NoSaint Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Brian Johnston @CAPTJohnston1 @JeremyWGR What the Boston Herald cover should have been: well, minus a few issues those other teams have had. and i dislike dallas as much if not more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Ah - I thought the towel had a sticky substance on it that was being rubbed into the ball... Which was legal but no longer. I can't imagine a QB would like a sticky ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Im sure this has been posted somewhere on the board or in this thread already, but just in case... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I can't imagine a QB would like a sticky ball. i think it was just slightly tacky, not like a caricature situation where its sticking to his hand. the whole reason for deflation would be grip. just like a glove is for better grip, or scuffing up the new ball. and the SD case a little added grip via an outside, not yet banned, substance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 i think it was just slightly tacky, not like a caricature situation where its sticking to his hand. the whole reason for deflation would be grip. just like a glove is for better grip, or scuffing up the new ball. and the SD case a little added grip via an outside, not yet banned, substance. I got that. But putting a tacky substance on the ball stays on the ball whereas a deflated ball is easier to grip but not tacky, which can affect a QB's throwing. I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I got that. But putting a tacky substance on the ball stays on the ball whereas a deflated ball is easier to grip but not tacky, which can affect a QB's throwing. I would think. That wasn't true in the hight of the stickum era. Seems they threw it just fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I got that. But putting a tacky substance on the ball stays on the ball whereas a deflated ball is easier to grip but not tacky, which can affect a QB's throwing. I would think. you should contact the chargers, as they did this within the last 2-3 years. maybe they could use your expertise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Give me a bleepin' break! @darrenrovell The cover of this morning's Boston Herald they need to "tarnish" those trophies up a bit to reflect reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Brian Johnston @CAPTJohnston1 @JeremyWGR What the Boston Herald cover should have been: SF cheated bigtime with the salary cap......hardly ever mentioned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 So QB AJ Feely is saying the Patriots have been using illegal balls since 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 SF cheated bigtime with the salary cap......hardly ever mentioned I don't think that taints their first four SB victories seeing as how the cap wasn't instituted until 1994. Were they accused of cheating when Steve Young won their last one after that season? I honestly don't recall. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K8prisoner Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 they need to "tarnish" those trophies up a bit to reflect reality they didnt earn any of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 So QB AJ Feely is saying the Patriots have been using illegal balls since 2004.Well he saw one game they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) SF cheated bigtime with the salary cap......hardly ever mentionedThey never cheated with the salary cap, everything was within the rules.....and nothing they did caused a change of rule. They mortgaged their future salary caps for the sake of that SB year, and suffered greatly in subsequent years as a consequence. Teams can still legally do what the 9ers did. I think they choose not to as failing to win the SB leaves no reward and a great deal of future problems. Edited May 14, 2015 by Dibs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Well he saw one game they did. And to be fair it wasn't a ball he handled or anything- and if he could spot it's illegal nature from the sideline - everyone would've had to be in on it..... But at that point, weren't home teams allowed to "prep" there's? (Verbiage intentionally not "tamper" without knowing legality off hand) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 So QB AJ Feely is saying the Patriots have been using illegal balls since 2004. Manning, Brady and every other QB in the league convinced the NFL that that rule was unnecessary, and in 2007, they agreed, so it really isn't a strong point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 They never cheated with the salary cap, everything was within the rules.....and nothing they did caused a change of rule. They mortgaged their future salary caps for the sake of that SB year, and suffered greatly in subsequent years as a consequence. Teams can still legally do what the 9ers did. I think they choose not to as failing to win the SB leaves no reward and a great deal of future problems. Carmen Policy included a fictitious year in Jim Druckenmiller's contract to gain more salary cap room by amortizing the bonus; he reduced Steve Young's salary that year to sign Drunknstupid, moving the unpaid salary to the following year without negotiation or disclosure, and negotiated a bonus for Brent Young to be paid after retirement so it didn't count against the cap. No team can legally do that, now or then. It was extremely against the rules. Manning, Brady and every other QB in the league convinced the NFL that that rule was unnecessary, and in 2007, they agreed, so it really isn't a strong point... Yeah, they're not rules. They're more like friendly advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Manning, Brady and every other QB in the league convinced the NFL that that rule was unnecessary, and in 2007, they agreed, so it really isn't a strong point... Manning and Brady convinced the league you could ignore the rules and use whatever ball you wanted and do whatever you wanted because the rules don't apply to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Manning and Brady convinced the league you could ignore the rules and use whatever ball you wanted and do whatever you wanted because the rules don't apply to you? Manning and Brady were already cheating, so they convinced the league to change the rule so it wasn't cheating, so it's retroactively not cheating. I swear, the logic being used to justify Brady's cheating is getting more and more convoluted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Manning and Brady were already cheating, so they convinced the league to change the rule so it wasn't cheating, so it's retroactively not cheating. I swear, the logic being used to justify Brady's cheating is getting more and more convoluted... Not to mention that he brought in a ball from the sidelines that clearly wasn't checked pregame by the officials because that is unnecessary when you are just going to steal them anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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