\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 I was reading an article over lunch in the Financial Times newspaper call "Autocracy is the cause, not the cure, of the Middle East's ills" (it's a pay subscription site so I can't link to it). Here's what a reader wrote in the "comments section" underneath the article: "What utter drivel. The cause of Middle East problems are two things: the violent nature of bitterly divided modern Islam and the complete breakdown of Arab society. In fact the ONLY stability that has been enjoyed is with a strongman running a country. It has been that way for 1400 years. The Middle East destabilized for the worse when the USA took out Saddam Hussein and thought if we stuck a 3 piece suit on some Iraqis and had an election that somehow it would help. It is now worse than ever. In fact, Iraq is de facto divided into 3 nations right now: Sunnistan (ISIS), Kurdistan, and Shiastan (Bagdad). Only the borders of these 3 nations is being defined through conflict. Egypt devolved overnight with the "election" of the Muslim Brotherhood into power into a looming terrorist state that openly spoke of its plans to co-operate to destroy Israel as soon as possible. It openly welcomed Hamas (since it is a Brotherhood offshoot). Christians were murdered for being Christians by the truck loads, while the Brotherhood government looked the other way. El-Sisi stopped it, and was right to do so. Now Egypt has a strongman it is has become stable. Arab and Islamic culture have no sense of "democracy" in its traditions, culture, or mindset. Dominance and power are how governing is accomplished. They are tribal and sectarian and wish to remain that way. All they want to enjoy the wealth of the West under those same traditions, cultures, and mindsets. To the Arab, "democracy" simply means putting your strongman in power in place of your rival's strongman. Have the guts to spend some extended time there, as I have, and you'll learn it for yourself instead of pontificating some Liberal philosophy that works well in a classroom and sounds so high minded in a pithy editorial." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 I agree with the comments. It wasn't liberal policy that got us into this mess. Of course, liberal policy surely won't get us out of this mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) I was reading an article over lunch in the Financial Times newspaper call "Autocracy is the cause, not the cure, of the Middle East's ills" (it's a pay subscription site so I can't link to it). Here's what a reader wrote in the "comments section" underneath the article: "What utter drivel. The cause of Middle East problems are two things: the violent nature of bitterly divided modern Islam and the complete breakdown of Arab society. In fact the ONLY stability that has been enjoyed is with a strongman running a country. It has been that way for 1400 years. The Middle East destabilized for the worse when the USA took out Saddam Hussein and thought if we stuck a 3 piece suit on some Iraqis and had an election that somehow it would help. It is now worse than ever. In fact, Iraq is de facto divided into 3 nations right now: Sunnistan (ISIS), Kurdistan, and Shiastan (Bagdad). Only the borders of these 3 nations is being defined through conflict. Egypt devolved overnight with the "election" of the Muslim Brotherhood into power into a looming terrorist state that openly spoke of its plans to co-operate to destroy Israel as soon as possible. It openly welcomed Hamas (since it is a Brotherhood offshoot). Christians were murdered for being Christians by the truck loads, while the Brotherhood government looked the other way. El-Sisi stopped it, and was right to do so. Now Egypt has a strongman it is has become stable. Arab and Islamic culture have no sense of "democracy" in its traditions, culture, or mindset. Dominance and power are how governing is accomplished. They are tribal and sectarian and wish to remain that way. All they want to enjoy the wealth of the West under those same traditions, cultures, and mindsets. To the Arab, "democracy" simply means putting your strongman in power in place of your rival's strongman. Have the guts to spend some extended time there, as I have, and you'll learn it for yourself instead of pontificating some Liberal philosophy that works well in a classroom and sounds so high minded in a pithy editorial." Also the fall of Libya and Syria. Specifically the killing of Gaddafi. When alive he cut deals with Italy and Greece to keep all Islamic refugees from trying to get to their countries. A cash amount every year. Now that he's gone, it's game on with all the people flooding in. Apart from Italy and Greece having their culture overwhelmed and possibly dissolved, Isis is certainly taking advantage of this situation. I could see these two countries in big trouble very soon. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/18/thousands-of-migrants-nearly-die-in-a-week-trying-to-reach-italy-from-libya Edited May 7, 2015 by Dante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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