MikeSpeed Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Here my take on this whole entire thread... How many games has Rex won since he came here? Zero. Let's get rid of him now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Hasn't Whaley only been in charge of the last two drafts? It seems to get complicated if we try to give him credit or ding him for any drafts or specific draft picks before the last two. I cannot give Whaley all that much credit for the Watkins pick since Watkins was viewed as the top WR in the draft going into that draft and the Bills gave up a first and fourth to get him. My view is that a GM shows drafting expertise when a player far exceeds expectations based on where he was picked or the GM bypasses more highly rated players at a specific position and drafts a player with a lower rating who turns out to be the superior player. Huh, if you don't give a GM credit when a player is viewed as being drafted as rated and meets expectations, does that mean you don't give a GM blame when a player is viewed as being drafted as rated and fails to meet expectations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleveland Rocks? Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Hasn't Whaley only been in charge of the last two drafts? It seems to get complicated if we try to give him credit or ding him for any drafts or specific draft picks before the last two. I cannot give Whaley all that much credit for the Watkins pick since Watkins was viewed as the top WR in the draft going into that draft and the Bills gave up a first and fourth to get him. My view is that a GM shows drafting expertise when a player far exceeds expectations based on where he was picked or the GM bypasses more highly rated players at a specific position and drafts a player with a lower rating who turns out to be the superior player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Hughes was Nix too. Really? I thought the trade took place after Nix had stepped down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Assuming that Gilmore/Dareus/Kyle/Mario/Cordy/A. Williams/ etc. are considered Nix guys or predecessor guys, who are the top players Whaley gets credit for. Jerry Hughes and Lesean McCoy seem to be the only two. Maybe Preston Brown. But really, other than hughes and an RB with a bloated contract has Whaley really added talent that is more than role players? Wow, where to start? Hughes and McCoy are the only two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Whaley hasn't won a SB yet. Bum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I think it pertinent to note that prior to Whaley joining the Bills as Assistant General Manager in 2010 the only "star" the Bills had in the previous decade (give or take) was a punter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) Is the OP is going to leave this thread hanging or what Edited May 19, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 This place is really amazing sometimes. Last month, I was told Nix was a bum because he inherited a team with a bunch of good players, and all the new good players were from Whaley. Now, I'm being told that all of the good players on our team are from when Nix was here, and Whaley doesnt have any/many good players representing his tenure. Couldn't it be, considering Whaley was here from the get-go of Nix's tenure, that they BOTH worked together to create the current stockpile of talent? It's always "one or the other" with Bills fans, we can't just have two nice things together. We always need one side to hate, even though the truth usually lies in the grey area in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Assuming that Gilmore/Dareus/Kyle/Mario/Cordy/A. Williams/ etc. are considered Nix guys or predecessor guys, who are the top players Whaley gets credit for. Jerry Hughes and Lesean McCoy seem to be the only two. Maybe Preston Brown. But really, other than hughes and an RB with a bloated contract has Whaley really added talent that is more than role players? Whaley was in charge of Defensive scouting under Nix, so it is likely that he was the dude pounding the table for Gilmore, Dareus, and A. Williams - I don't think it's unreasonable to categorize those guys as "Whaley Stars." Mario was kind of a no-brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 This place is really amazing sometimes. Last month, I was told Nix was a bum because he inherited a team with a bunch of good players, and all the new good players were from Whaley. Now, I'm being told that all of the good players on our team are from when Nix was here, and Whaley doesnt have any/many good players representing his tenure. Couldn't it be, considering Whaley was here from the get-go of Nix's tenure, that they BOTH worked together to create the current stockpile of talent? It's always "one or the other" with Bills fans, we can't just have two nice things together. We always need one side to hate, even though the truth usually lies in the grey area in between. Was it the same person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) Whaley was in charge of Defensive scouting under Nix, so it is likely that he was the dude pounding the table for Gilmore, Dareus, and A. Williams - I don't think it's unreasonable to categorize those guys as "Whaley Stars." Mario was kind of a no-brainer. Doubtful,anyone "pounded the table" for Dareus. My Mom would have drafted him. No one in the league expected anyone else. Edited May 19, 2015 by Best Player Available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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