shrader Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Is it a participation trophy or is it a school trying to pad their stats?
Gugny Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 They put the requirements out ahead of time and the kids met them. It's an incentive to do well and to be active in the community. I've got no problem with it.
Beerball Posted June 5, 2015 Author Posted June 5, 2015 They put the requirements out ahead of time and the kids met them. It's an incentive to do well and to be active in the community. I've got no problem with it. val·e·dic·to·ri·an ˌvalədikˈtôrēən/ noun a student, typically having the highest academic achievements of the class, who delivers the valedictory at a graduation ceremony.
The Poojer Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 'zackly....a participation award would be like letting me be one of the valedictorian awards with my solid below average gpa....these kids had perfect gpa and stellar test scores...good for them They put the requirements out ahead of time and the kids met them. It's an incentive to do well and to be active in the community. I've got no problem with it.
Gugny Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 val·e·dic·to·ri·an ˌvalədikˈtôrēən/ noun a student, typically having the highest academic achievements of the class, who delivers the valedictory at a graduation ceremony. Perhaps they're misusing the term "valedictorian." I'm just opining that the program they've come up with is purely positive.
Beerball Posted June 5, 2015 Author Posted June 5, 2015 Perhaps they're misusing the term "valedictorian." I'm just opining that the program they've come up with is purely positive. You're right, everybody wins.
shrader Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Perhaps they're misusing the term "valedictorian." I'm just opining that the program they've come up with is purely positive. I'll stick to my thought that the school created a system to make them (the school) look better than they actually are. Call it grade inflation or whatever you want, something's a bit fishy there.
The Poojer Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) I'd agree, but they also have to score 29 and 1200 or better on the ACT and SAT, Crap, 1200 used to be a good score, didn't realize it was based on 2400 these days. 29 is still a good ACT score, right? I'll stick to my thought that the school created a system to make them (the school) look better than they actually are. Call it grade inflation or whatever you want, something's a bit fishy there. Edited June 5, 2015 by The Poojer
shrader Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I'd agree, but they also have to score 29 and 1200 or better on the ACT and SAT, Wait, only 1200? I missed that number when I read the story. Isn't that incredibly low. That was a solid but not spectacular score in our days, but isn't the max score now 2400? The ACT, I have no clue what scores are supposed to be on that one. Anyway, I'm not sure why those standardized tests factor in at all.
LeviF Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 1200 might be the combined math/reading, since nobody cares about the writing section.
Jauronimo Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 1200 might be the combined math/reading, since nobody cares about the writing section. 1200 on the old 1600 format isn't impressive.
Gugny Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 You're right, everybody wins. No. 7.3% won. They shouldn't all be named Valedictorian, but they sure as hell deserve recognition. Getting just the diploma is a participation award for the other 92.7% of the kids.
KD in CA Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Is it a participation trophy or is it a school trying to pad their stats? This. Nothing wrong with recognizing multiple valedictorians if more than one had perfect academic records, but when it reaches this level it's obvious the school has set the perfection bar too low. The battle among top students to win the title used to be an important competition in high school.
Beerball Posted June 5, 2015 Author Posted June 5, 2015 The schools in Dublin changed from one valedictorian to many in 2008 to make more students eligible for certain scholarships, a principal told The Columbus Dispatch. http://www.ydr.com/offbeat/ci_28256517/200-valedictorians-some-high-schools-have-many-instead
DC Tom Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Perhaps they're misusing the term "valedictorian." I'm just opining that the program they've come up with is purely positive. Misusing it badly. When I was valedictorian, all the other elite-but-not-quite-valedictorian students had to settle for graduating "with honors." 1200 might be the combined math/reading, since nobody cares about the writing section. A 1200 overall is around the 50th percentile or so. A 1200.on math and reading is 80th percentile.
LeviF Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 Misusing it badly. When I was valedictorian, all the other elite-but-not-quite-valedictorian students had to settle for graduating "with honors." One poor soul in that class earned the title of "salutatorian" which, in addition to the ignominy of being the first loser, had the added curse of being seated next to you at graduation.
The Poojer Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 It should be based on school grades only. Why "punish" a 5(?).0 student who doesn't need act or sat for his/her next stop in life. So if a group have equal grades, whether it's 2 or 50. They all reached the same accomplishment. Here's an easy solution: combined highest SAT and ACT score is the tie breaker.
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