1billsfan Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 Dumb post of the month... Optics matter, unless you think Rex's tough talk is nothing but fake pro wrestling stuff. Sorry, but you can't have it both ways. If Rex wants to say that the "bully" talk was all just him blabbering then at least we it's all good to hang like best bros with the arch enemy of your team who has taken your lunch money for over a decade.
Kirby Jackson Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 Optics matter, unless you think Rex's tough talk is nothing but fake pro wrestling stuff. Sorry, but you can't have it both ways. If Rex wants to say that the "bully" talk was all just him blabbering then at least we it's all good to hang like best bros with the arch enemy of your team who has taken your lunch money for over a decade. Ha ha, he doesn't mean you punch your friends in the face. Their kids probably play together!! This isn't a war. These guys work together, compete against one another and then go home and spend time with their families. Believe it or not they are no different from other working people.
Thrivefourfive Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 Everyone in that picture is welcome to the pills.
1billsfan Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 Are you serious or is this sarcasm? Ha ha, if you are serious I don't know what to say. These guys are friends with people all over the league!! They work out together, played together, etc... Have you ever hung out with people that you used to work with??? I do all of the time. Yes I'm serious. Let me ask you a question, do you think that Rex's "build a bully" talk was bs? The Bills have been doormats for a long time, Rex isn't playing.
jimmy10 Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 Ha ha, he doesn't mean you punch your friends in the face. Their kids probably play together!! This isn't a war. These guys work together, compete against one another and then go home and spend time with their families. Believe it or not they are no different from other working people. Not to mention they all belong to the same union.
1billsfan Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) Ha ha, he doesn't mean you punch your friends in the face. Their kids probably play together!! This isn't a war. These guys work together, compete against one another and then go home and spend time with their families. Believe it or not they are no different from other working people. Rex wants the Patriots to fear playing the Bills. That's what he means. Kind of like how they feared playing the Giants. This photo doesn't help with that image, sorry. You can make light of it all you want, but the optics are killer for Cassel here. Edited May 1, 2015 by 1billsfan
Kirby Jackson Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 Yes I'm serious. Let me ask you a question, do you think that Rex's "build a bully" talk was bs? The Bills have been doormats for a long time, Rex isn't playing. Building a bully means to be physical on the field. They want to win at the LOS. It has ZERO to do with who your friends are off the field. It is mind blowing to me that people are worked up about this. Since he is friends with Brady he now wants to lose? He wants to play his way out of a contract that pays him $5m a year (or whatever)? "If I play poorly enough against the Patriots maybe next year I can not get a big FA contract." I'm not picking on you specifically but this picture could not mean less. Guys hang out with college teammates, high school teammates and former pro teammates all of the time. We all hang out with people that we went to school with, played sports with or worked with. As I said, their kids probably play together.
NoSaint Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 Rex wants the Patriots to fear playing the Bills. That's what he means. Kind of like how they feared playing the Giants. This photo doesn't help with that image, sorry. You can make light of it all you want, but the optics are killer for Cassel here. Have you experienced a head injury recently? The optics say it's very possible.
Kirby Jackson Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 Rex wants the Patriots to fear playing the Bills. That's what he means. Kind of like how they feared playing the Giants. This photo doesn't help with that image, sorry. You can make light of it all you want, but the optics are killer for Cassel here. If he was seen handing them his playbook fine. As I said earlier Chris Paul and Tony Parker stay at each other's homes when they are in town to play. They battle out there but when the game ends it ends.
jimmy10 Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 Have you experienced a head injury recently? The optics say it's very possible. Is anybody else scratching their head trying to figure out what lenses and laser beams have to do with Matt Cassel?
1billsfan Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 Building a bully means to be physical on the field. They want to win at the LOS. It has ZERO to do with who your friends are off the field. It is mind blowing to me that people are worked up about this. Since he is friends with Brady he now wants to lose? He wants to play his way out of a contract that pays him $5m a year (or whatever)? "If I play poorly enough against the Patriots maybe next year I can not get a big FA contract." I'm not picking on you specifically but this picture could not mean less. Guys hang out with college teammates, high school teammates and former pro teammates all of the time. We all hang out with people that we went to school with, played sports with or worked with. As I said, their kids probably play together. Building a bully means an attitude that we play so hard that we might hurt you. So now Tom Brady is just some random "guy"? There's no reference needed of what this QB represents to the Buffalo Bills franchise over the last 14 years?
Kirby Jackson Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 Building a bully means an attitude that we play so hard that we might hurt you. So now Tom Brady is just some random "guy"? There's no reference needed of what this QB represents to the Buffalo Bills franchise over the last 14 years? It doesn't matter who it is. It's a guy that he sat in meeting rooms with for years. Being his friend is irrelevant. FWIW, I'm positive that he views Tom Brady as just a guy that he knows well. Chase Daniel and Drew Brees were attached at the hip when they were here and competitive as could be. If you think that Cassel is a bad QB that's fine. If you think that he is a bad QB because he is friends with his old teammates that just doesn't make sense.
1billsfan Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 It doesn't matter who it is. It's a guy that he sat in meeting rooms with for years. Being his friend is irrelevant. FWIW, I'm positive that he views Tom Brady as just a guy that he knows well. Chase Daniel and Drew Brees were attached at the hip when they were here and competitive as could be. If you think that Cassel is a bad QB that's fine. If you think that he is a bad QB because he is friends with his old teammates that just doesn't make sense. That's fine that he views him that way. But have some perspective on the 14 years worth of the Bills being beaten down by the Patriots. I think Cassel is a back up QB who's content with that role. I've thought of him that way when the Bills signed him as a free agent. I think that posing for this photo wasn't very smart on his part. Yes he has a nice "bro" photo to hang on his wall, but I think it hurts his credibility of wanting to become the Bills' "point of the spear" vs the Patriots.
Kirby Jackson Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 (edited) That's fine that he views him that way. But have some perspective on the 14 years worth of the Bills being beaten down by the Patriots. I think Cassel is a back up QB who's content with that role. I've thought of him that way when the Bills signed him as a free agent. I think that posing for this photo wasn't very smart on his part. Yes he has a nice "bro" photo to hang on his wall, but I think it hurts his credibility of wanting to become the Bills' "point of the spear" vs the Patriots. No, it doesn't. He took a picture with his friend. That doesn't mean that he is a loser or content to lose to New England. It doesn't mean any of the things that you want it to mean. It is nothing more than a bunch of buddies (who were teammates) going to the derby. It has nothing to do with the last 14 years or any of that. The 2015 Bills will play the 2015 Patriots and each team will do their best to win. It couldn't be simpler. If you think Cassel stinks that's fine. This photo doesn't have anything to do with that though. Edited May 2, 2015 by Kirby Jackson
1billsfan Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 No, it doesn't. He took a picture with his friend. That doesn't mean that he is a loser or content to lose to New England. It doesn't mean any of the things that you want it to mean. It is nothing more than a bunch of buddies (who were teammates) going to the derby. It has nothing to do with the last 14 years or any of that. The 2015 Bills will play the 2015 Patriots and each team will do their best to win. It couldn't be simpler. If you think Cassel stinks that's fine. This photo doesn't have anything to do with that though. I don't think he stinks, I just think his time on the starting stage was over 5 years ago. I also think that Rex is serious about changing the attitude and wants to intimidate Brady and the Pats. It's just my opinion that he hurt his chances of starting because if it's a very close decision, little things like this will swing the decision towards EJ Manuel.
Kirby Jackson Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 (edited) I don't think he stinks, I just think his time on the starting stage was over 5 years ago. I also think that Rex is serious about changing the attitude and wants to intimidate Brady and the Pats. It's just my opinion that he hurt his chances of starting because if it's a very close decision, little things like this will swing the decision towards EJ Manuel. Rex is going to play the best player period. He is not going to sit someone because he is friends with Brady. I have no idea who will play QB but I'm positive this photo doesn't play a role. It may be shocking to many that Bills and Pats are friends but it isn't a big deal at all inside of OBD. This is a normal situation and I can't express how common this is. Players go out after games with players from the opposing team if they are in town (happens a lot in baseball and basketball). They are often closer with guys on other teams than their own even. It isn't an issue. Cassel's play may be an issue but his friends won't be (unless he is friends with Aaron Hernandez). Edited May 2, 2015 by Kirby Jackson
1billsfan Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 Rex is going to play the best player period. He is not going to sit someone because he is friends with Brady. I have no idea who will play QB but I'm positive this photo doesn't play a role. It may be shocking to many that Bills and Pats are friends but it isn't a big deal at all inside of OBD. This is a normal situation and I can express how common this is. Players go out after games with players from the opposing team if they are in town (happens a lot in baseball and basketball). They are often closer with guys on other teams than their own even. It isn't an issue. Cassel's play may be an issue but his friends won't be (unless he is friends with Aaron Hernandez). That's all well and good, but we're talking about Tom Brady here. There's a history. A very long and painful history. The Buffalo Bills want to kick the door in on their face this year. You may not think this photo matters at all, I think it does matter to a certain degree be that even a small one. That is if the Bills truly want to start intimidating Tom Brady. That's what Rex wants to be about. He said so in his opening press conference. This photo kind of hurts Cassel in that respect. It's just my opinion. That's all. I hope that Cassel has an awakening and becomes the next Rich Gannon, I just don't see that happening.
Kirby Jackson Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 That's all well and good, but we're talking about Tom Brady here. There's a history. A very long and painful history. The Buffalo Bills want to kick the door in on their face this year. You may not think this photo matters at all, I think it does matter to a certain degree be that even a small one. That is if the Bills truly want to start intimidating Tom Brady. That's what Rex wants to be about. He said so in his opening press conference. This photo kind of hurts Cassel in that respect. It's just my opinion. That's all. I hope that Cassel has an awakening and becomes the next Rich Gannon, I just don't see that happening. It's a long and painful history to US. It isn't a major factor in the building. You want to beat everybody but they do not have the hate or disdain that we do. It is totally different. They are super competitive and want to go out and win. The fact that this is a big deal to people like us is unfathomable to the players. I promise that this is a non-issue at OBD. I promise. I don't think Cassel is particularly good. I don't think any of our QBs are particularly good. I am hoping that I am wrong. Our QB issues are far greater than who they are friends with.
NoSaint Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 That's all well and good, but we're talking about Tom Brady here. There's a history. A very long and painful history. The Buffalo Bills want to kick the door in on their face this year. You may not think this photo matters at all, I think it does matter to a certain degree be that even a small one. That is if the Bills truly want to start intimidating Tom Brady. That's what Rex wants to be about. He said so in his opening press conference. This photo kind of hurts Cassel in that respect. It's just my opinion. That's all. I hope that Cassel has an awakening and becomes the next Rich Gannon, I just don't see that happening. You might want to talk to someone about how you feel about Brady. Like a professional, not us. Generally though it just comes across as disliking cassell and trying to project that dislike anywhere you can.
1billsfan Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 You might want to talk to someone about how you feel about Brady. Like a professional, not us. Generally though it just comes across as disliking cassell and trying to project that dislike anywhere you can. I look at Tom Brady and I see Don Shula. Maybe you were to young to remember the decade long 0-20 Bills record vs the Dolphins, but I know I didn't feel all warm and fuzzy towards the man. I think Cassel's a guy who's coasting as a backup till the end of his career. I know many fans here want to think he still has the fire to lay it all out there, but I don't believe he does.
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