3rdand12 Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) just stop with the Robert Nkemdiche to Buffalo at 19 crap. Rather have Spence actually I will seriously toss something. Edited April 25, 2016 by 3rdand12
thebandit27 Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Talk is heating up that Leonard Floyd could crack the top-5 to Jacksonville.
26CornerBlitz Posted April 25, 2016 Author Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) Talk is heating up that Leonard Floyd could crack the top-5 to Jacksonville. I heard that too. Seems like he'd be overvalued if selected as a top 5 pick. Edited April 25, 2016 by 26CornerBlitz
Kirby Jackson Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Talk is heating up that Leonard Floyd could crack the top-5 to Jacksonville. I will say this for Floyd, he is peaking at the right time. A month ago I would have thought that he was a reach at 19. I have too many questions about his production. Now, it seems like it is HIGHLY unlikely that he will be on the board at 19. I would be surprised if he is there at 12 and really surprised if he were there at 15.
26CornerBlitz Posted April 25, 2016 Author Posted April 25, 2016 I will say this for Floyd, he is peaking at the right time. A month ago I would have thought that he was a reach at 19. I have too many questions about his production. Now, it seems like it is HIGHLY unlikely that he will be on the board at 19. I would be surprised if he is there at 12 and really surprised if he were there at 15. Dion Jordan reincarnate? Jeremiah mock draft 8.0: Saints take Lynch Daniel Jeremiah's latest mock draft provides the Saints with an heir apparent to quarterback Drew Brees. Check out his entire first-round projection Pick No. 19 Reggie Ragland ILB Alabama Ragland is more athletic than he's given credit for, and his instincts are outstanding.
Blokestradamus Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Talk is heating up that Leonard Floyd could crack the top-5 to Jacksonville. There's also been quite a bit of talk that he'll get picked by Atlanta if he's on the board for them. Apparently they see him as a possible Mike or Will LB. Which is......interesting.
CommonCents Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 just stop with the Robert Nkemdiche to Buffalo at 19 crap. Rather have Spence actually I will seriously toss something. Hmm let me talk you off that ledge. If they take Diche at 19 they are undoubtedly getting one of the most talented players in the draft-not just dline. Motivation and maturity are the inherent risk with him, talent is not. IF he goes "all in" he will be something special and will have an earlier impact than some of these other names being lauded over. Plenty of guys who will fall into that 15-30 range that would be much more infuriating than an uber talented albeit immature Diche. There is a quote out from a defensive line coach " I think he'll either drive you crazy or make you look like a genious. Probably not a lot of middle ground is my guess." That about sums it up...his strength and versatility would be a perfect fit. Just need to trust Rex and company to get his production to match his talent. The twins get paid to coach defense if they can't get something out of this kid then we are simply paying the wrong guys.
thebandit27 Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 There's also been quite a bit of talk that he'll get picked by Atlanta if he's on the board for them. Apparently they see him as a possible Mike or Will LB. Which is......interesting. I wouldn't touch him unless I knew I had a great LBs coach and 2 solid starters on the edge. He's got all the athletic ability in the world, but I've seen too many "LBs" with WR bodies that don't transition well to spend a top-10 pick on a guy like that.
John from Riverside Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Hmm let me talk you off that ledge. If they take Diche at 19 they are undoubtedly getting one of the most talented players in the draft-not just dline. Motivation and maturity are the inherent risk with him, talent is not. IF he goes "all in" he will be something special and will have an earlier impact than some of these other names being lauded over. Plenty of guys who will fall into that 15-30 range that would be much more infuriating than an uber talented albeit immature Diche. There is a quote out from a defensive line coach " I think he'll either drive you crazy or make you look like a genious. Probably not a lot of middle ground is my guess." That about sums it up...his strength and versatility would be a perfect fit. Just need to trust Rex and company to get his production to match his talent. The twins get paid to coach defense if they can't get something out of this kid then we are simply paying the wrong guys. My big thing with this player is with all of his talent he should have been MUCH more productive in college That scares me
CommonCents Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 My big thing with this player is with all of his talent he should have been MUCH more productive in college That scares me Right and that's the reason he is going to be available mid-late first, all the pundits were talking him up as the potential top pick in the draft early in the college football season. He followed that up with some inconsistent play and the window incident. No doubt you would need to see something in him as a person to draft him, as far as I know they didn't have him up for a visit. That is an indication he won't be coming here at 19 because this is the exact type of kid you would want to understand better before drafting. (Unless of course they love him so much from the combine interaction that they are laying low)
3rdand12 Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Hmm let me talk you off that ledge. If they take Diche at 19 they are undoubtedly getting one of the most talented players in the draft-not just dline. Motivation and maturity are the inherent risk with him, talent is not. IF he goes "all in" he will be something special and will have an earlier impact than some of these other names being lauded over. Plenty of guys who will fall into that 15-30 range that would be much more infuriating than an uber talented albeit immature Diche. There is a quote out from a defensive line coach " I think he'll either drive you crazy or make you look like a genious. Probably not a lot of middle ground is my guess." That about sums it up...his strength and versatility would be a perfect fit. Just need to trust Rex and company to get his production to match his talent. The twins get paid to coach defense if they can't get something out of this kid then we are simply paying the wrong guys. I appreciate you thoughtfulness. But i am rather adamant about this guy. Hope he comes around, and tears up the NFC. Do not worry, i will toss something soft at the TV. But toss I will.
Blokestradamus Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 I wouldn't touch him unless I knew I had a great LBs coach and 2 solid starters on the edge. He's got all the athletic ability in the world, but I've seen too many "LBs" with WR bodies that don't transition well to spend a top-10 pick on a guy like that. As an ILB, he's honestly not a million miles away from a guy like Brian Urlacher athletically. The comparisons are few and far between at MLB/WLB, obviously. Urlacher is the name I've seen thrown about simply because he was taller than your average LB and a pretty explosive athlete for his size. He didn't look terrible playing off the LOS this year but it's still a massive projection inside. I hope the Falcons take him!
Kirby Jackson Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 As an ILB, he's honestly not a million miles away from a guy like Brian Urlacher athletically. The comparisons are few and far between at MLB/WLB, obviously. Urlacher is the name I've seen thrown about simply because he was taller than your average LB and a pretty explosive athlete for his size. He didn't look terrible playing off the LOS this year but it's still a massive projection inside. I hope the Falcons take him! Didn't Urlacher return punts in college? He was a crazy athlete.
Blokestradamus Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Didn't Urlacher return punts in college? He was a crazy athlete. Averaged 15.8 yards per return on punts in his senior year. Had 7 catches as a WR too, 6 of them for touchdowns. This man was 6'4", 258 pounds at the Combine in 2000. That's incredible.
Kirby Jackson Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) Averaged 15.8 yards per return on punts in his senior year. Had 7 catches as a WR too, 6 of them for touchdowns. This man was 6'4", 258 pounds at the Combine in 2000. That's incredible. That's crazy Edited April 25, 2016 by Kirby Jackson
26CornerBlitz Posted April 25, 2016 Author Posted April 25, 2016 Mayock's top 100 Mike Mayock unleashes his top 100 prospect rankings for the 2016 NFL Draft, a list that is led off with a quarterback expected to be selected with one of the top two picks. 1. Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State 2. Jalen Ramsey, CB, Florida State 3. Laremy Tunsil, OT, Ole Miss 4. Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame 5. Myles Jack, LB, UCLA 6. Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State 7. DeForest Buckner, DE, Oregon 8. Joey Bosa, DE, Ohio State 9. Vernon Hargreaves, CB, Florida 10. Jared Goff, QB, Cal 11. Leonard Floyd, LB, Georgia 12. Sheldon Rankins, DT, Louisville 13. Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson 14. Jack Conklin, OT, Michigan State 15. Ryan Kelly, C, Alabama 16. William Jackson III, CB, Houston 17. A'Shawn Robinson, DT, Alabama 18. Taylor Decker, OT, Ohio State 19. Karl Joseph, S, West Virginia 20. Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis
26CornerBlitz Posted April 25, 2016 Author Posted April 25, 2016 Gil Brandt's Hot 100 + 40: Tunsil tops ratingsGil Brandt goes 140 players deep in his prospect rankings for the 2016 NFL Draft, a list topped with a player who could be a high-level talent in the NFL for many years. This is the 56th year that I have done rankings of NFL draft prospects. In the early years, from 1960-66, we put together a pre-fall rankings because from 1960 until the first common draft in 1967, the draft took place on the first Monday after Thanksgiving Day (for example, the 1966 draft took place on Nov. 27, 1965). In those days, we had about one percent of the information on prospects that we have today. Back then, there were not a lot of confirmed heights, weights and speed times that we have access to today. Prior to 1960, interest in the draft was almost nonexistent. At the 1964 draft, which was held on Dec. 2, 1963, we had less than 10 media personnel attend. This year, according to Greg Aiello of NFL PR, the league will issue around 1,700 credentials to media from around the world. Here are my Hot 100 prospects for the 2016 NFL Draft.
26CornerBlitz Posted April 25, 2016 Author Posted April 25, 2016 @McShay13 Most over/underrated. Biggest risers/fallers. Best athletes lb-for-lb. And dissecting specific traits by position. http://es.pn/1SHSibP Most underrated 1. Jerell Adams, TE, South Carolina 2. Adam Gotsis, DE, Georgia Tech 3. Justin Simmons, S, Boston College Most overrated 1. Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis 2. Noah Spence, OLB, Eastern Kentucky 3. A'Shawn Robinson, DT, Alabama Biggest risers 1. Leonard Floyd, OLB, Georgia 2. Artie Burns, CB, Miami (FL) 3. Nick Martin, C, Notre Dame 4. Alex Lewis, OT, Nebraska Biggest fallers 1. Vernon Hargreaves III, CB, Florida 2. Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson 3. Maliek Collins, DT, Nebraska
26CornerBlitz Posted April 25, 2016 Author Posted April 25, 2016 @JohnMurphyShow MMQB and SI analyst @Andy_Benoit says the #Bills should draft the best front-7 defender available. He joins us tonight 810pm
26CornerBlitz Posted April 25, 2016 Author Posted April 25, 2016 @JoshNorris My latest prospect rankings: http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/61681/325/draft-rankings-big-board-60 Rec TE prospect not receiving enough love sits at 64. Top 32: 4-25: ROTOWORLD'S JOSH NORRIS TALKS 2016 DRAFT ON WGR (14:33)
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