joke which was pointed squarely at Oliver and equated his brand of humor with means of torture. Funny or not, we can debate, but obvious, it absolutely !@#$ing was. But I should educate myself because of...more non-sequiturs? Insightful as always, birdog. Edited June 16, 2015 by Jauronimo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 let's rehash: 1) most of the jokes here are not humorous. many are written as jabs and pokes.2) the definition of troll truly is ambiguous. there was an excellent recent npr discussion on it's history, techniques and motivations. they are relevant to this discussion. you may want to edumicate yourself. 3) "it is so because i say so" Priceless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 except that olifver doesn't attempt to define it likely because there are definitions available in resources such as the geneva convention The Geneva Convention doesn't define torture. There actually is no consistent definition. I was using examples documented in the Center of Constitutional Rights report on Gitmo. The best you'll probably find is from the UN's Convention on Torture...but it's so vague and broad ("severe pain or suffering," "with the consent of a public official," "does not include lawful sanction") that it amounts to "Whatever the Committee on Torture decides it doesn't like," and thus includes such bull **** as "obesity," and is virtually useless. let's rehash: 1) most of the jokes here are not humorous. many are written as jabs and pokes.2) the definition of troll truly is ambiguous. there was an excellent recent npr discussion on it's history, techniques and motivations. they are relevant to this discussion. you may want to edumicate yourself. 3) "it is so because i say so" The definition of troll truly is ambiguous...but when I demonstrate the definition of "torture" is ambiguous, I'm obfuscating. You !@#$head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 More non-sequiturs. Oh, NPR discussed internet trolls? Really? That's interesting because it has !@#$ all to do with your inability to grasp even the most obvious joke which was pointed squarely at Oliver and equated his brand of humor with means of torture. Funny or not, we can debate, but obvious, it absolutely !@#$ing was. But I should educate myself because of...more non-sequiturs? Insightful as always, birdog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) The Geneva Convention doesn't define torture. There actually is no consistent definition. I was using examples documented in the Center of Constitutional Rights report on Gitmo. The best you'll probably find is from the UN's Convention on Torture...but it's so vague and broad ("severe pain or suffering," "with the consent of a public official," "does not include lawful sanction") that it amounts to "Whatever the Committee on Torture decides it doesn't like," and thus includes such bull **** as "obesity," and is virtually useless. The definition of troll truly is ambiguous...but when I demonstrate the definition of "torture" is ambiguous, I'm obfuscating. You !@#$head. for the second time in this thread: For the pistachio and strawberry mousse: 8 oz (240gr) mascarpone cheese, at room temperature 1/2 cup (100gr) sugar 1/4 cup (30gr) finely ground raw pistachios 1/2 cup pureed fresh strawberries 1 1/2 cups (375ml) heavy cream, kept cold, divided In a large bowl, whisk together the mascarpone and sugar until completely smooth. Take half the mixture and place it in another large bowl. Add the pistachios to one of them and mix until incorporated. Add the pureed strawberries to the other mascarpone mixture. In a mixer, whip the heavy cream to stiff peaks. Fold half into the pistachio mascarpone mix and the other half with the strawberry one. The pistachio mousse is probably stifff enough to be used right away but you might have to refrigerate the strawberry one until the mascarpone hardens a bit otherwise it might be too soft to pipe easily. Divide the mixture into piping bags fitted with medium plain tips (or do the pistachio mousse first, wash your bag and tip and then do the strawberry one). Pipe dots of mousse onto half the puff pastry sheets, alternating the pistachio and strawberry. Top with another sheet of puff pastry and refrigerate at least 30 minutes. oops. sorry. that's actually the opposite of torture. was made for me this weekend. this is torture per the geneva convention: "Article 1 "1. For the purposes of this Convention, the term "torture" means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful sanctions." Edited June 17, 2015 by birdog1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 If you think I'm a liberal, or in any way in favor of big government, you're not paying attention. I guess you and I are going to go through this yet again because you're obviously a somewhat defensive dude. I didn't respond to any post of YOURS with any accusation of the like. When I'm insulting you directly, you won't have to infer. If you don't understand that already, you're not paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 this is torture per the geneva convention: "Article 1 "1. For the purposes of this Convention, the term "torture" means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful sanctions." No it's not. It's from the UN Convention on torture, which I already quoted. Try to be more of an ignorant ****head on this topic. I dare you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 No it's not. It's from the UN Convention on torture, which I already quoted. Try to be more of an ignorant ****head on this topic. I dare you. holy shite…so reddogblitz is yet another pseudonym of yours? you planted that quote or alternatively you ignored "his" mistake until now? that's truly pathetic. you win…the award for best cheater in an argument. well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 holy shite…so reddogblitz is yet another pseudonym of yours? you planted that quote or alternatively you ignored "his" mistake until now? that's truly pathetic. you win…the award for best cheater in an argument. well done. What the !@#$ are you talking about? Does anyone know what the !@#$ birddog is talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 What the !@#$ are you talking about? Does anyone know what the !@#$ birddog is talking about? You ignoring reddogblitz is all part of your master plan to win a debate on PPP. Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 You ignoring reddogblitz is all part of your master plan to win a debate on PPP. Brilliant. except that he's clearly not ignoring me and i quoted that misidentified passage a few posts after reddogblitz. try again…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 except that he's clearly not ignoring me and i quoted that misidentified passage a few posts after reddogblitz. try again…. I didn't say he was ignoring you, I said he was ignoring reddogblitz and it's all part of his master plan to win a debate on PPP. That's exactly what you're accusing him of doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 What the !@#$ are you talking about? Does anyone know what the !@#$ birddog is talking about? You haven't corrected every mistake in this topic by every poster. Birddog is upset that reddog didn't get corrected. You aren't giving your fair share. Everyone's entitled to equal criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Reddog posted something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Reddog posted something? You must have forgotten to login as gatorman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 except that he's clearly not ignoring me and i quoted that misidentified passage a few posts after reddogblitz. try again…. So you're using reddogblitz as a source, and I'm somehow the problem? Just shut the !@#$ up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 What the !@#$ are you talking about? Does anyone know what the !@#$ birddog is talking about? Yes. He's clearly torturing us. It's not as effective as water-boarding, but that's only because we can step away from the thread for a break. I'm still waiting for the UN report on our torture tactics at Gitmo that included pulling fingernails out with pliers, pushing glass rods up penises and whacking them with a hammer, hanging people by their hands - when they're tied behind their back (John McCain's favorite exercise), bayonetting strategic areas, acid baths, hot pokers in the genitalia, etc. You know - like what the Japanese and North Koreans did to our troops. I'll forgo the death marches, beheadings, starvation of thousands of service men. I'm certain we did that to those folks in Gitmo too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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