plenzmd1 Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 Harvin wasn't a FA. He was cut. Spiller was also a UFA who was signed by another team. That's right, edited my post above to include Taylor and take off Harvin. I don't either...but you know damned well that if we were the Patriots, we would be. Too true!
JoeF Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 (edited) Bills are still due a comp pick... Lost Dean, Spiller, Searcy, Smith, Pears (Hairston was a non-tendered RFA I believe) Signed Clay, Felton, Carrington, Taylor (Harvin was cut, Cassell and Shady via trade) There was probably competing interest in Carrington -- likely from Pettine. That's the reason for signing him now. Edited May 4, 2015 by Formerly Joe F
NoSaint Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 So free agent signings by The Bills if I recall correctly Clay Felton Carington Taylor UFA signed by other teams Spiller Searcy Am I missing anybody else? I ask as I just can not see any scenario where we are eligible for a comp pick. As clay was restricted (transition tag), does he count?
YoloinOhio Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 As clay was restricted (transition tag), does he count? Good question - I know the Fish do not receive a comp pick for losing him as part of the transition tag
NoSaint Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 (edited) Good question - I know the Fish do not receive a comp pick for losing him as part of the transition tagBut they had the option to keep him.... Untendered rfas don't count as a loss, for instance, if I'm recalling correct. I believe the philosophy at the core isn't compensation but uncontrolled loss? And any restriction on a guy mitigates that - if that makes sense. Same concept that a cut doesn't count because the team opted not to keep him despite having rights to do so, comp picks instead comes from the player opting to leave and the team having no recourse (ie UFAs) Edited May 4, 2015 by NoSaint
JoeF Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 (edited) Clay was not restricted he was transition tagged...he was an UFA with a tag. He counts in the Comp Pick calculation.. By the way love having the MEGAHAND back...a healthy Carrington is an upgrade in the Bills depth which was already pretty damn good. Now get Spikes back please..... Edited May 4, 2015 by Formerly Joe F
PS 56 Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 Totally thrilled with this signing. I LOVE that he wants to come back to the Bills.... Hated to see him go the previous year.
NoSaint Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 Clay was not restricted he was transition tagged...he was an UFA with a tag. He counts in the Comp Pick calculation.. By the way love having the MEGAHAND back...a healthy Carrington is an upgrade in the Bills depth which was already pretty damn good. Now get Spikes back please..... He clearly wasn't a pure UFA as he was not totally unrestricted. His previous team could restrict his free agency options. Clearly you saw clay wasn't in the unrestricted feeding frenzy he might've been without the tag, and even so the Dolphins could hold his rights if they chose.
Storm Front Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 Carrington was a pretty bad 3rd round pick. He and Sheppard just never blossomed the way a lot of folks hoped.
kelsay2sackseason Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 carrington was not a bad 3rd rd pick. not every pick has to be an all pro. hes solid, and has moments of being very hard to deal with pass rush wise. i dont get some of you fans
John from Riverside Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 Carrington was a pretty bad 3rd round pick. He and Sheppard just never blossomed the way a lot of folks hoped. Yes because every player regardless of where they are picked should be a all pro player.....or DOOMED Sometimes you just need players to do their jobs
Dorkington Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 Carrington provides pretty solid depth, which we might not get out of a late round draft pick... so I'm ok with potentially losing a compensatory pick.
YoloinOhio Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 Yes because every player regardless of where they are picked should be a all pro player.....or DOOMED Sometimes you just need players to do their jobs True. Maybe if he was here last year when Marcel got hurt in the Raider game he could have helped to stop the run. Role players are important.
YoloinOhio Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 On cue... Mike Rodak @mikerodak 5m5 minutes ago http://OverTheCap.com now projects the Bills to receive just one compensatory draft pick in 2016: http://overthecap.com/compensatory-draft-picks-cancellation-chart/ … Buffalo Bills @buffalobills 6m6 minutes ago Welcome back to the Bills, Alex Carrington! The Bills have signed the DL: http://bufbills.co/1REOO1
johnwalter Posted May 4, 2015 Author Posted May 4, 2015 On cue... Mike Rodak @mikerodak 5m5 minutes ago http://OverTheCap.com now projects the Bills to receive just one compensatory draft pick in 2016: http://overthecap.com/compensatory-draft-picks-cancellation-chart/ … ha! nice call, yolo.
Big Turk Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 Thought Carrington made a lot of plays on D when he got in there and he was MegaHand on specials teams with the blocked field goals
TPS Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 Carrington was a pretty bad 3rd round pick. He and Sheppard just never blossomed the way a lot of folks hoped. Actually, he was improving every year, and it seemed like he was going to have a breakout year (at least for him) when he got injured in 2013.
NoSaint Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 and that settles that transition tags seem to be unique -- in that they use hutchinson and the poison pill example. im pretty surprised, but they had a few nice examples of actual players to work through some of the quirks.
Pete Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 welcome back megahand! Great signing who will be very valuable. He will play a lot of snaps On a sidenote- we had stellar special teams last year with Easley. Boobie, Corey. We lost Larry Dean, but added megahand, Darby, Steward, Karlos....Our special teams will rock next year!
Malazan Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 Carrington was a pretty bad 3rd round pick. He and Sheppard just never blossomed the way a lot of folks hoped. You have awfully high standards for a 3rd round pick. Sheppard looks pretty good since he changed his jersey name to Hughes and started playing DE.
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