quinnearlysghost88 Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 I feel like that would have been brought up either by leak, publicly or the Wells report. I don't think the Pats* would be banging the "sting operation" drum as loudly if that were the case. JMO Maybe he personally tells Kraft to tell Belicheck to make it stop. Maybe they don't listen and get caught and punished. The Pats* get to bang that "sting operation" drum because Goodell is in a position now where he cannot come forward saying the league office had prior information that the Pats* were deflating balls. If he did, the outcry would be YOU KNEW THE WHOLE TIME?! It would be a cluster. I'm not trying to be a conspiracy theorist, but I could easily see that maybe some teams were complaining about the Pats* balls, Goodell personally spoke with Kraft about it. That's a very feasible thing. Also, I honestly think the second the Colts got their hands on a Pats* ball, regardless of how it felt, they were going to turn it in. In that respect, I think them turning a ball in was premeditated. There's not way a LB, in the cold, is going to tell the 1lb or less PSI difference in a ball in the middle of a huge game, post-INT.
The Wiz Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Maybe he personally tells Kraft to tell Belicheck to make it stop. Maybe they don't listen and get caught and punished. The Pats* get to bang that "sting operation" drum because Goodell is in a position now where he cannot come forward saying the league office had prior information that the Pats* were deflating balls. If he did, the outcry would be YOU KNEW THE WHOLE TIME?! It would be a cluster. I'm not trying to be a conspiracy theorist, but I could easily see that maybe some teams were complaining about the Pats* balls, Goodell personally spoke with Kraft about it. That's a very feasible thing. Also, I honestly think the second the Colts got their hands on a Pats* ball, regardless of how it felt, they were going to turn it in. In that respect, I think them turning a ball in was premeditated. There's not way a LB, in the cold, is going to tell the 1lb or less PSI difference in a ball in the middle of a huge game, post-INT. You sure sound like one. You also make some good points on the matter though.
Gugny Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Kraft to speak at 1 from league meetings. Which time zone?
Beerball Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Which time zone?yoursExpected to for the good of the league blah blah blah
Gugny Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 yours Expected to for the good of the league blah blah blah Are you making this up? I can't find anything on the webs.
The Wiz Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) Are you making this up? I can't find anything on the webs. http://www.whdh.com/story/29102918/pats-owner-bob-kraft-expected-to-speak-from-california How do you use the internet? I typed "Bob kraft" and that was the first link. Are you that guy that types Google into the Google search engine? Edited May 19, 2015 by The Wiz
Beerball Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 http://www.whdh.com/story/29102918/pats-owner-bob-kraft-expected-to-speak-from-california How do you use the internet? . you really don't want to know
stevewin Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) PC on live now patriots.com Disagrees but has respect for commissioner. In spirit of strength of partnership of 32 teams, accept reluctantly punishment and not continue rhetoric. No appeal. Looked like his dog died. Would be interesting to know if initially he believed Brady but now realizes its all horse manure. Wonder if that makes Brady's appeal weaker now? Edited May 19, 2015 by stevewin
Kelly the Dog Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Ha. Kraft caved. He won't appeal. But he's such a dick he said its for the good of the league.
May Day 10 Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 PC on live now patriots.com Disagrees but has respect for commissioner. In spirit of strength of partnership of 32 teams, accept reluctantly punishment and not continue rhetoric. No appeal Wonder if that makes Brady's appeal weaker now? If that is what he said, right on.
Lurker Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Ha. Kraft caved. He won't appeal. But he's such a dick he said its for the good of the league. I gotta believe some of the other owners had a chat with him...
Best Player Available Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) PC on live now patriots.com Disagrees but has respect for commissioner. In spirit of strength of partnership of 32 teams, accept reluctantly punishment and not continue rhetoric. No appeal Wonder if that makes Brady's appeal weaker now? It has concluded. Kraft's very weak argument translated to English: Meeting with my attorney's it has become obvious that myself keeping this in the news cycle is not good. We have also have found that we did cheat, and have no recourse but to accept our punishment. Edited May 19, 2015 by Best Player Available
DC Tom Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Ha. Kraft caved. He won't appeal. But he's such a dick he said its for the good of the league. Now will he retract that asinine rebuttal he published attacking the league? Of course not...
MattM Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 PC on live now patriots.com Disagrees but has respect for commissioner. In spirit of strength of partnership of 32 teams, accept reluctantly punishment and not continue rhetoric. No appeal Wonder if that makes Brady's appeal weaker now? If true, looks like this whole dance was to let Kraft, not Goodell, save face. Part of me hopes Brady pushes his appeal so we can get him into court and subject to civil discovery.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 I gotta believe some of the other owners had a chat with him... "Bob, man, you're entering Al Davis territory..." is probably all it took
Kelly the Dog Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 "Bob, man, you're entering Al Davis territory..." is probably all it took I think it was more like "your star player cheated. You got caught. You are making a fool of yourself. No one believes you. You're making yourself look more foolish than ever. Cut it out or everyone will turn on you."
stevewin Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Now will he retract that asinine rebuttal he published attacking the league? Of course not... Waiting for Roger to demand an apology....
May Day 10 Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 It has concluded. Kraft's very weak argument translated to English: Meeting with my attorney's it has become obvious that myself keeping this in the news cycle is not good. We have also have found that we did cheat, and have no recourse but to accept our punishment. The Patriots would have been better off had they gotten that advice the day after the COlts game. They have driven this circus
Kelly the Dog Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 This is good for Goodell and the league unless they cut a deal to cut Brady's suspension if Kraft went along with this. I hope not and there is no reason to. Hopefully Goodell is just standing strong because he has the moral and scientific high ground.
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