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I know that there was a thread about this, but, I couldn't find it. I'll happily merge if someone points it out to me.

 

As always, please leave politics out of the discussion.

 

Sure seems like a needless money grab by NFL teams.

 

http://wtop.com/nfl/2015/06/senators-push-for-end-to-military-paying-nfl-to-honor-troops/

imo take Gov'ment out of the title and you might succeed in keeping it non political

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I bet we see a couple good melts in this thread if it gets any discussion

IIRC the professional NFL team that plays in Orchard Park also held out their hand.

 

It seems the nfl and military both treat it more as advertising/marketing than honoring. And if they are willing to sell the military time to do what they want with- and the military wants to buy it.....

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It seems the nfl and military both treat it more as advertising/marketing than honoring. And if they are willing to sell the military time to do what they want with- and the military wants to buy it.....

Call it what you will, the Bills called it Salute to Service.

 

http://www.dailypublic.com/articles/05102015/bills-getting-paid-honor-military

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I bet we see a couple good melts in this thread if it gets any discussion

 

 

It seems the nfl and military both treat it more as advertising/marketing than honoring. And if they are willing to sell the military time to do what they want with- and the military wants to buy it.....

Call it what you will, the Bills called it Salute to Service.

 

http://www.dailypublic.com/articles/05102015/bills-getting-paid-honor-military

That's how I'm reading it, the military is just another advertiser for the NFL/Bills, like how the National Guard sponsored Dale Jr.'s car for several years.

 

http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2014/8/7/national-guard-sponsor-dale-earnhardt-jr-hendrick-motorsports.html

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That's how I'm reading it, the military is just another advertiser for the NFL/Bills, like how the National Guard sponsored Dale Jr.'s car for several years.

 

http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2014/8/7/national-guard-sponsor-dale-earnhardt-jr-hendrick-motorsports.html

Except that paint on a race car is rather obvious and everyone know how it got there. If anyone assumed that the Bills were getting paid for these "tributes" I wonder why they never spoke up. It's not dirty but it isn't clean either (to me).

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Eyedunno. Should the Army stop advertising on TV then? I don't think there's a marketing ploy that isn't in play wrt both the NFL and the US armed forces. Think of it as a symbiotic partnership.

Again (I may sound like I'm up in arms about this, I'm really not), advertising is what it is. It's obvious and everyone knows money changes hands. That wasn't the case here. If the Bills (and other teams) need a cash incentive to salute the military then there's a problem.

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Not many threads here piss me off. This one does. The people writing the checks on behalf of the military (being stupid enough to do it) are just as much to blame as the NFL (being scummy enough to demand/take it).

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The Bills were #3 on the list of teams earning the most from such "advertising." Somethings around $600K IIRC. It's one thing to advertise recruitment for money. It's another honor soldiers that way. Bad form.

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No disrespect to the military (I did not serve but greatly appreciate all they have done and continue to do), but this is one of many reasons why our country is now 18 trillion in debt. They simply should not be funding these events. Until we start seeing surpluses (likely never again), there is no $$ for this purpose. In fact, there is no money. We are borrowing to keep the country going. Anyway, GO BILLS!

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As a combat veteran who has attended games where the Bills did their "Salute to Service" in hindsight, it feels insincere, considering they were paid to do so.

 

I'm all for the NFL and their franchises being successful, but honoring the military should be something you do out of the goodness of your organization, not because someone paid you to do it.

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Says the man who doesn't want this to turn political. :doh:

my quote was blank Why?

the tile itself invites it. so why criticize

 

FTR based on knowing posters here .... there is no way this doesn't go political.

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This whole "Breaking Story" had me laughing from day one.

 

From my understanding, this money was spent on Sponsorships. This had nothing to do with "Honoring Vets" or "Salute to Soldiers".

 

Just with any other company, sponsorship money came with advertisements. Verizon, Bud Light, etc all do it. They pay money, their name/logo gets blasted.

 

I felt this was the case with the National Guard and now found an old article that talked about a true "Sponsorship".

 

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-2/Bills-and-National-Guard-announce-partnership/8901b292-43a5-44be-91d5-ba4f678c81ca

 

This just talks about 1 little portion, but I can safely assume there were similar deals to cover the other money for advertisement portions. This deal in 2011 (Ironically we got $29k from Air Force and spent at least $22k on the 11 week program to coaches) probably led to similar and larger types of advertisement deals/partnerships.


http://www.sponsorship.com/IEGSR/2012/02/21/Despite-Budget-Cutbacks,-U-S--Armed-Forces-Remain.aspx

 

U.S. Air Force
Maj. Bobby Holland, chief of event marketing, Air Force Recruiting Service
210/565-4678

Target/Objectives/Key Activations: The U.S. Air Force has significantly reduced its sponsorship portfolio over the past few years, dropping ties with the Professional Drifting Championship Series, Professional Bull Riders and other properties. Despite the cutbacks, the Air Force continues to ink new deals. The military branch in Sept. 2011 announced a new partnership with the NFL Buffalo Bills, a deal that afforded signage in Ralph Wilson Stadium and presence on www.BuffaloBills.com.


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000092380/printable/nfl-teams-to-honor-armed-forces-in-salute-to-service-campaign

 

Buffalo Bills

Army, Air Force, Navy, Marines, and Coast Guard

The Army National Guard serves as the Bills' "Salute to Service" game-day sponsor. The pregame ceremony will feature 150 guardsmen unfurling a full-field flag as 50,000 seated fans present a stadium-wide thank you message to the troops with placards. During halftime, the National Guard will also take part in an oath re-affirmation ceremony.

 

 

All this has been mentioned in the past, however no one decided to put 2 and 2 together until the Financial numbers were released..

 

When something is a sponsor, money changes hands...

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