Chuck Wagon Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk And now perhaps we know why the Falcons and Browns got a slap on the wrist. Sets a recent precedent for the Patriots. If the GM gets a 4 game suspension for sending some texts, what does the QB get for ordering balls to be doctored?
The Wiz Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 @JeremyWGR: Boston radio claiming that some scientists disagree with the findings. Like that one out of five dentists that DOESNT like Trident. Jeremy is on fire right now. He must be loving this. I know I am.
Wayne Cubed Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk And now perhaps we know why the Falcons and Browns got a slap on the wrist. Sets a recent precedent for the Patriots. But how can they possibly give Brady a slap on the wrist? The Pats** themselves, sure. Brady? I think people would have a major problem with that. He lied and didn't co-operate.
Rubes Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 @JeremyWGR: The Patriots are blaming the science. Thats usually a good thing to do, if youre a crazy person. Yes Pats, fight science. That has to be the tweet of the day right there.
Best Player Available Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 Montana's untarnished achivements remain intact and arguably the best qb of the superbowl era.How? he never cheated. Tom brady* not so much. This finding and report if true should end any debate. Of course one must add in the Other cheating by the pats* in previous superbowl seasons. as for Robert Kraft? Enjoy The blowback A- Hole!
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 Chucked under the bus IMO. I'm sure they had knowledge but turned a blind eye to it. I thought Goodell concluded that ignorance is not an excuse with New Orleans though...
Lurker Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 So, does Brady get suspended for at least the first two games...
The Wiz Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 If the GM gets a 4 game suspension for sending some texts, what does the QB get for ordering balls to be doctored? Reminds me of office space where the two get sent to a federal "pound you in the ass" prison and peter gets a scolding.
IDBillzFan Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 If the GM gets a 4 game suspension for sending some texts, what does the QB get for ordering balls to be doctored? One year suspension. At least.
The Wiz Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 I thought Goodell concluded that ignorance is not an excuse with New Orleans though... True. I'm not sure how you would be able to prove that the coaches knew about this though if it was between him and the other two. Bountygate was basically a team philosophy.
Bills of Boston Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) I'd love Brady to be suspended 1 game (lose to Pitt) and then have his season opener @ the 1-0 Bills... probably wouldn't get too loud in there. Edited May 6, 2015 by Bills of Boston
May Day 10 Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 Statement from Robert Kraft:“When I addressed the media at the Super Bowl on January 26 – over 14 weeks ago – I stated that I unconditionally believed that the New England Patriots had done nothing inappropriate in this process or in violation of the NFL rules and that I was disappointed in the way the league handled the initial investigation. That sentiment has not changed.“I was convinced that Ted Wells’ investigation would find the same factual evidence supported by both scientific formula and independent research as we did and would ultimately exonerate the Patriots. Based on the explanations I have heard and the studies that have been done, I don’t know how the science of atmospheric conditions can be refuted or how conclusions to the contrary can be drawn without some definitive evidence.“What is not highlighted in the text of the report is that three of the Colts’ four footballs measured by at least one official were under the required psi level. As far as we are aware, there is no comparable data available from any other game because, in the history of the NFL, psi levels of footballs have never been measured at halftime, in any climate. If they had been, based on what we now know, it is safe to assume that every cold-weather game was played with under inflated footballs. As compelling a case as the Wells Report may try to make, I am going to rely on the factual evidence of numerous scientists and engineers rather than inferences from circumstantial evidence.“Throughout the process of this nearly four-month investigation, we have cooperated and patiently awaited its outcome. To say we are disappointed in its findings, which do not include any incontrovertible or hard evidence of deliberate deflation of footballs at the AFC Championship game, would be a gross understatement. In addition, given our level of cooperation throughout the process, I was offended by the comments made in the Wells Report in reference to not making an individual available for a follow-up interview. What the report fails to mention is that he had already been interviewed four times and we felt the fifth request for access was excessive for a part-time game day employee who has a full-time job with another employer.“While I respect the independent process of the investigation, the time, effort and resources expended to reach this conclusion are incomprehensible to me. Knowing that there is no real recourse available, fighting the league and extending this debate would prove to be futile. We understand and greatly respect the responsibility of being one of 32 in this league and, on that basis, we will accept the findings of the report and take the appropriate actions based on those findings as well as any discipline levied by the league.”
Lurker Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 I'd love Brady to be suspended 1 game (lose to Pitt) and then have his season opener @ the 1-0 Bills... probably wouldn't get too loud in there. Under that scenario...it's a good thing they upgraded the structural / foundation work with the recent rehab. That would be an unreal environment...
sodbuster Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 SportsBook has closed the line on the NFL season opener, along with the AFCE and all other Pats games. Uh oh.
YoloinOhio Posted May 6, 2015 Author Posted May 6, 2015 @Deadspin: Wells Report: Tom Brady was aware of deflated balls, tried to calm equipment assistant after scandal broke. http://t.co/OyJ6O7eh0n
IronyAbounds Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 Robert Kraft is a despicable human being, the Patriots are habitual cheaters, and Tom Brady is POS. Those are the conclusions that should be drawn from this whole thing.
YoloinOhio Posted May 6, 2015 Author Posted May 6, 2015 @AlbertBreer: New info in here on a 2004 incident as well, where the Patriots were accused of bringing unapproved practice balls into games.
sodbuster Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 @AlbertBreer: New info in here on a 2004 incident as well, where the Patriots were accused of bringing unapproved practice balls into games.This is the gift that keeps on giving.
Best Player Available Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) Statement from Robert Kraft:When I addressed the media at the Super Bowl on January 26 over 14 weeks ago I stated that I unconditionally believed that the New England Patriots had done nothing inappropriate in this process or in violation of the NFL rules and that I was disappointed in the way the league handled the initial investigation. That sentiment has not changed. I was convinced that Ted Wells investigation would find the same factual evidence supported by both scientific formula and independent research as we did and would ultimately exonerate the Patriots. Based on the explanations I have heard and the studies that have been done, I dont know how the science of atmospheric conditions can be refuted or how conclusions to the contrary can be drawn without some definitive evidence. What is not highlighted in the text of the report is that three of the Colts four footballs measured by at least one official were under the required psi level. As far as we are aware, there is no comparable data available from any other game because, in the history of the NFL, psi levels of footballs have never been measured at halftime, in any climate. If they had been, based on what we now know, it is safe to assume that every cold-weather game was played with under inflated footballs. As compelling a case as the Wells Report may try to make, I am going to rely on the factual evidence of numerous scientists and engineers rather than inferences from circumstantial evidence. Throughout the process of this nearly four-month investigation, we have cooperated and patiently awaited its outcome. To say we are disappointed in its findings, which do not include any incontrovertible or hard evidence of deliberate deflation of footballs at the AFC Championship game, would be a gross understatement. In addition, given our level of cooperation throughout the process, I was offended by the comments made in the Wells Report in reference to not making an individual available for a follow-up interview. What the report fails to mention is that he had already been interviewed four times and we felt the fifth request for access was excessive for a part-time game day employee who has a full-time job with another employer. While I respect the independent process of the investigation, the time, effort and resources expended to reach this conclusion are incomprehensible to me. Knowing that there is no real recourse available, fighting the league and extending this debate would prove to be futile. We understand and greatly respect the responsibility of being one of 32 in this league and, on that basis, we will accept the findings of the report and take the appropriate actions based on those findings as well as any discipline levied by the league. Cliff notes version of Krafts babble: Weve been caught with our pants down, cannot find a way out so we accept our outcome and punishment. My lawyers have already stated this is undisputable. Edited May 6, 2015 by Best Player Available
The Wiz Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 So cheating, lying, bribing and uncooperative are all new Tom Brady vocabulary we can use.
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