YoloinOhio Posted May 12, 2015 Posted May 12, 2015 I didn't see a date yet but this is awesome... @EricFisherSBJ: Upcoming 30 for 30s - Tyson vs Holyfield, Pete Carroll, the Bills' Super Bowl run of the early '90s I would expect it to be around the time of the SB. Espn usually plans these to coincide with a related event.
DrDawkinstein Posted May 12, 2015 Posted May 12, 2015 I love the entire 30 for 30 series. Have never seen a bad one, even if it was about something I wasnt really interested in beforehand. However, I really dont have much interest in reliving those memories. And if they release it right before the Super Bowl, I definitely wont watch since we'll be playing in this year's SB and I dont want to jinx it!
KD in CA Posted May 12, 2015 Posted May 12, 2015 I love the entire 30 for 30 series. Have never seen a bad one, even if it was about something I wasnt really interested in beforehand. However, I really dont have much interest in reliving those memories. And if they release it right before the Super Bowl, I definitely wont watch since we'll be playing in this year's SB and I dont want to jinx it! The original idea of 30 for 30 (or so I thought) was to tell stories that hadn't been widely told or had largely been forgotten. That's part of what makes so many of them so good. Now they're doing stories everyone already knows. The worst example of course is the one they did on the Yankees-Red Sox series (gee, why does the media and especially ESPN ignore that rivalry??). Of course I'll watch it, but I doubt there's much I'll take away from a rehash of those Bills teams.
ko12010 Posted May 12, 2015 Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) Sweet. More football fans need to realize how amazing an accomplish those Bills teams managed. The Eagles were talked about quite a bit for getting to 4 straight NFC Championships. It's like, uh, the friggin Bills did 4 straight SUPERBOWLS! Edited May 12, 2015 by ko12010
YoloinOhio Posted May 12, 2015 Author Posted May 12, 2015 @JoeBuscaglia: 90s #Bills to get the '30 for 30' treatment http://t.co/h2UjKpT0xt @mikerodak: ESPN's "30 for 30" series will feature the Buffalo Bills' Super Bowl losses. http://t.co/QSYoXHRIXP
Kirby Jackson Posted May 12, 2015 Posted May 12, 2015 I figured that there had to be a 30 for 30 on the Kelly soon. I am sure that this will tackle some of that. It will also remain on my DVR until the end of time.
LB3 Posted May 12, 2015 Posted May 12, 2015 @JoeBuscaglia: 90s #Bills to get the '30 for 30' treatment http://t.co/h2UjKpT0xt @mikerodak: ESPN's "30 for 30" series will feature the Buffalo Bills' Super Bowl losses. http://t.co/QSYoXHRIXP Rodak really is an excellent troll.
Wayne Cubed Posted May 12, 2015 Posted May 12, 2015 @JoeBuscaglia: 90s #Bills to get the '30 for 30' treatment http://t.co/h2UjKpT0xt @mikerodak: ESPN's "30 for 30" series will feature the Buffalo Bills' Super Bowl losses. http://t.co/QSYoXHRIXP Jesus, Rodak.
BuffaloATL Posted May 12, 2015 Posted May 12, 2015 The original idea of 30 for 30 (or so I thought) was to tell stories that hadn't been widely told or had largely been forgotten. That's part of what makes so many of them so good. Now they're doing stories everyone already knows. The worst example of course is the one they did on the Yankees-Red Sox series (gee, why does the media and especially ESPN ignore that rivalry??). Of course I'll watch it, but I doubt there's much I'll take away from a rehash of those Bills teams. If you're in your late 20's or younger, you have little to no recollection of the Bills run. And, nationally, people older than that don't know nearly as much about that team as we do.
YoloinOhio Posted May 12, 2015 Author Posted May 12, 2015 Yeah, I thought the same thing. It really is hilarious how Rodak *always* has to get in a dig. Like when he wrote about nick oleary at minicamp and how he's famous for not wearing receiver gloves. Then says, "Let's see how long that lasts in buffalo where the weather isn't quite like florida" or something along those lines. If you're in your late 20's or younger, you have little to no recollection of the Bills run. And, nationally, people older than that don't know nearly as much about that team as we do. i was in HS and i remember some things but not nearly all of what a lot of you guys talk about (like the players fighting, partying, etc). I was probably just sheltered but the media then was so different than it is today.
sodbuster Posted May 12, 2015 Posted May 12, 2015 My favorite 30 for 30 is the one about the fraud who bought the Islanders.
Kirby Jackson Posted May 12, 2015 Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) The original idea of 30 for 30 (or so I thought) was to tell stories that hadn't been widely told or had largely been forgotten. That's part of what makes so many of them so good. Now they're doing stories everyone already knows. The worst example of course is the one they did on the Yankees-Red Sox series (gee, why does the media and especially ESPN ignore that rivalry??). Of course I'll watch it, but I doubt there's much I'll take away from a rehash of those Bills teams. I think that team is so interesting that it will make for a great story. They were one of the great teams of all-time and if 1 kick went 3 feet to the left they would be remembered as such. They were knocked down so many times and kept getting up. I think that it is their resiliency that makes them unique. The 90's Bills were interesting on and off the field. They are revered in the community to this day. In addition to that you have all of the trials and tribulations of Kelly and Talley and Biscuit after football. It should make for a really interesting story. My favorite 30 for 30 is the one about the fraud who bought the Islanders. That one is really good. My favorite is 2 Escobars. Edited May 12, 2015 by Kirby Jackson
chaccof Posted May 12, 2015 Posted May 12, 2015 They did a 30 for 30 on my alma mater's run to the NCAA basketball championship in 1983 (NC State) and while I was on campus for all the games and followed that event pretty closely I was still fascinated by information during the show. I'll bet it will be pretty touching from the players perspective and of course the fans perspective.
Chuck Wagon Posted May 12, 2015 Posted May 12, 2015 The original idea of 30 for 30 (or so I thought) was to tell stories that hadn't been widely told or had largely been forgotten. That's part of what makes so many of them so good. Now they're doing stories everyone already knows. The worst example of course is the one they did on the Yankees-Red Sox series (gee, why does the media and especially ESPN ignore that rivalry??). Of course I'll watch it, but I doubt there's much I'll take away from a rehash of those Bills teams. Bill Simmons was one of the biggest drivers of the 30 for 30 idea. Frankly I'm shocked they haven't done one on the Tuck game, the Pats 3 Super Bowls in 4 years, Larry Bird, Bill Russell, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Borque.
YoloinOhio Posted May 12, 2015 Author Posted May 12, 2015 @EricFisherSBJ: The working title for Bills' 30/30 is the Four Falls of Buffalo
KingRex Posted May 12, 2015 Posted May 12, 2015 The original idea of 30 for 30 (or so I thought) was to tell stories that hadn't been widely told or had largely been forgotten. That's part of what makes so many of them so good. Now they're doing stories everyone already knows. The worst example of course is the one they did on the Yankees-Red Sox series (gee, why does the media and especially ESPN ignore that rivalry??). Of course I'll watch it, but I doubt there's much I'll take away from a rehash of those Bills teams. I have to give 30 for 30 a lot of credit. I agree with you that I can easily pass on some of the recent ventures (I for one care very little about the U- the topic of not only a recent feature but apparently a follow-up). Kudos to them for their recent piece I Hate Christian Laettner. Since I actually have little affinity for Duke (I grew up liking Dean Smith/U/NC/Michael Jordan, I had planned to skip this show. I don't hate Laettner but easily can do without him. However, buddy of mine was a buddy of the Laettner family so I watched part of it with her. It was great and I tuned into a redo to see the beginning. Even for those who might reject it feeling like its old news, the Laettner piece reminded me that I don't know what I don't know. Unless you want to claim perfect knowledge of everything, I'd be a little slower about rejecting its stories unseen.
vorpma Posted May 12, 2015 Posted May 12, 2015 Sweet. More football fans need to realize how amazing an accomplish those Bills teams managed. The Eagles were talked about quite a bit for getting to 4 straight NFC Championships. It's like, uh, the friggin Bills did 4 straight SUPERBOWLS! Many pundits and players have stated that a team going to four straight Super Bowls may never happen again; it was a significant accomplishment.
YoloinOhio Posted May 12, 2015 Author Posted May 12, 2015 I have to give 30 for 30 a lot of credit. I agree with you that I can easily pass on some of the recent ventures (I for one care very little about the U- the topic of not only a recent feature but apparently a follow-up). Kudos to them for their recent piece I Hate Christian Laettner. Since I actually have little affinity for Duke (I grew up liking Dean Smith/U/NC/Michael Jordan, I had planned to skip this show. I don't hate Laettner but easily can do without him. However, buddy of mine was a buddy of the Laettner family so I watched part of it with her. It was great and I tuned into a redo to see the beginning. Even for those who might reject it feeling like its old news, the Laettner piece reminded me that I don't know what I don't know. Unless you want to claim perfect knowledge of everything, I'd be a little slower about rejecting its stories unseen. well said. The Laettner episode was outstanding.
qblax16 Posted May 12, 2015 Posted May 12, 2015 I don't like reading that this is going to be released RIGHT before the superbowl... ugh
fridge Posted May 12, 2015 Posted May 12, 2015 The original idea of 30 for 30 (or so I thought) was to tell stories that hadn't been widely told or had largely been forgotten. That's part of what makes so many of them so good. Now they're doing stories everyone already knows. The worst example of course is the one they did on the Yankees-Red Sox series (gee, why does the media and especially ESPN ignore that rivalry??). Of course I'll watch it, but I doubt there's much I'll take away from a rehash of those Bills teams. I really think the idea was to get good directors an opportunity to delve into the sports stories worth telling. I think the problem with a lot of sports docs and specials in the past is they've been exclusively produced by sports networks or programs and don't ever have a spec of legitimacy to hold up on their own as a documentary. Bill Simmons started getting real filmmakers involved, and I think that, far more than the forgotten nature of the story, is what has allowed 30 for 30 to remain a well respected series.
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