johnwalter Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 (edited) Everyone's fired up about the Brady suspension and what it means for his legacy, but I think the most interesting aspect of this whole situation is the fact that we're going to get an early glimpse of the Garoppolo-Belichick duo and what the future of our division holds once Brady retires. Garoppolo has looked very good in his opportunities so far, and Belichick has said some very nice things about him. I'm not saying "DOOMED" - I'm just saying this guy has me more worried for the future of Buffalo and the AFCE than Tannehill. Can someone knowledgable about QB play fill me in... what are we in for with Garoppolo? Edited May 13, 2015 by johnwalter
YoloinOhio Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 (edited) I wasn't high on him coming out of college. Thought he was about the 7th best qb in the draft last year. One read offense, very shaky pocket presence. Only time I saw him play last season was against the Bills and wasn't impressed even with the Bills missing several key starters on D. I'm sure he will be more prepared going into this season but he lacks skill players aside from Gronk. Edited May 13, 2015 by YoloinOhio
Doc Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 When did he look good? Certainly not in his most extensive action: the Bills game. His other appearances were the on the bad end and the good end of blowouts.
Kelly the Dog Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 I wasn't high on him coming out of college. Thought he was about the 7th best qb in the draft last year. One read offense, very shaky pocket presence. Only time I saw him play last season was against the Bills and wasn't impressed even with the Bills missing several key starters on D. I'm sure he will be more prepared going into this season but he lacks skill players aside from Gronk. I saw the games. He looked good running. That's it.
Webster Guy Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 Belichick will retire when Brady does. He has nothing to gain and everything to lose if he stays. I'm sure gonna miss his fun personality and enthusiasm. And his integrity, player loyalty and charismatic interview sessions.
Thurman#1 Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 (edited) He didn't look good against the Bills, but our defense made a lot of QBs look bad last year. He was pretty good in his other appearances (6 for 7 for 70 yards, a TD and no INTs against the Chiefs and 3 for 3 for 22 yards against Chicago). And his preseason stats and in-season stats are pretty consistent, outside of completion percentage. Makes it look like it wasn't quite as much luck about how well he did during the season. In-season: 19 for 27, 70.4% completions, A lowish YPA of 6.7, but AdjustedYPA is a higher 7.5. 1 TD, 0 INTs. Passer rating 101.2 Pre-season: 46 for 79, 58.2%. 7.8 YPA. 5 TDs, 1 INT. Passer rating 99.0. Considering a lot of his in-season work came against our excellent defense, he looks promising. Too early to say for sure, but promising, unfortunately. Edited May 13, 2015 by Thurman#1
Formerly Allan in MD Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 Don't bet against the Pats bringing a veteran quarterback to run things while Brady is out, especially if the suspension does last four games. It obviously won't be a world beater but will be a better bet for NE than basically a rookie who's not that highly rated.
jr1 Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 Jerry Hughes will ensure this handsome young man will spend time at a local medical facility
Doc Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 He didn't look good against the Bills, but our defense made a lot of QBs look bad last year. He was pretty good in his other appearances. And his preseason stats and in-season stats are pretty consistent, outside of completion percentage. Makes it look like it wasn't quite as much luck about how well he did during the season. In-season: 19 for 27, 70.4% completions, A lowish YPA of 6.7, but AdjustedYPA is a higher 7.5. 1 TD, 0 INTs. Passer rating 101.2 Pre-season: 46 for 79, 58.2%. 7.8 YPA. 5 TDs, 1 INT. Passer rating 99.0. Considering a lot of his in-season work came against out excellent defense, he looks promising. Too early to say for sure, but promising, unfortunately. The game was in Foxboro where the Pats usually dominate, so in that context, his performance is even worse. And the Bills weren't preparing for him.\ As for pre-season, doesn't mean a thing. We've all seen enough of them who go on to do nothing in the NFL.
DanInUticaTampa Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 Im not worried about him until I see more of him
Virgil Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 Belichick will retire when Brady does. He has nothing to gain and everything to lose if he stays. This
VaMilBill Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 If belichik brings in another qb to start the first four weeks instead of garropolo then I think we should assume garropolo has no real future in NE besides riding the pine. But if he comes in and plays well, I think belichik might stick around beyond Brady's tenure
ToGoGo Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 (edited) I thought he did pretty well against us considering he's a rookie. What caught my attention is that when he played the 2nd half, Brady and Belichick watched him with A LOT of interest on the sidelines. Especially Brady. He must be doing pretty well in practice for Brady (who seems like he doesn't respect anyone) to watch him intently. I suspect they already decided he's their guy for the future, Brady suspension or not. Edited May 13, 2015 by musichunch
johnwalter Posted May 13, 2015 Author Posted May 13, 2015 I thought he did pretty well against us considering he's a rookie. What caught my attention is that when he played the 2nd half, Brady and Belichick watched him with A LOT of interest on the sidelines. Especially Brady. He must be doing pretty well in practice for Brady (who seems like he doesn't respect anyone) to watch him intently. I suspect they already decided he's their guy for the future, Brady suspension or not. probably his last shot at a successful mentoring project. He didn't look good against the Bills, but our defense made a lot of QBs look bad last year. He was pretty good in his other appearances (6 for 7 for 70 yards, a TD and no INTs against the Chiefs and 3 for 3 for 22 yards against Chicago). And his preseason stats and in-season stats are pretty consistent, outside of completion percentage. Makes it look like it wasn't quite as much luck about how well he did during the season. In-season: 19 for 27, 70.4% completions, A lowish YPA of 6.7, but AdjustedYPA is a higher 7.5. 1 TD, 0 INTs. Passer rating 101.2 Pre-season: 46 for 79, 58.2%. 7.8 YPA. 5 TDs, 1 INT. Passer rating 99.0. Considering a lot of his in-season work came against our excellent defense, he looks promising. Too early to say for sure, but promising, unfortunately. thanks man, that was helpful.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 Everyone's fired up about the Brady suspension and what it means for his legacy, but I think the most interesting aspect of this whole situation is the fact that we're going to get an early glimpse of the Garoppolo-Belichick duo and what the future of our division holds once Brady retires. Garoppolo has looked very good in his opportunities so far, and Belichick has said some very nice things about him. I'm not saying "DOOMED" - I'm just saying this guy has me more worried for the future of Buffalo and the AFCE than Tannehill. Can someone knowledgable about QB play fill me in... what are we in for with Garoppolo? They will trade us Brady after Garrapolo takes over.
machine gun kelly Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 There is really no veteran to bring in worth starting in the NFL. Even without Lebeau, the Steelers have a history of embarassing rookie QB's. Remember EJ against the Steelers two years ago. The Bills will have a clinic on him even with 4 months to prepare. There is no way Brady reduces the suspension below two games so as much as I would love to beat Brady in Buffalo, I'll take the win in the AFC East.
frogger Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 I attribute that most of his success is due to a lack of game planning on the defensive side. Same reason Johnny football looked good on a drive...game plan him and destroy
judman Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 Veteran qb market is thin, as we know. Orton? Is that possible?
YoloinOhio Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 They need to sign a qb for depth but I think they will roll with JG those first 4 games unless he has a terrible TC. I think it's way too early to determine whether he's their next franchise qb.
Dorkington Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 (edited) 10/17 - 58.8% - 90 yards - 0TD/0INT - 17.1 QBR - 73.2 Rating - 3* sacks for 19 yards (was sacked another time, but a flag wiped it out) Why is he suddenly appointed king with that? His other "good" stats were when he came in for mop up duty in other games. Edited May 13, 2015 by Dorkington
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