Tiberius Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/05/the-gop-is-dying-off-literally-118035.html?ml=po#.VVtoa1VViko Since the average Republican is significantly older than the average Democrat, far more Republicans than Democrats have died since the 2012 elections. To make matters worse, the GOP is attracting fewer first-time voters. Unless the party is able to make inroads with new voters, or discover a fountain of youth, the GOP’s slow demographic slide will continue election to election. Actuarial tables make that part clear, but just how much of a problem for the GOP is this? Since it appears that no political data geek keeps track of voters who die between elections, I took it upon myself to do some basic math. And that quick back-of-the-napkin math shows that the trend could have a real effect in certain states, and make a battleground states like Florida and Ohio even harder for the Republican Party to capture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I view American Politics as a Ying and a Yang. Two contrary forces that compliment one another that serve as a counterbalance. I don't see there being a huge imbalance for an extended period of time. It's possible that the two parties may both drift in a certain direction, as what we are seeing today on the social aspect, but I believe that's as far it will go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/05/the-gop-is-dying-off-literally-118035.html?ml=po#.VVtoa1VViko from the article: The [GOP] does rely too much on older and white voters, and especially in rural areas, deaths from this group can be significant,” Frey says. “But millennials (born 1981 to 1997) now are larger in numbers than baby boomers ([born] 1946 to 1964), and how they vote will make the big difference. And the data says that if Republicans focus on economic issues and stay away from social ones like gay marriage, they can make serious inroads with millennials.” Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/05/the-gop-is-dying-off-literally-118035.html#ixzz3abcztDJm that's a big if. so far i don't see much evidence that front running national or local repubs are going to follow suit. they are beholden to groups that prioritize conservative social issues. . Edited May 19, 2015 by birdog1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 from the article: The [GOP] does rely too much on older and white voters, and especially in rural areas, deaths from this group can be significant,” Frey says. “But millennials (born 1981 to 1997) now are larger in numbers than baby boomers ([born] 1946 to 1964), and how they vote will make the big difference. And the data says that if Republicans focus on economic issues and stay away from social ones like gay marriage, they can make serious inroads with millennials.” Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/05/the-gop-is-dying-off-literally-118035.html#ixzz3abcztDJm . Totally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Nothing warms the cockles of a gator's heart like contemplating the death of Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Might be a good thing. The old, stuffy, up-tight socially conservative stereotype isn't good for branding. A more masculine no-bull **** image contrasts well against the limp-wristed, "my other penis is a vagina", politically correct, kitty boy image of the Dems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Totally Except they can't drop issues like gay marriage because the left keeps talking about how much they want it. And instead of respecting people's religious convictions, the Christians get mocked for it, and then the left media piles on with more mocking, and then nutsuckers like birdog suddenly repeat for the umpteenth time that the right needs to stop talking about something that the left keeps talking about. If only liberals were as tolerant of Christian beliefs as they are of Muslim beliefs. I mean, if a Christian believes marriage is strictly between a man and a woman, its blasphemy. But if a Muslim tries to murder someone who was drawing a cartoon, the cartoonist had it coming. It's a no-win for Christian conservatives, so to ask them to stop responding to questions about gay marriage is a fool's journey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 The OP got me wondering how many younger democrats change affiliation as they start to mature with the reality of the real world. We all know that there is some truth to the old line that a if a young person isn't a liberal then he has no heart, while if an older person isn't conservative then they have no brain. Well I Googled "Democrats changing affiliation" and a few other variations but couldn't find any statistics regarding what I was looking for. All I got were articles on how to change affiliation and articles about voting machines in Illinois and Maryland automatically changing republican votes to democrat votes. The author didn't link any of his sources and called his research "back of the napkin". Nice opinion piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Except they can't drop issues like gay marriage because the left keeps talking about how much they want it. And instead of respecting people's religious convictions, the Christians get mocked for it, and then the left media piles on with more mocking, and then nutsuckers like birdog suddenly repeat for the umpteenth time that the right needs to stop talking about something that the left keeps talking about. If only liberals were as tolerant of Christian beliefs as they are of Muslim beliefs. I mean, if a Christian believes marriage is strictly between a man and a woman, its blasphemy. But if a Muslim tries to murder someone who was drawing a cartoon, the cartoonist had it coming. It's a no-win for Christian conservatives, so to ask them to stop responding to questions about gay marriage is a fool's journey. Unfortunately, you are right. As you know I am the farthest thing from being a social conservative, however I respect those that have a differing view due to their religious beliefs, as long as they are respectful. But you gotta admit, social issues use to be a wedge issue that the right used to employ to win elections and it use to put liberals in a bind. The tables have turned, I suppose what was good for the goose is good for the gander? My guess is that within the next decade or so you won't see politicians wear their religious beliefs on a sleeve (aside from some deeply red rural areas) as they use to, and that's not a bad thing. Doesn't mean they have to abandon their religious views, it just means that they won't be running on a socially conservative agenda. My view is that politics and religion shouldn't really mix anyway. I'm not saying that some of the values that Christians espouse should be put in a lock box, actually I believe many of those values are useful, just that they need to be repackaged more so for the 21st century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 At some point younger voters will wake up and realize that older politicians have put their country in a bad place fiscally. That will probably require a very large wake up call as so many voters are in a deep sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 19, 2015 Author Share Posted May 19, 2015 At some point younger voters will wake up and realize that older politicians have put their country in a bad place fiscally. That will probably require a very large wake up call as so many voters are in a deep sleep. What? You mean younger voters will vote to slash the biggest government programs like Socialist Security and Medicare? A generational war! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 At some point younger voters will wake up and realize that older politicians have put their country in a bad place fiscally. That will probably require a very large wake up call as so many voters are in a deep sleep. You'd think so. Look at Greece, it's clear to anyone who understands math, that the unsustainable promises made to the public by leftist politicians was the determining factor in the mess they are in, yet if you look in see who is in power today, it's an uber left socialist party. Never underestimate the power of the demonization of money from faux populists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) Except they can't drop issues like gay marriage because the left keeps talking about how much they want it. And instead of respecting people's religious convictions, the Christians get mocked for it, and then the left media piles on with more mocking, and then nutsuckers like birdog suddenly repeat for the umpteenth time that the right needs to stop talking about something that the left keeps talking about. If only liberals were as tolerant of Christian beliefs as they are of Muslim beliefs. I mean, if a Christian believes marriage is strictly between a man and a woman, its blasphemy. But if a Muslim tries to murder someone who was drawing a cartoon, the cartoonist had it coming. It's a no-win for Christian conservatives, so to ask them to stop responding to questions about gay marriage is a fool's journey. hmmmm....have you seen the thread on the pope? he's a Christian and many liberals like him a great deal. and that terry schiavo thing http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp058062....brilliantly engineered by the left. the bombings of abortion clinic as well. Edited May 19, 2015 by birdog1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/05/the-gop-is-dying-off-literally-118035.html?ml=po#.VVtoa1VViko Reveling in the death of others. Just more proof that the left are isis level cruel. Not that any more were needed as history is littered with leftist goons murdering millions. After all us conservative and libertarians are dead and gone and there is no US left as we know it. Maybe some North American Union where the very advanced central americans help themselves to your taxes, I don't think it's going to be the glorious socialist utiopia you envision. On one hand just to spite I really hope you get what you want. On the other hand I'm sad people I care about will also be dragged into that hell. Edited May 19, 2015 by Dante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 My guess is that within the next decade or so you won't see politicians wear their religious beliefs on a sleeve (aside from some deeply red rural areas) as they use to, and that's not a bad thing. Until we have another 9/11 and all the people who regularly mock Christians stand on the steps of the Capital singing "God Bless America." It's very easy to make fun of those who follow Christ. The question, however, is are they still able to mock Christians when the schitt is hitting their fan? Forever reminds me of lyrics from the old Harry Chapin "Bananas" song: "His foot hit the breaks to slow him down, but the pedal floored easy without a sound. "He yelled 'CHRIST!' It was funny how he named the only man who could save him now." Those who mock are usually the first ones on their knees when life is out of their simple control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Until we have another 9/11 and all the people who regularly mock Christians stand on the steps of the Capital singing "God Bless America." It's very easy to make fun of those who follow Christ. The question, however, is are they still able to mock Christians when the schitt is hitting their fan? Forever reminds me of lyrics from the old Harry Chapin "Bananas" song: "His foot hit the breaks to slow him down, but the pedal floored easy without a sound. "He yelled 'CHRIST!' It was funny how he named the only man who could save him now." Those who mock are usually the first ones on their knees when life is out of their simple control. i don't know a single liberal who disagrees with the principles professed by Christ. I'd argue that, in fact, on the whole, those priciples are more aligned with liberal tenets than conservative ones (hence the overwhelming acceptance and admiration for pope Francis). the disagreement is not with Christianity per se, but rather with what many consider inaccurate and self serving portrayals or interpretations of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 the disagreement is not with Christianity per se, but rather with what many consider inaccurate and self serving portrayals or interpretations of them. Funny. That's most of the disagreement people have with progressives, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Until we have another 9/11 and all the people who regularly mock Christians stand on the steps of the Capital singing "God Bless America." It's very easy to make fun of those who follow Christ. The question, however, is are they still able to mock Christians when the schitt is hitting their fan? Forever reminds me of lyrics from the old Harry Chapin "Bananas" song: "His foot hit the breaks to slow him down, but the pedal floored easy without a sound. "He yelled 'CHRIST!' It was funny how he named the only man who could save him now." Those who mock are usually the first ones on their knees when life is out of their simple control. Jesus Christ!! what a bunch of maudlin hooey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Funny. That's most of the disagreement people have with progressives, as well. explain. not following. portrayals or interpretation of what exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 LA, I think you found your own rabble-rouser as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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