hondo in seattle Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 Even though Brady's statistics were solid last year, there are signs he's getting old. He doesn't seem to throw deep balls with the same authority and precision as when he was younger. Last season the Pats started 2-2. This season, with Garoppolo under center, I can easily see them matching that. One of their games is against the Jags. With Belichick as coach, I'm guessing they'll find a way to pick up at least one other "W" during the Garofalo stretch. So Brady will get to rest his aging arm for four weeks and when he returns, the Pats won't be in a bad place. At Brady's age, that layoff has got to make a positive difference. I'm glad Brady was suspended because there needs to be consequences for cheating. I'm just not sure how much it will help us in the long run. (My apologies if this line of thinking has been offered elsewhere).
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 year after year I say Brady* is getting too old. One of these years I'll be right. but as seen Belicheat finds a new way to skirt the rules until he gets a slap on the wrist and moves on to another tactic Even though Brady's statistics were solid last year, there are signs he's getting old. He doesn't seem to throw deep balls with the same authority and precision as when he was younger. (My apologies if this line of thinking has been offered elsewhere). IIRC he's typical pass is between 5 to 10 yds with an occasional 15 to 20.
boyst Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 It also forces to the forefront that they need a plan for the future but I expect Belichick to retire with Brady
LeGOATski Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 Or it helps them by worsening their W-L record so they get a better draft pick. They just won another Super Bowl. If they wanted, they could tank this season for the next franchise QB.
Best Player Available Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 Even though Brady's statistics were solid last year, there are signs he's getting old. He doesn't seem to throw deep balls with the same authority and precision as when he was younger. Last season the Pats started 2-2. This season, with Garoppolo under center, I can easily see them matching that. One of their games is against the Jags. With Belichick as coach, I'm guessing they'll find a way to pick up at least one other "W" during the Garofalo stretch. So Brady will get to rest his aging arm for four weeks and when he returns, the Pats won't be in a bad place. At Brady's age, that layoff has got to make a positive difference. I'm glad Brady was suspended because there needs to be consequences for cheating. I'm just not sure how much it will help us in the long run. (My apologies if this line of thinking has been offered elsewhere). Solid? He is the super bowl MVP. i think he is done.
Jauronimo Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 I know it sounds crazy but I think losing their best player for two games will not help them at all unless the goal is to lose those 2 games.
starrymessenger Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 I know it sounds crazy but I think losing their best player for two games will not help them at all unless the goal is to lose those 2 games. And y'know I'd go so far as to say that it will be twice as bad if he's out four games. Actually it wiould be more than twice. I think it could gut their season. I could easily see 0/3 or even 0/4.
hondo in seattle Posted June 12, 2015 Author Posted June 12, 2015 (edited) I know it sounds crazy but I think losing their best player for two games will not help them at all unless the goal is to lose those 2 games. Yep, I get that point of view. But the rigors of an NFL season are hard on an old QB. I remember when George Blanda was too old to start at QB and backed up Lamonica in Oakland. Blanda played well in spot duty because his arm was fresh. Brady hasn't reached that time in his career where he is no longer a capable starter. But he has, I think, reached a point where a little rest could be a good thing for him. Edited June 12, 2015 by hondo in seattle
Jauronimo Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 And y'know I'd go so far as to say that it will be twice as bad if he's out four games. Actually it wiould be more than twice. I think it could gut their season. I could easily see 0/3 or even 0/4. Ha, looks like I've already accepted or conditioned myself for the inevitable appeal and subsequent reduction to 2 games. Good call.
starrymessenger Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 Ha, looks like I've already accepted or conditioned myself for the inevitable appeal and subsequent reduction to 2 games. Good call. A reduction to 2 games certainly would not be surprising. On the other hand, unless Brady can bring something new to the discussion, which I doubt he can, I would not be at all surprised if the commish stood his ground.
LeviF Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 If they can go 2-2 in those first four games, I can see where you're coming from. Starting 0-4 would be a different story. Winning 10 of 12 (assuming 10 wins is what's needed to get to the postseason) is a lot harder than winning 8 of 12 regardless of how rested your late-30s QB is.
eball Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 If Brady*'s four games are upheld the Pats** are staring 1-3 in the face (I'll give them Jacksonville). That isn't "good" for them no matter how you slice it.
DrDawkinstein Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 (edited) Or it helps them by worsening their W-L record so they get a better draft pick. They just won another Super Bowl. If they wanted, they could tank this season for the next franchise QB. Except they have no 1st round pick, so the earliest they are picking is 32nd overall. If there is a franchise QB still there, I'd be amazed. (And pissed that we didnt take him ourselves) Edited June 12, 2015 by DrDareustein
Kirby Jackson Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 Even though Brady's statistics were solid last year, there are signs he's getting old. He doesn't seem to throw deep balls with the same authority and precision as when he was younger. Last season the Pats started 2-2. This season, with Garoppolo under center, I can easily see them matching that. One of their games is against the Jags. With Belichick as coach, I'm guessing they'll find a way to pick up at least one other "W" during the Garofalo stretch. So Brady will get to rest his aging arm for four weeks and when he returns, the Pats won't be in a bad place. At Brady's age, that layoff has got to make a positive difference. I'm glad Brady was suspended because there needs to be consequences for cheating. I'm just not sure how much it will help us in the long run. (My apologies if this line of thinking has been offered elsewhere). The short answer is no because of the improvement in the division. This isn't like resting LeBron in the middle of the season because you know that you will have a top 4 seed in the East regardless. If the Pats start 1-3 for example they will need to finish like 10-2 to win the division (or have a chance).
Nick the Greek Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 It's good for the Bills, that's who it's good for. We always find a way to lose tho, I'm not getting my hopes up.
starrymessenger Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 The short answer is no because of the improvement in the division. This isn't like resting LeBron in the middle of the season because you know that you will have a top 4 seed in the East regardless. If the Pats start 1-3 for example they will need to finish like 10-2 to win the division (or have a chance). Improvement in the Division is pretty critical IMO. Bills, Finns and Jets will all be better, possibly much better. I wouldn't concede the Pats as a lock to win it even if TB had his suspension reversed (favoured at the outset ok, a lock no way).
Mr. WEO Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Didn't everyone say they were done after they started 2-2 last season?
billsfan_34 Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 The only thing I care about is a full blown Patriots crash into the abyss of hell. Every team in the AFC east is tough right now and it wont be a pretty lil cake walk for Bill rottencrotch and crew. Lets crush w Brady w garrapalo I dont care!
PlayoffsPlease Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 They are probably going to change the suspension to two games, and let the Patriots chose which two. That way they can optimize Brady getting a rest.
Nick the Greek Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Didn't everyone say they were done after they started 2-2 last season?I think they destroyed by the Chiefs by like 40 points as well
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