BuffaloMatt Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 TT- College highlights https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vHJTeM4S3I EJ College highlights https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkxbQ-G1-ok What do you think? I have my opinion (not agenda) after looking at both sides of this coin. IMO. TT.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 show me game film this year and I will provide you feedback,
John from Riverside Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I am gonna just say it I worry about run first QBs because they always seem to get hurt. Now.....If Tyrod Taylor can be one of those "I will run when I HAVE to" QBs that can take advantage of all this deep speed receiving core we now have......I have no problem giving him a shot
thebandit27 Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I don't think it's worthwhile to look at highlight reels. I find it much more revealing to look at every throw of every game that you can. Here's what's available in that regard for EJ: http://draftbreakdown.com/players/ej-manuel/ Unfortunately there just isn't this breath of video available on Taylor. Not sure why, but my guess would be it's because he simply wasn't a very highly-touted prospect coming out of VT. If someone finds an extensive video of Taylor (like the EJ videos above, where you can watch every single throw from a bunch of games), then I'll be happy to do the legwork and make a comparison.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 show me game film this year and I will provide you feedback, EJ: Tyrod: Meh:
Deranged Rhino Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Every time I read "Meh" Cassell I laugh. Every damn time. EJ: Tyrod: Meh:
John from Riverside Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I honestly dont get the "Meh" with Castle.....that ball was thrown perfectly on a comeback route......textbook....right where the receiver could get it and and space before the sideline to turn the ball upfield for additonal yards....... I dont really have a dog in this QB fight anymore because there things I like and dont like about all these guys.....
Deranged Rhino Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I honestly dont get the "Meh" with Castle.....that ball was thrown perfectly on a comeback route......textbook....right where the receiver could get it and and space before the sideline to turn the ball upfield for additonal yards....... I dont really have a dog in this QB fight anymore because there things I like and dont like about all these guys..... To me, that's why it's funny. I don't think it reflects his abilities, but it seems to reflect his personality.
OldTimer1960 Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 To me, that's why it's funny. I don't think it reflects his abilities, but it seems to reflect his personality. I think it reflects his 10 year career and especially the last 4 years and 30 games where he put up 30 TDs and 34 INTS. That is pretty "meh"
Deranged Rhino Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I think it reflects his 10 year career and especially the last 4 years and 30 games where he put up 30 TDs and 34 INTS. That is pretty "meh" That as well.
YattaOkasan Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 That as well. I like the name because it fit my feelings when we signed him.
Dorkington Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 So Tyrod throws at buckets and EJ/Cassel throw at football players?
ko12010 Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 TT- College highlights https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vHJTeM4S3I EJ College highlights https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkxbQ-G1-ok What do you think? I have my opinion (not agenda) after looking at both sides of this coin. IMO. TT. I think if we're just comparing these two particular highlight videos, EJ looks better. But, I've seen other Tyrod highlight vids and he has an intriguing skill set. Like other posters have already said, we need more NFL tape of both these guys to even make an argument either way. It doesn't much matter at this point what their weaknesses were years ago and against college players, it matters how much they've improved, and by all accounts both are extremely hard workers who are relentless in their pursuit to be great QBs. I don't think EJ gets enough credit for how hard he is to take down. He moves in the pocket pretty well and has a good sense of when and where pressure is coming from. He's also big and strong, and after adding 10lbs of muscle this offseason will be even tougher. He showed good ability and placement on most of those throws. Some caused his receivers to slow up and reduced YAC. What I see in that video is a solid prospect who obviously needed to improve and would require a few pro years at least. I still like him. Tyrod has that electric Mike Vick ability to run circles around people to extend plays. That's something very very few people have ever had in the NFL at that position. Kaep is crazy fast but Tyrod is insanely quick with his movements, like Vick. He also throws a solid ball and maybe had a bit better sense with leading his receivers in college than EJ. If Tyrod learned from Flacco and improved, he could be our Russell Wilson. He did take some big hits in that video, so I hope he has learned to avoid that. Both guys are solid prospects and I'm really excited to see their battle come training camp. I'd be shocked if we don't keep all 3 for the whole season also. Even if EJ or Tyrod loses in training camp, they're still young and could get better. I like both guys.
John from Riverside Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I think it reflects his 10 year career and especially the last 4 years and 30 games where he put up 30 TDs and 34 INTS. That is pretty "meh" OK......so Did you bother to look at his games with the vikings before he got hurt last year? If you can get past the fact that he is not a "Franchise QB" there is still a lot to like in his game.
chris heff Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Like I said in another thread, the team is better off if the starter is either Taylor or Manuel and whichever it is has succes. Nothing against Cassel, but if he starts that means back to square one next off season.
ko12010 Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 To me, that's why it's funny. I don't think it reflects his abilities, but it seems to reflect his personality. He's actually a pretty cool guy it seems. Well spoken, personable.
buffalover4life Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Unfortunately there just isn't this breath of video available on Taylor. Not sure why, but my guess would be it's because he simply wasn't a very highly-touted prospect coming out of VT. If someone finds an extensive video of Taylor (like the EJ videos above, where you can watch every single throw from a bunch of games), then I'll be happy to do the legwork and make a comparison. The footage was not as widely available back in 2009. Youtube was really starting to blow up in terms of content.
Deranged Rhino Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 He's actually a pretty cool guy it seems. Well spoken, personable. He is, I've met him twice and always found him to be a good dude. Which is another reason the name makes me laugh. I'm just messed in the head more than likely.
Rivermont Mike Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Every time I read "Meh" Cassell I laugh. Every damn time. That receiver that Taylor is throwing to looks a little stiff. Undrafted FA?
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