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fact? proof?

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People can say, "let's not stereotype" all they want but let me ask everyone this: If you heard tomorrow that a US congressman made some insanely archaic, deeply offensive, incredibly ignorant statement about women's innards and you had to bet your life if the guy was a Democrat or a Republican, which team would you bet he plays for?

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Nice satire. Why is someone called "liberal" if they refuse to view or consider points of view that differ from their own? Ah, it has been stated here 3 times so it must be correct, eh? "The side that goofs up the most gets mocked the most"? Don't you mean that the side that is furthest from Stewart's point of view gets mocked the most?

 

I would suggest that you or anyone else who is taking political shots here (including me) take the argument to PPP so that this thread can truly be about a sometimes funny comedian eviscerating Tom Bundchen.

no the side that flubs the most gets the laughs

 

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Just so you know, I don't. I take people at face value of what they actually say and do -- I hate the labels.

Of course you do. Everyone does. Just ask them.

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That was uncalled for.

Firstly, lighten up. Has anyone ever claimed otherwise and admitted to their own bias mid-argument? Affirming your objectivity is a waste of time.

 

Secondly, 2 pages ago you were more than comfortable tossing around labels as TBD's finest political minds squabbled about which of the two pre-packaged political platforms were marginally less embarrassing. Own it.

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If you heard tomorrow about a U.S. congressman making a statement that he was concerned that Guam might tip over if we stationed more troops there, what team do you think that congressman plays for? Who said that we must pass a bill to see what's in it? Who said that we must extend unemployment benefits in order to keep unemployment levels down? What two term president thinks that we have 57 states and that Hawaii is in Asia? Just in case you think I've blown my wad on those I'll advise you that I'm hardly titillated, there's more to come if you choose.

 

Again, this discussion should probably go to PPP, where if you choose to call me an idiot the only points you'll get are if you actually make an intelligent point, and they won't be warning points. Let this post be an invitation to youins to take this argument to PPP and let Tommy get his due here. My subject line of the PPP post will be "Libs Who Can't Hack It Take Their Shots Elsewhere."

The only thing you're right about is that, yes, this discussion should've moved to ppp last week. I have no idea what you're talking about with the Guam thing- I'll have to look it up- but as far as said president's flubs, in the age of social media, it's a wonder with everything he's ever said publicly being recorded and documented that that silly "57 states" flub is still being invoked by you guys. As if the guy really thought there were 57 states. And I don't even know about this Hawaii in Asia flub but I'm sure you read about it on the drudge report and if you really believe that said president thinks the state he was born in is actually on the Asian continent then there's no use debating with you any further. The difference is that congressman who thought he disproved climate change by making a snowball during the warmest winter in recorded history- that was not a flub or a slip of the tongue. He really believed it. Go bills!
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Firstly, lighten up. Has anyone ever claimed otherwise and admitted to their own bias mid-argument? Affirming your objectivity is a waste of time.

 

Secondly, 2 pages ago you were more than comfortable tossing around labels as TBD's finest political minds squabbled about which of the two pre-packaged political platforms were marginally less embarrassing. Own it.

 

I don't believe I've labeled any individual in this thread, but please correct me if I'm mistaken.

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The only thing you're right about is that, yes, this discussion should've moved to ppp last week. I have no idea what you're talking about with the Guam thing- I'll have to look it up- but as far as said president's flubs, in the age of social media, it's a wonder with everything he's ever said publicly being recorded and documented that that silly "57 states" flub is still being invoked by you guys. As if the guy really thought there were 57 states. And I don't even know about this Hawaii in Asia flub but I'm sure you read about it on the drudge report and if you really believe that said president thinks the state he was born in is actually on the Asian continent then there's no use debating with you any further. The difference is that congressman who thought he disproved climate change by making a snowball during the warmest winter in recorded history- that was not a flub or a slip of the tongue. He really believed it. Go bills!

Yep, just as i stated. You libs still want to take your shots but also be able to hide behind TSW. I'll argue with you at PPP, but not here. The thread title down there where this is being discussed has the word "balls" in it, just in case you're interested.

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Both.

any evidence to back up the fact?

The only thing you're right about is that, yes, this discussion should've moved to ppp last week. I have no idea what you're talking about with the Guam thing- I'll have to look it up- but as far as said president's flubs, in the age of social media, it's a wonder with everything he's ever said publicly being recorded and documented that that silly "57 states" flub is still being invoked by you guys. As if the guy really thought there were 57 states. And I don't even know about this Hawaii in Asia flub but I'm sure you read about it on the drudge report and if you really believe that said president thinks the state he was born in is actually on the Asian continent then there's no use debating with you any further. The difference is that congressman who thought he disproved climate change by making a snowball during the warmest winter in recorded history- that was not a flub or a slip of the tongue. He really believed it. Go bills!

i heard obama say "all 57 states" in an audio cut years ago, and the tired old bromides about drudge, fox news, cant you bring more than that?

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any evidence to back up the fact?

 

i heard obama say "all 57 states" in an audio cut years ago, and the tired old bromides about drudge, fox news, cant you bring more than that?

Oh please.

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any evidence to back up the fact?

i heard obama say "all 57 states" in an audio cut years ago, and the tired old bromides about drudge, fox news, cant you bring more than that?

Don't argue more politics with them here. They have the built in protection of TSW and its rules regarding political discussion. (rightfully so, in my opinion) They need to come to the "balls" thread at PPP and have a fair fight. I wonder what's keeping them from doing that?

Don't know if this was already posted, I don't know if it's funny but, IMO, it's on point.

 

Nothing Olbermann has ever said has been funny or on point. He's a washed up old hag who acts and sounds like he suffers from constant PMS.

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Don't argue more politics with them here. They have the built in protection of TSW and its rules regarding political discussion. (rightfully so, in my opinion) They need to come to the "balls" thread at PPP and have a fair fight. I wonder what's keeping them from doing that?

Nothing Olbermann has ever said has been funny or on point. He's a washed up old hag who acts and sounds like he suffers from constant PMS.

i did notice that lol! where are they?

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how do i know which side i should defend or hell even stand upon.

I know i am cranky old man. but left /right ...lib /cons.

hell i dont like anyone and find very little funny.

whos team should i join i wonder

 

because i am pretty

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i did notice that lol! where are they?

Yes, all I hear are crickets down there in the "Balls" thread. Maybe I should edit it to the "No Balls" thread?

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Yes, all I hear are crickets down there in the "Balls" thread. Maybe I should edit it to the "No Balls" thread?

I've never even been on ppp. In fact, I've never even seen or looked for the link. I waste way too much of my time on here as it is. At least on here, every once in a blue moon, you can construct an argument in a manner that can lead people to change the way they think about things. I've worked in corporate America and debated conservatives for hours on end. It is futile for them as well as myself. Here is an argument I witnessed in the office once that sums up conservatives and their unwillingness to budge: guy #1: being gay is not a choice that people make. Guy #2: yes it is. Guy #1: hey gay guy, come here for a second. Did you ever decide to be gay or were you born the way you are. Gay guy: of course the latter. Guy #2: sorry, I don't believe you. Now what in the world can be gained from debating with someone like that? I've found it much more enjoyable and certainly much less frustrating to just sit back and make fun of people I disagree with politically with those whom I agree with rather than try and engage those with whom I will never see eye to eye. Which isn't to say that there aren't certain issues where I do agree with conservatives, but on those I don't, going on ppp certainly isn't gonna turn me into a birther or a gravity denier or whatever your cause d'jour is, much the same way I'm not gonna turn you into a tree hugger or one who sympathizes with the less fortunate or believes scientists over rush limbaugh. So let's keep it to football. Edited by metzelaars_lives
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I've never even been on ppp. In fact, I've never even seen or looked for the link. I waste way too much of my time on here as it is. At least on here, every once in a blue moon, you can construct an argument in a manner that can lead people to change the way they think about things. I've worked in corporate America and debated conservatives for hours on end. It is futile for them as well as myself. Here is an argument I witnessed in the office once that sums up conservatives and their unwillingness to budge: guy #1: being gay is not a choice that people make. Guy #2: yes it is. Guy #1: hey gay guy, come here for a second. Did you ever decide to be gay or were you born the way you are. Gay guy: of course the latter. Guy #2: sorry, I don't believe you. Now what in the world can be gained from debating with someone like that? I've found it much more enjoyable and certainly much less frustrating to just sit back and make fun of people I disagree with politically with those whom I agree with rather than try and engage those with whom I will never see eye to eye. Which isn't to say that there aren't certain issues where I do agree with conservatives, but on those I don't, going on ppp certainly isn't gonna turn me into a birther or a gravity denier or whatever your cause d'jour is, much the same way I'm not gonna turn you into a tree hugger or one who sympathizes with the less fortunate or believes scientists over rush limbaugh. So let's keep it to football.

What do you think my point is? You guys take political shots here knowing full well that any response has to be neutered or very bland. My point is that you should stfu about politics here and post your schit at PPP and be willing to take the heat or be labeled as the balless person you represent. As far as the post above----are you just lying in the gutter drunk?

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I've never even been on ppp. In fact, I've never even seen or looked for the link. I waste way too much of my time on here as it is. At least on here, every once in a blue moon, you can construct an argument in a manner that can lead people to change the way they think about things. I've worked in corporate America and debated conservatives for hours on end. It is futile for them as well as myself. Here is an argument I witnessed in the office once that sums up conservatives and their unwillingness to budge: guy #1: being gay is not a choice that people make. Guy #2: yes it is. Guy #1: hey gay guy, come here for a second. Did you ever decide to be gay or were you born the way you are. Gay guy: of course the latter. Guy #2: sorry, I don't believe you. Now what in the world can be gained from debating with someone like that? I've found it much more enjoyable and certainly much less frustrating to just sit back and make fun of people I disagree with politically with those whom I agree with rather than try and engage those with whom I will never see eye to eye. Which isn't to say that there aren't certain issues where I do agree with conservatives, but on those I don't, going on ppp certainly isn't gonna turn me into a birther or a gravity denier or whatever your cause d'jour is, much the same way I'm not gonna turn you into a tree hugger or one who sympathizes with the less fortunate or believes scientists over rush limbaugh. So let's keep it to football.

You can't reason someone out of a viewpoint that they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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