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19. Bills:

McClain: Kevin Dodd, DE, Clemson (pictured)
Wilson: Robert Nkdemiche, DL, Mississippi

 

 

That's pretty much exactly what I want the Bills to do...I'm a big fan of Dodd at #19...And I'll take Nkdemiche, Jones, or Butler at #49...That's my dream scenario... B-)

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2016 NFL Draft Prospect Visits Tracker updated - http://walterfootball.com/ProspectMeetings/ByTeam

By Walter Cherepinsky - @walterfootball
Updated: April 10, 2016

This is a compilation of draft prospect visits sorted by prospect. The data was acquired via Charlie Campbell (@draftcampbell) and other media sources.

SR - Senior Bowl meeting.
EW - East-West Shrine meeting.
COM - Combine meeting.
INT - Interested.
VINT - Very Interested.
PRO - Pro Day or campus meeting/workout.
LOC - Local visit. Prospect making a local visit.
PRI - Private visit. Prospect making an official 30 visit.
WOR - Private Workout. Members of an organization working out a player in private.
STM - Some Type of Meeting.
% - indicates more than one meeting at an event.
^ - has met with team at more than one event.
# - indicates meeting set up outside of the 2016 Senior Bowl or the 2016 East-West Shrine Game
Buffalo Bills
Roberto Aguayo, K, Florida State (COM)
Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson (COM)
Eli Apple, CB, Ohio State (PRI)
Vonn Bell, S, Ohio State (PRI)
Moritz Wilhelm Boehringer, WR, Germany (PRO)
Vernon Butler, DT/NT, Louisiana Tech (PRI)
Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State (PRI)
Su'a Cravens^, OLB, USC (COM, PRI, STM)
Sean Davis, FS/CB, Maryland (STM)
Taylor Decker, OT, Ohio State (PRI)
Josh Doctson, WR, TCU (COM)
Kevin Dodd, DE, Clemson (COM)
Jared Goff, QB, California (COM)
B.J. Goodson, ILB, Clemson (COM)
T.J. Green, S, Clemson (COM)
Christian Hackenberg^, QB, Penn State (COM, PRO)
Tyler Higbee, TE, Western Kentucky (COM)
Kevin Hogan, QB, Stanford (COM)
Cardale Jones^, QB, Ohio State (WOR, PRI)
Cyrus Jones, CB, Alabama (PRI)
Bronson Kaufusi, DE/3-4DE, Brigham Young (STM)
Jayron Kearse, S, Clemson (COM)
Shaq Lawson, DE/3-4OLB, Clemson (COM)
Darron Lee, OLB, Ohio State (PRI)
Paxton Lynch^, QB, Memphis (COM, PRO)
Antonio Morrison, ILB/OLB, Florida (PRI)
Yannick Ngakoue, OLB/DE/3-4OLB, Maryland (PRO)
Emmanuel Ogbah^, DE/3-4DE, Oklahoma State (COM, PRI)
Charone Peake, WR, Clemson (COM)
Dak Prescott^, QB, Mississippi State (COM, PRI, STM)
Reggie Ragland^, ILB, Alabama (WOR, PRI)
Jalen Ramsey, CB/S, Florida State (COM)
Sheldon Rankins, DT, Louisville (PRI)
D.J. Reader, DT, Clemson (COM)
Rashawn Scott, WR, Miami (EW)
Noah Spence, OLB/DE/3-4OLB, Eastern Kentucky (COM)
Charles Tapper, DE/3-4DE, Oklahoma (COM)
Adolphus Washington, DT/3-4DE, Ohio State (PRI)
Anthony Zettel, DE/DT, Penn State (EW)

 

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I still like Connor Cook as the best QB prospect in this draft, and a year ago he was the popular pick. He is a D-bag, but then so was Jim Kelly. I would be happy if the Bills selected him at any point in the draft (1-7). He makes mistakes, but he looks more like a pro when he throws the ball than any other prospect in this draft, that I have seen.

 

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I still like Connor Cook as the best QB prospect in this draft, and a year ago he was the popular pick. He is a D-bag, but then so was Jim Kelly. I would be happy if the Bills selected him at any point in the draft (1-7). He makes mistakes, but he looks more like a pro when he throws the ball than any other prospect in this draft, that I have seen.

 

 

love watching that, those throws are money

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVsUtip_0bE

Connor Cook 2014 highlights

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I still like Connor Cook as the best QB prospect in this draft, and a year ago he was the popular pick. He is a D-bag, but then so was Jim Kelly. I would be happy if the Bills selected him at any point in the draft (1-7). He makes mistakes, but he looks more like a pro when he throws the ball than any other prospect in this draft, that I have seen.

 

It doesnt bother you that this guy was not a captain of his own college team?

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It doesnt bother you that this guy was not a captain of his own college team?

 

you probably didn't see my responses to this in other threads, but no.

 

It wasn't a big deal to his teammates and had no bearing on his play.

 

 

"Cook, one of the top quarterbacks in the NFL draft, led the Spartans to a College Football Playoff semifinal appearance but wasn’t even elected by teammates as a captain last season.

 

“It’s a little bit of an overkill, at this point,” Conklin said Wednesday about the leadership questions dogging Cook during the NFL scouting combine. “Connor is a leader on our team, no doubt. I think, if you talk to anybody on our team, you’ll get the same answer.”

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/draft/2016/02/24/connor-cook-jack-conklin-scouting-combine/80876130/

http://www.si.com/college-football/video/2015/12/28/connor-cook-leadership-should-not-be-in-question#

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It doesnt bother you that this guy was not a captain of his own college team?

 

Nope. Stuff like that gets blown out of proportion all the time these days, with every aspect being over-scrutinized. I don't believe that it's necessary for everyone to like you, to be a successful QB, either. Jim Kelly rubbed some teammates wrong.

 

 

In some instances, it can be an asset (if the player can excel), because you aren't expected to be "friends", and are free to exercise your authority (recall Spiller's comments about EJM).

 

I doubt Peyton Manning was beloved by all his teammates, and appeared to be considered (and consider himself) part of "management", rather than "one of the workers". Some guys would get excited if Peyton remembered their name, or even spoke to them. Dan Marino sure seemed separate from the team. Tom Brady...

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By Dane Brugler | NFLDraftScout.com Senior Analyst
With Mark Sanchez currently penciled in as the starter, the Broncos continue to examine every scenario at the quarterback position, including possibly drafting a passer like Michigan State's Connor Cook in the first round.
BUF.png19. Buffalo Bills

A'Shawn Robinson, DT, Alabama: With Kyle Williams coming off meniscus surgery and about to turn 33 years old, the Bills need to find his successor. Along with Marcel Dareus, Robinson would give Buffalo an all-Alabama defensive interior.

By Rob Rang | The Sports Xchange/CBSSports.com

 

The Texans addressed the offense during free agency with Brock Osweiler and Lamar Miller but reinforcing the defense will be the priority in the draft.

 

BUF.png19. Buffalo Bills

Robert Nkemdiche, DE, Mississippi: The Bills probably should be looking for help on offense with this pick but as long as Rex Ryan has a say, the defensive line will get plenty of attention. Powerful and used to double-teams, Nkemdiche has the size and strength to be the defensive end Ryan had hoped Mario Williams would be. He's also quite athletic, boasting perhaps the most exciting raw talent as any defensive lineman in this draft. Ryan has never been one to shy from talent, even if it comes with red flags, as Nkemdiche does.

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Fairburn's latest Mock Draft:

 

@billsupdates

#Bills 7-round 2016 NFL Mock Draft version 3.0 http://ow.ly/10xD8M

19. Sheldon Rankins DT, Louisville

49. Josh Perry OLB, OSU

80. Cardale Jones QB, OSU

117. Yannick Ngakoue LB, Maryland

139. Joe Haeg OT, NDS

156. Dean Lowry DL, Northwestern

192. Jayron Kearse S, Clemson

218. Antonio Morrison LB, Florida

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you probably didn't see my responses to this in other threads, but no.

 

It wasn't a big deal to his teammates and had no bearing on his play.

 

 

"Cook, one of the top quarterbacks in the NFL draft, led the Spartans to a College Football Playoff semifinal appearance but wasn’t even elected by teammates as a captain last season.

 

“It’s a little bit of an overkill, at this point,” Conklin said Wednesday about the leadership questions dogging Cook during the NFL scouting combine. “Connor is a leader on our team, no doubt. I think, if you talk to anybody on our team, you’ll get the same answer.”

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/draft/2016/02/24/connor-cook-jack-conklin-scouting-combine/80876130/

http://www.si.com/college-football/video/2015/12/28/connor-cook-leadership-should-not-be-in-question#

 

With all due respect...And I'm sure this has been discussed before...But still...

 

I see your signature for Cook with a trade down in the 1st...Advocating for taking a QB in the 1st round of the NFL Draft with a completion percentage under 60% in every single year as a starter (he never hit 59% either) is a risk I don't think any NFL team will be willing to make in the day and age of advanced analytics...There is no way any NFL team should consider Conner Cook in the 1st Round...And that does not mean he can't buck the trend...What it does mean is this...The trend is so incredibly strong and backed up by actual, factual, analytics that a team who wishes to gamble on Cook being the one single guy who is going to shatter the trend (and if you're going to take him in the first you have to believe he is going to SHATTER the trend...That means being much better than the best recent guy coming out who had less than 60% in College...Kaepernick...who was a 2nd Rd pick btw...) is basically insane...

 

Remember...Even though Matt Stafford, Carson Palmer, and Jay Cutler had career College completion percentages under 60% (I'm not going to count Matt Ryan who's 71 attempts as a Freshman pushed him below the 60% career mark...Ryan finished at 59.9% career at BC...But over 61% as a Soph and a Jr...) ALL of them had at least one year as a Starter in College over 60%...And only Cutler did not hit over the 60% mark in his Sr year...He hit 61% as a Jr, and 59.74% for his Jr and Sr years combined...Cook NEVER hit 59%!!!...And the names we're talking about here in comparison with Cook...Kaepernick, Cutler, Stafford, Palmer...It's not like we're talking about Brady, Brees, Wilson...etc...Heck even Kirk Cousins went well over 60% (64.1%) at the same school...

 

I would take a shot at Cook in the 3rd or later...No sooner though...The odds are stacked against him based on his College numbers...just the chance of being better than the likes of Stafford, Palmer, and Cutler is a long shot... B-)

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Fair enough criticism, but none of those guys had the winning record that Cook had. I won't say W/L is "all that counts" or some such nonsense, but in this case, I think it indicates that he can get it done. And if you wanna bring up Tebow, Tebow doesn't have anywhere near the arm Cook has.

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With all due respect...And I'm sure this has been discussed before...But still...

 

I see your signature for Cook with a trade down in the 1st...Advocating for taking a QB in the 1st round of the NFL Draft with a completion percentage under 60% in every single year as a starter (he never hit 59% either) is a risk I don't think any NFL team will be willing to make in the day and age of advanced analytics...There is no way any NFL team should consider Conner Cook in the 1st Round...And that does not mean he can't buck the trend...What it does mean is this...The trend is so incredibly strong and backed up by actual, factual, analytics that a team who wishes to gamble on Cook being the one single guy who is going to shatter the trend (and if you're going to take him in the first you have to believe he is going to SHATTER the trend...That means being much better than the best recent guy coming out who had less than 60% in College...Kaepernick...who was a 2nd Rd pick btw...) is basically insane...

 

Remember...Even though Matt Stafford, Carson Palmer, and Jay Cutler had career College completion percentages under 60% (I'm not going to count Matt Ryan who's 71 attempts as a Freshman pushed him below the 60% career mark...Ryan finished at 59.9% career at BC...But over 61% as a Soph and a Jr...) ALL of them had at least one year as a Starter in College over 60%...And only Cutler did not hit over the 60% mark in his Sr year...He hit 61% as a Jr, and 59.74% for his Jr and Sr years combined...Cook NEVER hit 59%!!!...And the names we're talking about here in comparison with Cook...Kaepernick, Cutler, Stafford, Palmer...It's not like we're talking about Brady, Brees, Wilson...etc...Heck even Kirk Cousins went well over 60% (64.1%) at the same school...

 

I would take a shot at Cook in the 3rd or later...No sooner though...The odds are stacked against him based on his College numbers...just the chance of being better than the likes of Stafford, Palmer, and Cutler is a long shot... B-)

Good post and it really is a big concern.

 

Scouts definitely have a to weigh the other aspects of his game carefully. Now, despite his completion percentage, there are many reasons scouts are still projecting him as a late-first/early-second round pick.

 

While you consider college completion percentage for successful NFL QBs, consider it for unsuccessful QBs as well. I think you'll see a similar trend, because either way, you need to be good to be drafted. How many first round picks with a great comp % ultimately bust in the NFL? The answer is a lot.

 

Maybe I'm wrong. And I'm not saying the stat doesn't matter, but you need to look at it on an individual basis. Obviously, scouts are seeing attributes that keep Cook in the discussion.

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1-2-3 GO! Burning draft question for each AFC team
Will the Titans take Laremy Tunsil first? Can the Browns pass on Carson Wentz at No. 2? Will Jalen Ramsey be the first defender off the board at 3? Elliot Harrison poses AFC draft questions.

 

AFC EAST

Buffalo Bills: Can the defense meet expectations in 2016?

 

Rex Ryan hired his brother, Rob, to help out on defense. Get excited. This is still Rex's baby, no matter how you look at it. Dennis Thurman remains the nominal defensive coordinator, but we know who's running the show. (It was the same deal with Mike Pettine back in Rex's Jet days.) Still, there is simply no getting around the fact that this side of the ball played much worse in 2015 than the Bills group led by Jim Schwartz in 2014. Sacks were down. Points were up. Honestly, this team would've finished below .500 if not for the improvement on offense. Mario Williams, a malcontent under Ryan last season, is gone. So is getting a pass rusher in the draft the answer? Sure, but how about more push from the inside? Kyle Williams has been brilliant over his career, but he's no spring daisy. Getting a rotation player who can be a force inside sounds like the right move at No. 19. If there is one thing quarterbacks hate -- especially Tom Brady -- it's pressure up the middle.

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Fair enough criticism, but none of those guys had the winning record that Cook had. I won't say W/L is "all that counts" or some such nonsense, but in this case, I think it indicates that he can get it done. And if you wanna bring up Tebow, Tebow doesn't have anywhere near the arm Cook has.

 

Michigan St had some pretty good Defenses during his years there...Ranked 3rd overall in 2013, 22nd in 2014, and 26th last year...

 

Had to have something to do with the Win/Loss deal...

 

I'm not against Cook either...I am however dead set against him in the 1st two rounds... B-)

Good post and it really is a big concern.

 

Scouts definitely have a to weigh the other aspects of his game carefully. Now, despite his completion percentage, there are many reasons scouts are still projecting him as a late-first/early-second round pick.

 

While you consider college completion percentage for successful NFL QBs, consider it for unsuccessful QBs as well. I think you'll see a similar trend, because either way, you need to be good to be drafted. How many first round picks with a great comp % ultimately bust in the NFL? The answer is a lot.

 

Maybe I'm wrong. And I'm not saying the stat doesn't matter, but you need to look at it on an individual basis. Obviously, scouts are seeing attributes that keep Cook in the discussion.

 

It only takes one team...That's for sure!

 

And I imagine plenty of teams like Cook...

 

But my argument here is based on the 1st two rounds...And I just feel that taking him that early, based on some really strong analytics, is a major risk... B-)

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